Sixth alt coin thread I forgot to mod last thread.

[tadeus1]

Gabryrox  go check your outlets vs breakers.
See how many breakers you got and on which sockets.
Easiest way switch off breaker and see which outlets stop.
Room breakers are usually 15a in USA. x120 volt = 1800 watts.
Safe is around 1500 watt constant usage. More you risk.
 So for example
3 breakers for 3 rooms. Sometimes two rooms can be on 1 breaker, etc.
Total max good use is 3 x1500. You get the idea.
And of course make sure there to account for any other devices on those breakers like TV, etc.

Appliances like fridge, washer drier usually have their own breakers.
Driers are 220v most 9f the time and have bigger output but you need electrician if you want to use the 220v.
Consider electrician if unsure to be safe.

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[arielbit]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

 I pull enough coin to pay the bills as fiat, the rest gets reinvested into more hardware to grow the farm.

 This might change at some point in 2018 as I'm starting to see the limits of my infrastructure - worst case I shut down the A2 farm to free up some additional power for the GPU side, though I've also been thinking about replacing the A2s with 841s or something.


 Anyone else notice that NVidia "good mining" cards seem to be in much worse shortage right now than AMD "good mining" cards?

 Even the 1080 ti is getting noticeably short - which did NOT happen during the big Spring mining surge.


 I have to wonder if NVidia is ramping down Pascal production in favor of ramping up Volta production so they have a "good supply of cards" on hand when Volta gets announced and goes on sale (possibly Feb, probably March timeframe, per a comment an EVGA employee dropped somewhere in their forums).

yeah I'm really getting impatient for volta, I want buy 12x 1080 ti's now and to replace my 8x 280x here and 4x 290x....but i'll wait

[kryss88]

Hi Guys,

Mining noob here. Looking to start my own farm this year. * Crosses fingers*

Was wondering how you guys deal with RMA or warranty for GPUS if you buy them off Amazon or Newegg. How long would it take to get an exchange?

Thanks.

[philipma1957]

Hi Guys,

Mining noob here. Looking to start my own farm this year. * Crosses fingers*

Was wondering how you guys deal with RMA or warranty for GPUS if you buy them off Amazon or Newegg. How long would it take to get an exchange?

Thanks.

10 to 50 days.

Evga is very very very good.

The slowest ram ever for me was a bio star z170 mobo

The best rma for a card was 8 days.

Cards don’t die if you don’t go 100 % tdp on nvidia .

At 70% they are reliable

[jimmykl]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

I'm by no means an expert, however, when I first hit 100% ROI, it was a proof of concept for me. It gave me the confidence to expand by a factor of seven. I would have preferred differently, but I cashed out $20k of crypto for that expansion.

It's a good feeling being 100% 'paid' and seeing $150 coming in every day. I always want more rigs though - that doesn't seem to abate.

I made ROI on my first rigs yesterday. It certainly does feels good!

So today to celebrate and kick off the new year I cashed out enough to buy a bunch of 1080 Tis

[QuintLeo]

I'm so annoyed I have literally ran out of space in my house. Mining is obviously going very, very strong currently and I can't see it ending any time soon (as opposed to 2014...). New paradigm?

Yeah... I'm at 5kw across two 16A breakers. I've had to ban the wife from using hair dryer / vacuum cleaner on certain outlets. We have a third 16A breaker purely for kitchen outlets (kettle, toaster, etc) that I could probably squeeze a 1kw rig onto. But short of that, we are pretty much maxed out.

My main CB is 63A but there is a lot going on behind that - 15A air conditioner, 5A oven etc. I'm not sure what else I can hook up without a serious meter box upgrade.

So, this has me very curious about how much rig wattage my house can take. I have 4 rx 470 rigs pulling between 700-900 watts each in 4 different rooms but i am building a Vega rig to double up in 1 room... it will only have 3 Vega 56's to start so not horribly worried about total wattage in that room, at least not yet.

The thing is, I have no idea about electricity capabilities... are there any general guidelines to go by?  My house is about 13 years old, 1700 SF, 2 story.  Like, how much wattage per outlet? per breaker? per house?  I probably need to hire an electrician for consulting as I would really like to add a 5x Vega and 6x 1070ti rig to my existing setup.  But, any general tips would be appreciated.

 As a general rule, if you look at your main breaker box, the BIG breaker at the top will be the "input" breaker and will tell you your total capacity for the house as a whole.

 Most common house outlets are 15 amp - but check which ones are on which circuits, most houses have MULTIPLE outlets per circuit on many of the circuits, and usually room lighting on the same circuit as one or more of the "in that room" outlets.
 I've seen a LOT of houses where the wiring had outlets in DIFFERENT rooms on the same circuit - the last one I lived in had one circuit that put outlets in 3 different rooms AND room lighting for one of those rooms, but that was an old house with some weird wiring and major issues anyway.

 Breakers are marked with their capacities, usually on the handle.

 DO NOT ASSUME 120 VOLTS.
 The actual "nominal" voltage in the US is 117 VAC, and it's common to see anywhere from 110 to 119 VAC - I've never actually SEEN a circuit deliver 120 VAC at the outlet, though my current place hits 119.3 or so intermittantly and seems to average right about 119.0

[QuintLeo]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

 I pull enough coin to pay the bills as fiat, the rest gets reinvested into more hardware to grow the farm.

 This might change at some point in 2018 as I'm starting to see the limits of my infrastructure - worst case I shut down the A2 farm to free up some additional power for the GPU side, though I've also been thinking about replacing the A2s with 841s or something.


 Anyone else notice that NVidia "good mining" cards seem to be in much worse shortage right now than AMD "good mining" cards?

 Even the 1080 ti is getting noticeably short - which did NOT happen during the big Spring mining surge.


 I have to wonder if NVidia is ramping down Pascal production in favor of ramping up Volta production so they have a "good supply of cards" on hand when Volta gets announced and goes on sale (possibly Feb, probably March timeframe, per a comment an EVGA employee dropped somewhere in their forums).

Interesting you mention Volta. Assuming you hit the power limits and Volta is out, will you replace older cards to sell the older cards or just add Volta cards and keep the “ROI cards” to further milk them?

 I'm not quite THAT close to power limits - be a while before I have to worry about that.

 I DO tentatively plan to replace older cards with upgraded ones at some point though - especially the cards that are "lower efficiency" NOW - but I've got 5800 watts or so of A2 ASIC that's getting kinda marginal again to "replace with something" before I worry about replacing older GPUs, along with a few GTX 9xx series cards.

[henyojess]

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

[P00P135]

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

Not off to a great start.  Equihash needs a lot more than "minimum memory"

[DrG]

One question for the experts here - once you hit ROI on your gear (kind of the goal you are going for from the start and now it needs something new) are you paying out some of your coins as fiat on your bank account or do you just keep reinvesting?
I was thinking to start withdrawing coins to cover the monthly electricity costs and maybe new cards but if 2018 will be like 2017 it would be rather stupid to cash out any decent project/coin right now?

Really interested on how you guys handle this.

 I pull enough coin to pay the bills as fiat, the rest gets reinvested into more hardware to grow the farm.

 This might change at some point in 2018 as I'm starting to see the limits of my infrastructure - worst case I shut down the A2 farm to free up some additional power for the GPU side, though I've also been thinking about replacing the A2s with 841s or something.


 Anyone else notice that NVidia "good mining" cards seem to be in much worse shortage right now than AMD "good mining" cards?

 Even the 1080 ti is getting noticeably short - which did NOT happen during the big Spring mining surge.


 I have to wonder if NVidia is ramping down Pascal production in favor of ramping up Volta production so they have a "good supply of cards" on hand when Volta gets announced and goes on sale (possibly Feb, probably March timeframe, per a comment an EVGA employee dropped somewhere in their forums).

Latest Anand article says DDR6 has qualified and should be on the next platform for both teams. Looking at the stock checkers none of the 1070s, 1080s or 1080Tis have been coming into stock on the big retailers. I would assume the supply is trickling in and that Volta may just hit the streets sooner than I expected.  I still have old hardware that's been going since 2013 that I need to flip over so I'm waiting on the sidelines.

I don't expect Volta do much for decreased wattage but I expect decent gains from the compute side.

[VyprBTC]

I'm so annoyed I have literally ran out of space in my house. Mining is obviously going very, very strong currently and I can't see it ending any time soon (as opposed to 2014...). New paradigm?

Yeah... I'm at 5kw across two 16A breakers. I've had to ban the wife from using hair dryer / vacuum cleaner on certain outlets. We have a third 16A breaker purely for kitchen outlets (kettle, toaster, etc) that I could probably squeeze a 1kw rig onto. But short of that, we are pretty much maxed out.

My main CB is 63A but there is a lot going on behind that - 15A air conditioner, 5A oven etc. I'm not sure what else I can hook up without a serious meter box upgrade.

So, this has me very curious about how much rig wattage my house can take. I have 4 rx 470 rigs pulling between 700-900 watts each in 4 different rooms but i am building a Vega rig to double up in 1 room... it will only have 3 Vega 56's to start so not horribly worried about total wattage in that room, at least not yet.

The thing is, I have no idea about electricity capabilities... are there any general guidelines to go by?  My house is about 13 years old, 1700 SF, 2 story.  Like, how much wattage per outlet? per breaker? per house?  I probably need to hire an electrician for consulting as I would really like to add a 5x Vega and 6x 1070ti rig to my existing setup.  But, any general tips would be appreciated.

 As a general rule, if you look at your main breaker box, the BIG breaker at the top will be the "input" breaker and will tell you your total capacity for the house as a whole.

 Most common house outlets are 15 amp - but check which ones are on which circuits, most houses have MULTIPLE outlets per circuit on many of the circuits, and usually room lighting on the same circuit as one or more of the "in that room" outlets.
 I've seen a LOT of houses where the wiring had outlets in DIFFERENT rooms on the same circuit - the last one I lived in had one circuit that put outlets in 3 different rooms AND room lighting for one of those rooms, but that was an old house with some weird wiring and major issues anyway.

 Breakers are marked with their capacities, usually on the handle.

 DO NOT ASSUME 120 VOLTS.
 The actual "nominal" voltage in the US is 117 VAC, and it's common to see anywhere from 110 to 119 VAC - I've never actually SEEN a circuit deliver 120 VAC at the outlet, though my current place hits 119.3 or so intermittantly and seems to average right about 119.0

QuintLeo is right on this, don't assume -  I've learned so much from the electricians I've hired and when solar was installed they blew my panel because all the breakers were wired really fucked up at my house. Complete replacement had to be done. I hung over them like a shadow asking so many damn questions I'm sure they weren't happy, but at the end of the day, I'm paying you, you're telling me what I want to know or you're fired lol.

I even bought my own digital clamp meter and another meter and can rewire everything myself now, but thtat digital meter will tell you EXACTLY what you're running, volts amps dropoff resistance, everything. It's pretty much indispensable.  

[KaydenC]

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

I have 3 main settings in MSI afterburner. Note the values are for 1080ti with factory clocks.

Profile 1 - For compute bound algos like Skein, Skunkhash, Lyra2RE2. +225 core, default mem.

Profile 2 - Non compute bound algos like Lyra2z. +150 core, default mem.

Profile 3 - Equihash. + 175 core, + 400 mem.

Everything at 70% PL.

In my batch files, it changes profile depending on the coin I'm mining. In general it works well enough. Got 2 more MSI AB profiles left if more profiles are needed in the future.

[A.Delaney]

Phil, what mother board would you recommend for a guy just getting his feet wet in the gpu world? One SC2 1080ti card for now to see how it goes.

[dragonmike]

Happy new year everyone!
Just thought I'd add my opinion about Voltas, if anyone here's saving to buy one... It might not come for quite a while. Consider the 1080Ti is still the best gaming card on the market by far, there's no point rushing the release of Volta and cannibalise the 1080Ti's sales. If you wanna expand, GPU-wise, don't wait. Jump in now.

[philipma1957]

Phil, what mother board would you recommend for a guy just getting his feet wet in the gpu world? One SC2 1080ti card for now to see how it goes.

If you are in the USA shoot me a pm  I will mail one to you.  I have a shit ton of empty boards.

[ticmmae]

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

https://image.ibb.co/eFQCwb/Capture.png

Does anyone mine with neoscrypt? I would appreciate any advice on OC.

[UrsaUrsa]

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

Does anyone mine with neoscrypt? I would appreciate any advice on OC.

As far as I know it's a memory heavy algorithm.

[philipma1957]

Hi Guys.

Am trying to consolidate data on how to properly overclock for different algorithms.
It will be a public spreadsheet so the community can benefit.

Hopefully, the veterans in this thread can chime in and recommend how to OC for each algo i.e.
for ethash: min core/max mem
for equihash: max core/min mem <-- not sure about this

Thanks in advance.

Here is the sheet opened for COMMENT:
https://goo.gl/SLjsaA

Does anyone mine with neoscrypt? I would appreciate any advice on OC.

locked and done  new thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2674194.new#new


note I forwarded last post about neoscrypt.

[philipma1957]

bump

[philipma1957]

to all mods I am placing these in order please allow for this.