[ANN][TZC] TrezarCoin Super-Secure-PoW/PoS

[Conqueror]

the opening post doesnt state how to stake coins.
i need a step by step guide.
thank you

You won't get it. I think that even dev doesn't know how it exactly works.

It's literally in the first post. How to set it up and a walkthrough of what all the options do.
One, the two steps for setting up staking already laid out for you in the announcement.

Create a file called Trezarcoin.conf (needs to be config File ) and place it into your /TrezarCoin/Data Folder.

irc=1
dns=1
qtstyle=2
daemon=1
server=1
stakegen=1
logtimestamps=1
minersleep=2000
stakemindepth=1000
stakemintime=72
stakecombine=40
stakesplit=80
port=17298
rpcport=17299
rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1

And two, the dev explains what all the parameters do in the announcement.

Go FUD somewhere else please, lets try and keep this post constructive.

It is enough for simple guys like you. But there is no explanation of the difference between settings in terms of profit.

What are you looking for?
you can adjust your stakeminetime to 24 so your  coins start staking soon (won't make much of a difference at this point with 81+mil coins)
your stakemiedepth and stakeminetime fight with each other, I am unsure whom overrides whom if you have both I believe from what I have seen it is the 1000 confirmations override the 24 hours.
The stakecombine and stakesplit depend on how many coins you have and what YOU think will be the more likely size of transactions to stake. you can use coin control under send if you have the option enabled to create more inputs to help improve your chances but it would only be a tiny tiny  percent as the wallet is going to break your transactions down in size to match your split number over time and coinweight rules the day.

so if you had 1000 coins and only  adding in the 100 for POS with your current settings its will keep dividing your coins
first POS reward 1000 +100 would yield to a stack of 550 and a second stack of 550
one of those 550 get a result of 550+ 100 that would split into 325 and 325 plus you would still have your other 550 from the first split
coin weight on the 325 reset and the second 550 continue to grow, this keeps going by adding 100 for the POS, resetting the weight on the finding stack and splitting down to the size you have set.

you could put your combine to big units if you think the network will deal with bigger chunks, it might help you. Its hard to say your coin amount, the size of the transaction to stake along with up to 16 days of additional coin weight with luck added on top.

you are NOT going to get even a 1% advantage but finetuning your settings you are going to likely get a .000001% unless you are on the 100 rich list with over 100K coins and even then you still won't get an advantage greater than your coin count in the first place.

How would a simple guy know this, he would read the 50 pages of this thread, and talk to people on slack and telegram and he would play around with the wallet to see if one wallet setting works better than another.

I am on slack all the time as well as in the telegram group. if you are still confused by what has been said in these places ask your questions, experiment, see what others have found, but you are not going to ninja all the POS rewards.

-TC

exactly - join slack and dont be worry to ask, exploring and experimenting with this unique kind of pos is what we do all the time
it is interesting and you learn a lot
(especially when you explore coin control / list view - you can see how coins are split internally within wallet after each stake)
once you understand basic functionality most of parameters will make sense to you
on the other hand config file from main post will work just great, all you need to do is have open wallet and at least split the coins

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[medveworld]

all that auction killed honest POS system for people

[Conqueror]

all that auction killed honest POS system for people

here we go...another worthless idiot
i already elaborated on this exact topic few pages back
if you was not able to buy enough from extremely cheap auction...you would not be able to buy from exchange later on as well
i understand you are poor as mouse, it is not bad or good thing to be poor
but it is YOUR issue

so stop blaming the coin for being worthless fucking looser
instead invest your time and energy and change your situation

[SyrioForElle]

when will this coin go to the exchange?

First Page.

Exchanges.
https://coinsmarkets.com/trade-BTC-TZC.htm
https://bitzure.com/markets/tzcbtc

I must admit I have never ever heard about the exchange bitzure. They are pretty small I guess?

Don't touch Bitzure. They're a scam, and they've been holding withdrawals. Lost the 100k TZC I deposited there. Coinsmarkets is the only reputable market at the moment.

Coinsmarket is a little sketchy as well. Are there any plans to list at more reputable exchanges? It'd make it easier for me to drive interest in the project with some buyers.

[ChekaZ]

when will this coin go to the exchange?

First Page.

Exchanges.
https://coinsmarkets.com/trade-BTC-TZC.htm
https://bitzure.com/markets/tzcbtc

I must admit I have never ever heard about the exchange bitzure. They are pretty small I guess?

Don't touch Bitzure. They're a scam, and they've been holding withdrawals. Lost the 100k TZC I deposited there. Coinsmarkets is the only reputable market at the moment.

Coinsmarket is a little sketchy as well. Are there any plans to list at more reputable exchanges? It'd make it easier for me to drive interest in the project with some buyers.

Iam on it.

[trgnn]

all that auction killed honest POS system for people

here we go...another worthless idiot
i already elaborated on this exact topic few pages back
if you was not able to buy enough from extremely cheap auction...you would not be able to buy from exchange later on as well
i understand you are poor as mouse, it is not bad or good thing to be poor
but it is YOUR issue

so stop blaming the coin for being worthless fucking looser
instead invest your time and energy and change your situation

I don't want to tell anyone how to live but you might be uselessly agressive here. There is no need for this, things and positions can be smoothly explained and it'll be better for the persons who created this thread and who're working on this project.

[Commie]

How's staking going nowadays for people with less than 100K in the wallet? POS difficulty seems to be skyrocketing...

[trgnn]

It'll probably fall down a bit when big holders will move funds on exhanges.. Hopefully.

[avirdoz]

I've generated few PoS blocks with 10000 tzc input, so everyone can.

[trgnn]

Yeah, me too, when the diff was under 0.8...

[Voxterra]

It'll probably fall down a bit when big holders will move funds on exhanges.. Hopefully.

I have to imagine your right, once a credible exchange takes us in (cryptopia, at the least) i'm fairly certain a lot of staked coins will come un-staked and transferred to the exchange. Thus, dropping difficulty, or at least slowing the rocket, haha

the opening post doesnt state how to stake coins.
i need a step by step guide.
thank you

You won't get it. I think that even dev doesn't know how it exactly works.

It's literally in the first post. How to set it up and a walkthrough of what all the options do.
One, the two steps for setting up staking already laid out for you in the announcement.

Create a file called Trezarcoin.conf (needs to be config File ) and place it into your /TrezarCoin/Data Folder.

irc=1
dns=1
qtstyle=2
daemon=1
server=1
stakegen=1
logtimestamps=1
minersleep=2000
stakemindepth=1000
stakemintime=24
stakecombine=40
stakesplit=80
port=17298
rpcport=17299
rpcuser=username
rpcpassword=password
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1

And two, the dev explains what all the parameters do in the announcement.

Go FUD somewhere else please, lets try and keep this post constructive.

It is enough for simple guys like you. But there is no explanation of the difference between settings in terms of profit.

difficulty is at a point where leaving the settings exactly as their pasted is your best bet. The maximum you can set for stakesplit is 4k, and you currently want the largest stake sizes you can get imo. Again, as its been said, there are no optimal settings, its all up to how you want to play the game. Thundercock explained it all for you, again. Can you please stop pretending were trying to keep you off of some big secret, because unless you have over 100-200k coins, the pasted .conf is the absolute optimal in my opinion.

[joppiesaus]

i have way over a million coins.
have the config file exactly pasted like that but received no coins yet.
what would optimal setting be according to you with a large number of coins.
thanks

[joppiesaus]

just saw my wallet was locked.
opened it now.
for noobies like me : the wallet needs to be open, means that i double click the wallet and open it.

[abudfv2008]

What are you looking for?
you can adjust your stakeminetime to 24 so your  coins start staking soon (won't make much of a difference at this point with 81+mil coins)
your stakemiedepth and stakeminetime fight with each other, I am unsure whom overrides whom if you have both I believe from what I have seen it is the 1000 confirmations override the 24 hours.
The stakecombine and stakesplit depend on how many coins you have and what YOU think will be the more likely size of transactions to stake. you can use coin control under send if you have the option enabled to create more inputs to help improve your chances but it would only be a tiny tiny  percent as the wallet is going to break your transactions down in size to match your split number over time and coinweight rules the day.

so if you had 1000 coins and only  adding in the 100 for POS with your current settings its will keep dividing your coins
first POS reward 1000 +100 would yield to a stack of 550 and a second stack of 550
one of those 550 get a result of 550+ 100 that would split into 325 and 325 plus you would still have your other 550 from the first split
coin weight on the 325 reset and the second 550 continue to grow, this keeps going by adding 100 for the POS, resetting the weight on the finding stack and splitting down to the size you have set.

you could put your combine to big units if you think the network will deal with bigger chunks, it might help you. Its hard to say your coin amount, the size of the transaction to stake along with up to 16 days of additional coin weight with luck added on top.

you are NOT going to get even a 1% advantage but finetuning your settings you are going to likely get a .000001% unless you are on the 100 rich list with over 100K coins and even then you still won't get an advantage greater than your coin count in the first place.

How would a simple guy know this, he would read the 50 pages of this thread, and talk to people on slack and telegram and he would play around with the wallet to see if one wallet setting works better than another.

I am on slack all the time as well as in the telegram group. if you are still confused by what has been said in these places ask your questions, experiment, see what others have found, but you are not going to ninja all the POS rewards.

-TC

Ok here are simple questions for not a simple guy.
1) What's the profit to set "stakemintime" 16days and not 1 or 2 or 7? What's the difference except that the staking will start later (if 16 is set) and you loose 16 days of staking?
2) What's the difference betweek minage avgage and maxagecoins? Do they have different weight or for what it is shown?

[crofly]

1. stakemintime is disabled if stakemindepth is set
    # also it depends on your overall configuration together with input count, number of coins per input
    # having it at 1 day is not needed imo
    # at 1 day the weight for the input is 0, even setting mindepth at 2880 for 2 days, 400 coin input will have only 400 weight
    # you can let it be on 1 day, but don't think those 1-2 days old inputs will get pos block or even with 4 days
    # so for me it's for the clarity/visibility of using the more usefull inputs that may get a pos block and to show the weight of it

2. shows how many inputs are at those stages, as I haved moved inputs a lot, all of mine are still min age, avg age should be about 8 days
    # yes they have different weight, cause weight increases with coinage, so at max eight the input has the max weight it can get

[abudfv2008]

1. stakemintime is disabled if stakemindepth is set
    # also it depends on your overall configuration together with input count, number of coins per input
    # having it at 1 day is not needed imo
    # at 1 day the weight for the input is 0, even setting mindepth at 2880 for 2 days, 400 coin input will have only 400 weight
    # you can let it be on 1 day, but don't think those 1-2 days old inputs will get pos block or even with 4 days
    # so for me it's for the clarity/visibility of using the more usefull inputs that may get a pos block and to show the weight of it

2. shows how many inputs are at those stages, as I haved moved inputs a lot, all of mine are still min age, avg age should be about 8 days
    # yes they have different weight, cause weight increases with coinage, so at max eight the input has the max weight it can get

1) Don't you think that you didn't answer the question? Probability is possibility so it is no sense to put anything more than minimum, unless this "stakemintime" is used if formula as some quotient and setting it to 16 will give you more "weight".
2) Avgage is exactly 8days (or the midddle between Max-Min) or it is the inner third period(6-11)?
3) 250*20 or 5*1000 or 1*5000 which one has more chances to win 1 POS (or they are equal)? What is the max-min of stakesplit? 20 - xxx? If the chances are equal than default 80 is false. The same with stakecombine.
4) it is written "Additionally if  the input was bigger than stakesplit (default: 400 ) and coinage was not max ( 16 days ) they will be split in 2 halfs"
So if coinage is max then what?

[crofly]

1. Having it on minimum or 2 days wont increase your pos block rewards. Stakemintime is deactivated with stakemindepth configured...and no no quotioent
2. Dunno could be either, you just have to wait and see
3. Well 1 Input with 5k weight has more weight then 1 with 250, but that 1 5k wont stake for 24h if it gets a pos block and also start at 0 weight while if one of the 20 inputs get a pos block, 19 other still staking
    # so technically if only those 2 were staking, the one with more inputs gets more rewards
    # min is 400 and max is 4000 for split and half of that for combine
4. well it wont be split then

[abudfv2008]

1. Having it on minimum or 2 days wont increase your pos block rewards. Stakemintime is deactivated with stakemindepth configured...and no no quotioent
2. Dunno could be either, you just have to wait and see
3. Well 1 Input with 5k weight has more weight then 1 with 250, but that 1 5k wont stake for 24h if it gets a pos block and also start at 0 weight while if one of the 20 inputs get a pos block, 19 other still staking
    # so technically if only those 2 were staking, the one with more inputs gets more rewards
    # min is 400 and max is 4000 for split and half of that for combine
4. well it wont be split then

1) And you still gave no answer or gave wrong, because having it on minimum will always maximize your chances to win. So what is the reason for this setting to exist if setting it bigger than 24 makes things only worse?
2) Wait and see because dev is not able to explain. Nice.
3) You are definetly wrong. Even it sample config it is not 400-4000
stakecombine=40
stakesplit=80
And you didn't answer the question. Once again. Both varians have 5000coins
a) 1 input * 5000 coins
b) 250 inputs*20 coins
Which variant has more chances to win POS (the first POS block. I'm not speaking about sequent blocks).
4) Where it is written? So that means that you will get stuck with big inputs with x16dayscoins if they didn't win POS before that?

[crofly]

Clearly you have no clue what you are writing, can't read and can't be arsed to do your own research/tests...it's like talking to a wall. Have fun with your life

[abudfv2008]

Clearly you have no clue what you are writing, can't read and can't be arsed to do your own research/tests...it's like talking to a wall. Have fun with your life

Oh yes it is the simplest way to do that way.  But you won't look smarter then you are.
It is the majority that have no clue, no interest, they sit still on their asses and are satisfied with what they get. The less you know the happier you are.
If you can't answer the questions then pass by. Questions are ritorical - 99% don't know answers to them, because to have an answer you should be able to read the code of POS.