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December 18, 2017, 12:20:38 PM
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I'm not sure mathematics can affect the victory of a gambling. I am more sure if a gambler makes more practices on his or her skills and being good at playing a gambling trick, then a greater victory may become hers or his.

I don't think either that skills could help you in gambling because as far as I know, gambling is still more of luck than skills. Well, skills could help you on some games in gambling, like poker and gambling prediction, but in the end, you could see that luck is still the one you need in gambling. If you are playing gambling thinking of a way where you could earn profits, and too desperate to win, well sad to say but you are just going to lose your money.
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December 18, 2017, 02:22:23 PM
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The answer to your question is very simple: If math can help you winning in roulette, the casinos would be already broke, wouldn't they? The only game I know where math can help you to win is poker, because here you can calculate your odds to determine your bets or calls or allins.
Math can't make you guaranteed to win, math can only predict how much your chance to win and it's clearly stated based on a lot of research that no one can beat the house edge in the long run include roulette. Then now it's up to you to understand about that definition.
Yes there is no assurance that you can make a profit using maths in gambling, but it will help you to limit yours loses while playing gambling. And yes only in card games people can do small calculations, but how it will help them to make money or not, I am not sure. It's a bit difficult to understand this definition but you can.
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December 18, 2017, 02:47:41 PM
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The answer to your question is very simple: If math can help you winning in roulette, the casinos would be already broke, wouldn't they? The only game I know where math can help you to win is poker, because here you can calculate your odds to determine your bets or calls or allins.
Math can't make you guaranteed to win, math can only predict how much your chance to win and it's clearly stated based on a lot of research that no one can beat the house edge in the long run include roulette. Then now it's up to you to understand about that definition.
Yes there is no assurance that you can make a profit using maths in gambling, but it will help you to limit yours loses while playing gambling. And yes only in card games people can do small calculations, but how it will help them to make money or not, I am not sure. It's a bit difficult to understand this definition but you can.
Gambling involves numbers so I think math is somewhat needed when you gamble. And yes your are correct that the role of math in gambling is to keep truck to your money if you are on lose or winning, it helps us not to go beyond our limitations sometimes.

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December 18, 2017, 03:58:31 PM
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Well I can say a good knowledge in math will help you win in gambling. But you know, it is not the end-all-be-all in the world of gambling. Sometimes it has something to do with right timing. Also, there are software that are developed to help people predict future movements. This will do all the math for you. This mechanism will help you store the data you have and help you gauge movements that will take place in the years to come. You need not be an expert in math because all you have to do is to key in salient data that the system needs, then alas! 
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December 19, 2017, 12:05:54 AM
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Well I can say a good knowledge in math will help you win in gambling. But you know, it is not the end-all-be-all in the world of gambling. Sometimes it has something to do with right timing. Also, there are software that are developed to help people predict future movements. This will do all the math for you. This mechanism will help you store the data you have and help you gauge movements that will take place in the years to come. You need not be an expert in math because all you have to do is to key in salient data that the system needs, then alas! 

I disagree, maths can help you analyse your games and even help you calculate your profits and losses but it will never play a role in making your bets or gamble go in your favour,. Not even games that offer you the chance to input some skills can make you win with maths.
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December 19, 2017, 01:37:47 AM
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I do not think so. Because if this is true, all mathematicians could have been playing casino or gamble for the most of their lives to be rich that away. You can not guess if you play in casino that uou are going to win. Specially in french roulette. You never can tell where that little ball land or what number it will stop. Mathematician cannot calculate that. I cant even calculate the spinning of slot machines. In case of table games, well being mathematician probably can help in calculating at the same time with the help of luck.
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December 19, 2017, 01:48:17 AM
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The answer to your question is very simple: If math can help you winning in roulette, the casinos would be already broke, wouldn't they? The only game I know where math can help you to win is poker, because here you can calculate your odds to determine your bets or calls or allins.

In poker also you can't say confidently that you will win the game after all those calculation because still just a guessing and that's why you to be lucky to win games. It also applicable to sports betting because there are many things we can't guess accurately so at the end depends on luck. Maybe if you do a good calculation in some game it may help you to reduce your losses.
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December 19, 2017, 04:47:44 AM
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Well, I don't think so that there is any method you can actually use to win gambling. Maths can't actually help you in gambling as maths is about calculations and gambling is all about luck. You will just need to depend on your luck to win gambling. Especially in roulette there is no such thing you can do with maths, the only thing you could possibly do is predict what might come next and rely on your luck.
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December 19, 2017, 12:39:19 PM
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interesting😃... sometimes it helps because in gambling you need to be alert also in figure, it makes sense when you’re good in mathematics because usually a gambler is fast to calculate on figures, therefore yes math can also help in some ways, but of course in gmbling, Luck also plays role always, because if it is your lucky day day, it should be your win day too😃
I completely agree with your saying that gambling is completely luck based thing. If you are lucky person, you will enjoy gambling and if the case is opposite then there will be no bigger hatter of gambling seen than you in the market. As far as my knowledge of gambling is concerned, there is no math formula introduced in the market which can be applied on gambling and the loser can become the winner.

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December 19, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
Last edit: December 19, 2017, 09:41:33 PM by alfs75
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

For me its true mostly person who always done gambling is very wiser in mathematics subject ,and i can prove that,because my friends is so addicted in gambling poker,cockfighting and mahjong games.when we go to school he always recieve a medal because he is so clever in this subject given,and when i ask him why he so very wise when its comes to mathematics subject and he answered me because he makes all the numbers as a gambling numerics,everything he see numbers he treated us money in gambling games.

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December 19, 2017, 06:37:38 PM
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Well, I don't think so that there is any method you can actually use to win gambling. Maths can't actually help you in gambling as maths is about calculations and gambling is all about luck. You will just need to depend on your luck to win gambling. Especially in roulette there is no such thing you can do with maths, the only thing you could possibly do is predict what might come next and rely on your luck.
As always mention it can be use as basis but no assurance that it will give us good result, its still luck that we can depend in terms of gambling
without luck we will keep losing even we try to calculate the numbers of games and each losing or winning streak, we should always remember
its all about luck and nothing else.
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December 19, 2017, 07:45:32 PM
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I'm not sure mathematics can affect the victory of a gambling. I am more sure if a gambler makes more practices on his or her skills and being good at playing a gambling trick, then a greater victory may become hers or his.

I don't think either that skills could help you in gambling because as far as I know, gambling is still more of luck than skills. Well, skills could help you on some games in gambling, like poker and gambling prediction, but in the end, you could see that luck is still the one you need in gambling. If you are playing gambling thinking of a way where you could earn profits, and too desperate to win, well sad to say but you are just going to lose your money.

I agree. I play poker, NL Hold'em namely, on a level above average, but if luck is not on your side you really can't do much. For example if you have two Aces on pre-flop and some player who's always bluffing goes all-in, you go all-in too, and technically you are right, especially when you see his cards, 7 and 8 not suited. But if there are no Aces then and two 7s, you lose because you have Two Pair and he has Three of a Kind.

No, math can't help you to win in gambling. If it was the case all mathematicians would be the richest men on Earth.

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December 19, 2017, 09:36:35 PM
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Well, I don't think so that there is any method you can actually use to win gambling. Maths can't actually help you in gambling as maths is about calculations and gambling is all about luck. You will just need to depend on your luck to win gambling. Especially in roulette there is no such thing you can do with maths, the only thing you could possibly do is predict what might come next and rely on your luck.
As always mention it can be use as basis but no assurance that it will give us good result, its still luck that we can depend in terms of gambling
without luck we will keep losing even we try to calculate the numbers of games and each losing or winning streak, we should always remember
its all about luck and nothing else.
Those math calculations is just being used to add up some spice on our gameplays because it would really be boring if we do just randomly put bets and roll out. People do have different treatment or way on how they would enjoy the game but most people are really relying and hoping that those math calculation would really work to help them win which we know it is an impossible thing.
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December 20, 2017, 03:23:28 AM
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I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.


Yes, that's true. Even if you are very good in math, it will not help you to win the gambling game because in gambling it does not depend on how you play it. But it depends on your luck of winning. If you are really lucky on that day, then surely you will win but if you are not lucky, of course you will always lose the gambling game.
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December 20, 2017, 05:13:45 AM
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I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.


Yes, that's true. Even if you are very good in math, it will not help you to win the gambling game because in gambling it does not depend on how you play it. But it depends on your luck of winning. If you are really lucky on that day, then surely you will win but if you are not lucky, of course you will always lose the gambling game.
I don't agree with that, maybe we can give an exemption on luck based games as the name itself it's only based on luck, but the reality is there are people who are profitable in gambling so it's not possible to be in the same position they are enjoying. If we are good in math and we develop that then I believe we have a chance to win if we will play gambling which is skilled based games, of course there's lot of its kind but you have to focus only on one game.

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December 20, 2017, 05:20:32 AM
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Probably it can. At least it will help you realize the risks involved especially with the house edge getting added into the mix of things.

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December 20, 2017, 09:00:13 PM
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Well as for me I don't believe that mathematics will be of help when it come gambling. Though a friend of mine told me recently that mathematics can be of great help for you to win or be successful in gambling and that has helped him on several occasion in wining gambling.  
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December 21, 2017, 02:02:13 AM
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that's because most gamblers compute their gambling when they win it often loses the way someone else does so you earn in gambling because my friend did it sometimes and he won that procedure but 2nd time he made it again That strategy is that he loses because of that gambling, winning is losing.

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December 21, 2017, 05:57:41 AM
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When you bet as an expert in a game of gambling you already take into account your 'experience' which is nothing but fixed patterns in your brain and how you are well used to the game. Mathematics also can deal with these patterns in terms of probabilities and can help to some extent in predicting the outcome of a bet.

Tossing a coin can give you head or tail. 50% chance for either of the two. But if you continuously get a 'tail' it is just a coincidence but the person tossing the coin and which coin is used and where it is being tossed - all these can be accounted for - to create a pattern in prediction. In the same way in any gambling maths can help to a certain extent.

But when you take games like blackjack or roulette the number of parameters affecting the game are very high. Further, the variance is too high to make a prediction as the study probabilities will not help determining the outcome. It is alright to play once in a while but continuous gambling will lead to doom! All prediction is to help you at what time point you should stop playing!

Predictions are almost always non-existent, I agree with you there.. Getting stuck in a mindset that you somehow can tell the future is extremely dangerous and even though you may have been lucky 10 times in the past that does not mean you will automatically be correct the next 10 times.

I agree that the patterns some people get suck in are dangerous. I should know as I've been stuck in the same mindset previously.. All good now though Cheesy.
Although predictions is a risky factor, yet the use of logic and intelligence is badly needed in some kinds of gambling. For example, in poker and canasta, the use of logic is essential in guessing the cards of your opponent. In addition to that, the mathematical concepts such as probability and statistics are the one you should be slightly familiar of. However, following the patterns can give shocking results if you show carelessness.
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December 21, 2017, 06:17:04 AM
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it will only help in sport.. in casino game such as roulette,cards,etc there is no hope.. house always win  Grin
It also does not help you in sports. Sport betting also will never be perfect predicted, for example there is a football match last night. Bristol who beat Manchester United. I'm sure people's predictions will fall on Manchester united because logically, manchester united is way above the Bristol level. But sports are not like math, nothing is sure there.
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