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January 16, 2012, 08:48:45 AM
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Chodpapa's given me enough info to do roughly the same thing if I build up enough historical data... that is very generous in my mind. He could just as well be sitting back manipulating everyone.

Yes, I agree he has been generous.

Historical data:
http://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/

Everyone is generous in this thread. I plan to buy high and sell low for all of you.
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January 16, 2012, 08:55:06 AM
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Chodpapa's given me enough info to do roughly the same thing if I build up enough historical data... that is very generous in my mind. He could just as well be sitting back manipulating everyone.

Yes, I agree he has been generous.

Historical data:
http://bitcoincharts.com/about/markets-api/

Everyone is generous in this thread. I plan to buy high and sell low for all of you.

Thanks a lot Wink.

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January 16, 2012, 09:54:52 AM
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Chodpapa's given me enough info to do roughly the same thing if I build up enough historical data... that is very generous in my mind. He could just as well be sitting back manipulating everyone.

would anyone mind helping me on my way to do just this?  i dont want to poach or anything but i really want to learn how to start doing my own educated speculating.  if someone wants to pm me just saying theyd like to take the time to chat in IRC at a future date would make me one happy guy!
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January 16, 2012, 10:12:09 AM
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Chodpapa's given me enough info to do roughly the same thing if I build up enough historical data... that is very generous in my mind. He could just as well be sitting back manipulating everyone.

would anyone mind helping me on my way to do just this?  i dont want to poach or anything but i really want to learn how to start doing my own educated speculating.  if someone wants to pm me just saying theyd like to take the time to chat in IRC at a future date would make me one happy guy!

Have you tried reading the thread?  He goes into pretty high detail about his model.

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January 16, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
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Chodpapa's given me enough info to do roughly the same thing if I build up enough historical data... that is very generous in my mind. He could just as well be sitting back manipulating everyone.

would anyone mind helping me on my way to do just this?  i dont want to poach or anything but i really want to learn how to start doing my own educated speculating.  if someone wants to pm me just saying theyd like to take the time to chat in IRC at a future date would make me one happy guy!

Have you tried reading the thread?  He goes into pretty high detail about his model.

yea doin that now, spoke too soon.
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January 18, 2012, 02:00:56 AM
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That was some crazy shit, and I will admit that it plays hell with my models...

This schizophrenic episode has fucked up a lot of data.
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January 19, 2012, 03:40:41 AM
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i'm astonished that $5.90 has that much support already.

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January 20, 2012, 01:12:04 AM
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@Chodpaba
Can you explain the difference between OBV and PVT?

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January 20, 2012, 01:51:05 AM
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Thanks.  Is there any particular reason you chose OBV over PVT for scaling?  It seems like PVT is just a smoother view of the same data.

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January 20, 2012, 02:26:01 AM
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Thanks.  Is there any particular reason you chose OBV over PVT for scaling?  It seems like PVT is just a smoother view of the same data.

PVT is useful for spotting divergence in price and volume, so if you see price climbing and PVT staying flat you can cry "bullshit".

I'm not really doing that, all I am interested in is looking at a delta of volume over a sample time period that is either going up or going down to get an idea of average daily volume, it doesn't even matter what that number is, for the purposes of the chart it is just 'average daily volume'. The method is a lot more like how OBV is calculated so I call it OBV. The chart isn't in dollars, it isn't in days—it is just average volume days.

Also, it is not intended to be precisely quantitative, which I don't think would be meaningful to do given the wide range of volume fluctuations from day to day. I don't trade on this chart, and I pity the fool who does, but I do use it as a sanity check on the order book.

Volume is definitely unpredictable in this market.  I would agree that trading on support/resistance alone can be dangerous.

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January 20, 2012, 02:28:31 AM
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Can this thread be stickied?
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January 21, 2012, 10:19:29 PM
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I think I've finally figured out what's going on here. Bitcoin is going up. In USD it follows normal patterns. In Canadian Dollars, you just double them and add 30, but then convert that in a cancellation wave. In Australia, the patterns are upside down, so you need to be contrarian. Every odd Saturday, the pattern changes, but Bitcoin still continues to go up. Mostly I'll just buy and hold, but sometimes I'll just hold.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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January 23, 2012, 05:27:45 AM
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Market   Last   Volume (24h)   Bid   Ask   High   Low
mtgoxUSD    6.2513    42,762.84    6.25    6.29    6.45    6.10
thUSD    6.2781    3,135.08    6.29    6.34    6.45    6.11
virwoxSLL    1649.5000    1,393.00    1505.10    1648.40    1693.00    1500.00
mtgoxEUR    4.9406    1,329.47    4.93    4.94    5.04    4.85
intrsngGBP    4.1204    1,218.36    4.12    4.20    4.21    4.07
btcexUSD    5.8700    881.24    5.87    6.20    6.40    5.38
intrsngEUR    4.7501    796.61    4.76    5.00    5.00    4.74
cryptoxUSD    6.3900    700.53    5.06    6.39    10000000.00    5.04

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January 23, 2012, 01:37:43 PM
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Market   Last   Volume (24h)   Bid   Ask   High   Low
mtgoxUSD    6.2513    42,762.84    6.25    6.29    6.45    6.10
thUSD    6.2781    3,135.08    6.29    6.34    6.45    6.11
virwoxSLL    1649.5000    1,393.00    1505.10    1648.40    1693.00    1500.00
mtgoxEUR    4.9406    1,329.47    4.93    4.94    5.04    4.85
intrsngGBP    4.1204    1,218.36    4.12    4.20    4.21    4.07
btcexUSD    5.8700    881.24    5.87    6.20    6.40    5.38
intrsngEUR    4.7501    796.61    4.76    5.00    5.00    4.74
cryptoxUSD    6.3900    700.53    5.06    6.39    10000000.00    5.04

lol

I knew BTC would be worth a lot some day :-)

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January 24, 2012, 03:10:10 AM
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it's developing plenty of stability at this price..

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January 25, 2012, 01:18:44 AM
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It would be kinda cool to see an animation of the charts through time.  Not cool enough for me to actually do it though Smiley  One can sort of obtain the effect by sliding on the forum page.  Sort of like drawing a stick-man on multiple pages of a book...back in the old days when books were common.


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January 25, 2012, 01:48:14 AM
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It would be kinda cool to see an animation of the charts through time.  Not cool enough for me to actually do it though Smiley  One can sort of obtain the effect by sliding on the forum page.  Sort of like drawing a stick-man on multiple pages of a book...back in the old days when books were common.



It would not be that hard to do, but I haven't been consistent in gathering the snapshots, so it would be a mess. Maybe I will do that one day if I see that there is a series of fairly consistently collected snapshots.
The formula is posted publicly though, so is it not possible to recurse through the historical data and regenerate the graphs?
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January 25, 2012, 02:06:44 PM
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It is actually fairly calculation intensive. And the way I have things set up it would be a semi-manual process... I just don't feel like doing it.

do you have valid timestamps on the pics? If so it could be made to not be such a mess... care to share a tgz or something that preserves "datetime created"?

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January 25, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
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A view from 10,000 ft.



Ironically, $7.2 used to be the site of a plateau Shocked

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January 27, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
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I am finding this concept very useful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_interval

As long as this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceteris_paribus is not being ignored.

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