Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[ToxicDartFrog]

So about 3 weeks now since I withdrew my ANC from Cryptsy and the transactions finally appeared in the blockchain/my wallet. Not sure what's going on over there but I'm glad to get the rest of my coins out!

[ABISprotocol]

http://www.wired.com/2016/01/zcash-an-untraceable-bitcoin-alternative-launches-in-alpha/

Sounds like vaporware but we'll see.

For its first four years online, a portion of every mined Zcash coin will go directly to Wilcox’s Zcash company and a smaller portion to a non-profit he’s creating to oversee the Zcash code and community longterm. Wilcox says that he plans for 1 percent of Zcash’s currency to ultimately go towards that non-profit, and 10 percent to be paid to the for-profit startup.

sounds like the typical instiminted story, nothing more than a money making scheme imo, i have great respect for some of the people involved but have they removed the backdoor ?

with ZeroCash, the people than create it can exploit the initial parameters and sign bogus transactions to give themselves unlimited free coins, it looks like instead of finding a solution for this, they have embraces it as a means of making themselves rich

Hi,

I don't think that is really the case here.  On the one hand, the fact that there is a portion of mined Zcash diverted to the company (with 10 percent going to the for-profit startup, apparently with the bulk of that 10 percent to pay back investors who have already coughed up over 700k), could be seen as a criticism - do that for too long, the community isn't going to look kindly upon it, and some people simply aren't going to like the fact that it's done at all.  On the other hand, apart from the criticism it invites, it also can be seen as a potential net positive - no matter what, Zcash will have paid off its investors and have a tidy development fund to utilize.   

In addition, there's nothing requiring anyone to use Zcash... the team has already produced Zerocoin (its initial release) and later, developed Zerocash, before its current release of Zcash (alpha, testnet).  (ANC development schedule shows some development work done with Zerocoin - for details see https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Development_schedule - though there were hiccups from back in fall of 2014 with heavy proofs and other issues, which apparently have taken a while to work out).  So, it's an open source world... people can use what they will.  I am guessing that if people want to use Zcash they will, for example, and if they want to use Zerocoin they will... each project that is evaluating using those will have their rationale for the direction they want to go.

[jolskeboll]

About btc38, my withdrawals often get stuck -> invalid state and then have to contact the support

[matthewh3]

http://www.wired.com/2016/01/zcash-an-untraceable-bitcoin-alternative-launches-in-alpha/

Sounds like vaporware but we'll see.

For its first four years online, a portion of every mined Zcash coin will go directly to Wilcox’s Zcash company and a smaller portion to a non-profit he’s creating to oversee the Zcash code and community longterm. Wilcox says that he plans for 1 percent of Zcash’s currency to ultimately go towards that non-profit, and 10 percent to be paid to the for-profit startup.

sounds like the typical instiminted story, nothing more than a money making scheme imo, i have great respect for some of the people involved but have they removed the backdoor ?

with ZeroCash, the people than create it can exploit the initial parameters and sign bogus transactions to give themselves unlimited free coins, it looks like instead of finding a solution for this, they have embraces it as a means of making themselves rich

Hi,

I don't think that is really the case here.  On the one hand, the fact that there is a portion of mined Zcash diverted to the company (with 10 percent going to the for-profit startup, apparently with the bulk of that 10 percent to pay back investors who have already coughed up over 700k), could be seen as a criticism - do that for too long, the community isn't going to look kindly upon it, and some people simply aren't going to like the fact that it's done at all.  On the other hand, apart from the criticism it invites, it also can be seen as a potential net positive - no matter what, Zcash will have paid off its investors and have a tidy development fund to utilize.   

In addition, there's nothing requiring anyone to use Zcash... the team has already produced Zerocoin (its initial release) and later, developed Zerocash, before its current release of Zcash (alpha, testnet).  (ANC development schedule shows some development work done with Zerocoin - for details see https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Development_schedule - though there were hiccups from back in fall of 2014 with heavy proofs and other issues, which apparently have taken a while to work out).  So, it's an open source world... people can use what they will.  I am guessing that if people want to use Zcash they will, for example, and if they want to use Zerocoin they will... each project that is evaluating using those will have their rationale for the direction they want to go.

Also taking 10% of the whole coin supply is way too much to believe they are confident their project can do as well as they are claiming it will do.  5% would be enough if they were just greedy and 2% or less would be enough if it was just about paying for development et al.   

[tomothy]

Any luck on finding new developer to assist w/ code review and hardfork?

CS has fixed most of the bugs and we are doing a testnet now, if you want to participate join our dev channel on irc2p.

I would if only I had some leet skills. Happy to hear CS is taking names and kicking butts, or would hiding names be more in line w/ overarching process. ^_^
I'm not going to hold my breath on Zcash. I'd like to read someone smarter's peer review of it to really get a better understanding. I.e., how it transmits, central authority, etc etc.
It sounds good, but I remember dogedarkdash or whatever that flavor of the month was lol.

[mathgal23]

Any luck on finding new developer to assist w/ code review and hardfork?

CS has fixed most of the bugs and we are doing a testnet now, if you want to participate join our dev channel on irc2p.

I would if only I had some leet skills. Happy to hear CS is taking names and kicking butts, or would hiding names be more in line w/ overarching process. ^_^
I'm not going to hold my breath on Zcash. I'd like to read someone smarter's peer review of it to really get a better understanding. I.e., how it transmits, central authority, etc etc.
It sounds good, but I remember dogedarkdash or whatever that flavor of the month was lol.

ZCash will largely be judged on its trusted setup and the markets view on the chances of all setup participants deciding to collude at some point in the future (which cannot be detected) to "mint" an unlimited number of additional coins.

[X68N]

since a lot of exchange exposed as scam (cryptsy,bter,coins-e,vircurex) and others just go offlice,

last place to trade are the chinese exchances it seems to me.
http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=anc

the price for anc/cny also seems good in my opinion (it could be much  worse) i am an optismist lol

[jolskeboll]

I just HAD to touch 0.001 limit a few moments ago at cryptopia

[jolskeboll]

Has anyone been in touch with Cryptsy lately about releasing stuck ANC? I'm willing to raise some funds to the one helping our ANC out of there.

I can start by giving a 150 ANC bounty. Anyone else?

(Because it SEEMS like Cryptsy is working on it). However my deadline would be until after three months from now.

[X68N]

dont get me wrong i hold ANC too, but i think cryptsy has bigger problems than fixing their anc wallet
they are nearly bankcrupt so i am sure they think about that the most.

what did you made think they might work on it? any evidence?

[Tyke]

I am an author who writes books about cryptocurrency.  Please visit

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Chris-P.-Thompson/e/B00S5L3PVM/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

I have begun to write a book titled "Anoncoin - History of the First Year".  Here is the preliminary front cover of the book:



Anoncoin will also be in the second generic cryptocurrency book to be released in 1-2 years.  It will feature 50 crypto coins.  

[Cryptoslave]

I am an author who writes books about cryptocurrency.  Please visit

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Chris-P.-Thompson/e/B00S5L3PVM/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

I have begun to write a book titled "Anoncoin - History of the First Year".  Here is the preliminary front cover of the book:



Anoncoin will also be in the second generic cryptocurrency book to be released in 1-2 years.  It will feature 50 crypto coins.  

Cool!  

If you need any info just ask here or go on #anoncoin on the Irc2P network!

CS

[newb4now]

This forum is like a ghost town. There are no remaining BTC/ANC exchanges with reasonable liquidity.

BTC38 only offers CNY/ ANC now and not BTC/ANC

[CryptocurrencyNetwork]

I am an author who writes books about cryptocurrency.  Please visit

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Chris-P.-Thompson/e/B00S5L3PVM/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

I have begun to write a book titled "Anoncoin - History of the First Year".  Here is the preliminary front cover of the book:



Anoncoin will also be in the second generic cryptocurrency book to be released in 1-2 years.  It will feature 50 crypto coins.  

Nice work.

[Tyke]

I am an author who writes books about cryptocurrency.  Please visit

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Chris-P.-Thompson/e/B00S5L3PVM/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

I have begun to write a book titled "Anoncoin - History of the First Year".  Here is the preliminary front cover of the book:

Anoncoin will also be in the second generic cryptocurrency book to be released in 1-2 years.  It will feature 50 crypto coins.  

Cool!  

If you need any info just ask here or go on #anoncoin on the Irc2P network!

CS

Thank you.  I will definitely need help from the community as time progresses.  I have already written the draft pages for months June 2013 to November 2013 since the 3rd of February this year

[X68N]

I tried out the new Client and i am really supprised!

Fast Connections without messing with config files (9 Connections)
the History isn't so Huge like other Coins.
New Features (I2P + Tor), which gives ANC the real purpose to be anon.

great work,

[K1773R]

I tried out the new Client and i am really supprised!

Fast Connections without messing with config files (9 Connections)
the History isn't so Huge like other Coins.
New Features (I2P + Tor), which gives ANC the real purpose to be anon.

great work,

now the master question, do you use I2P?

[X68N]

why is I2p usage the master question?

I suggested to implement (I2p / Freenet) to ANC before ages (at v 0.7.x if i rember it correctly)
and i am happy that it become reality.

i have experience with i2p/Tor/Freenet and 4 other less known Networks.
At the moment i have other high priority issues so i did not tested the ANC I2p function, but i trust the dude before who posted it worked .

greetings

[entertheabyss]

I suggested to implement (I2p / Freenet) to ANC before ages (at v 0.7.x if i rember it correctly)
and i am happy that it become reality.

Lul wut? Anoncoin supported i2p since day 1, i'm waiting to see you dig up that quote.
Im glad you support anoncoin, but lets not say things that are not true

[K1773R]

why is I2p usage the master question?

I suggested to implement (I2p / Freenet) to ANC before ages (at v 0.7.x if i rember it correctly)
and i am happy that it become reality.

i have experience with i2p/Tor/Freenet and 4 other less known Networks.
At the moment i have other high priority issues so i did not tested the ANC I2p function, but i trust the dude before who posted it worked .

greetings

If you dont use I2P + ANC, then you arent serious about it. you know, those features are only good if people use them. yet another leecher i guess?