Official Anoncoin chat thread (including history)

[matthewh3]

At this point it looks like the 'cryptsy problem' was actually the 'anc problem'. Now k1ll3r or however the little retard spells his name will keep coming up with excuses or lame fixes.

Anoncoin was a good coin. It has been sabotaged from within by its own devs.

There are lots of highly competent groups working on anonymous coins and yet anc devs cling to the broken zerocoin that will deliver nothing even if it works as intended. Of course there are a legion of shills repeating endlessly 'hurrah for anc, its trustless, read the wiki' etc etc

fucking bunch of conmen

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stopthecensors has some undeniable arguments. Most of the recent investors like me lost a bunch of BTC. What's your point in being cynical?

Where to draw the line? What is gambling and what is investing when it comes to altcoins?

Most people who buy alt coins don't invest, they gamble. And those who loose more often then they win tend to be bad at it. But most people overestimate their own abilities and they also tend to be sore losers.

I've bought all my ANC at around 50k satoshi so I'm still good to cash out now and stop supporting this project.  I agree most of the people very upset here are not really investors they were gambling on speculation.  Hurling insults and trolling never solved anything.  Trolls usually do it for the attention only.  So he bought in high and had to sell low and he's blaming everyone but himself for the error and misjudgment.  No one in this thread sold any kind of investment or promise of price rises.  If you've been following the thread long enough or really done your homework.  You'd find this is not the first major delay Anoncoin has hit with the Zerocoin roadmap.  So this delay should have really been factored in to anyone's gambling plan.

What kind of disingenuous stupidity does it take to pretend you are 'investing' while others are 'speculating'?

Coins are highly speculative. Semantic games just show how manipulative some scumbags are.

Whether gambling, speculating or investing there is a bare minimum of ethical responsibility the house has toward clients.

There has been overwhelming evidence for quite some time that anc devs and some others outside the dev circle have not even an ethics roadmap. They are following some devious agenda at the expense of the public.

People like you mathew3 and fuckbuddy are the most disgusting. You call critics 'trolls' so you don't have to address their complaints. You and those like you are the scum who turned fiat to trash and now you are polluting crypto with your disease.

Zerocoin is fatally flawed. It is not suitable for use as an anonymizer. I have only a basic college education and I figured that out some time ago. It is not possible that every single anc dev as well as most of the people on this forum are below the intelligence threshold needed to see that. There is deliberate deception in promoting zc, some agenda.

Anc still is salvageable. It has a history and a following. Step one is to decide what the goal is.

Is the goal to sabotage the 'anonymous' brand? It sure as fuck looks that way.

I'm still up while you're obviously massively down and that seems to be difference.  I'm all for critical reviews but slander is just trolling for attention.  Hence probably my last reply to someone so desperate for attention.

[fuckbuddy]

If gnos1s would have missed the deadline as he did and as a result of that the price would by some miracle go up i bet you some anc that none of the douchebags would be here trolling about "scammer devs".

[stopthecensors]

Did you invest money in infrastructure and other resources essential for the development of anoncoin project? If not then who the fuck are you to demand "ethical responsibility" from devs? Devs have no accountability towards you whatsoever, nor legal nor moral. Your speculating is your own responsibility.

That is one of the stupidest comments I have seen anywhere in a long time.

I'm still up while you're obviously massively down and that seems to be difference.  I'm all for critical reviews but slander is just trolling for attention.  Hence probably my last reply to someone so desperate for attention.

Actually I sold the anc that I could access easily a few weeks ago and bought cannabiscoin which has done okay. I still have a few hundred anc though and consider it salvageable.

Unlike you and fuckbuddy, whose only purpose seems to be to stroke people who you think might benefit you, I am actually trying to benefit the coin by giving sound advice.

Zerocoin will not work. Either by design or by accident it is fatally flawed. The only way it would work is to design something completely different and call it zerocoin.

If gnosis would have missed the deadline as he did and as a result of that the price would by some miracle go up i bet you some anc that none of the douchbags would be here trolling about "scammer devs".

I have criticized the obvious problems with anc for a long time. It is hairless dogs like you that let the rot in this coin fester until it gets to this point. You only want to defend the status quo. Nothing should be questioned, no matter how absurd it is, so long as you are supporting whatever is the authority. People like you are poisonous friends and certainly toxic to the coins you contaminate with your polluted loyalty.

What would it take for you to criticize the decisions anc devs have made?

Is there any possible mistake they might make that you would criticize?

Or do you think that so long as you are loyal like a poodle everything will work out?

[matthewh3]

Newbie accounts trolling this thread again.  As soon as one newbie troll account is completely shown for who they are.  Another brand new newbie account comes on the attack.  Am I spotting a pattern here?  If so who's paying them or what's their real agenda?  Is their ungiving commitment really a truly benevolent effort to save netizens from the malicious Anoncoin devs or is it possibly that their motives may be altruistic.  It's always newbie throw away accounts in this pattern so I'll let the readers be the judge of that.

I'm unhappy for the recent delay but Gnosis has a new roadmap and seems committed to completing it so far.  This isn't the first time a major delay to the roadmap has happened so not entirely unexpected by long time lurkers of this thread.  Although implementing a trustless Zerocoin implementation is no easy feat.  Or someone else would have already done it.  With a trustless Zerocoin implementation seen as the true holy grail of transaction anonymity and all.

[Joshua.Dan]

  Stucked ANC at Cryptsy. If those information didn't broadcast, how can miner to work it out?

AnonCoin   AUxPkC1wvtLSzWYAVqjMns7awiCU9ko6ss   592.35006344 ANC   Yes   2014-10-20 04:37:34
Processed   TrxID: a40db5764f4639c23910239607082b6209e94031214defed7b95f312a3d17665 @ 2014-10-20 07:38:07
AnonCoin   AUxPkC1wvtLSzWYAVqjMns7awiCU9ko6ss   50.07866374 ANC   Yes   2014-10-20 01:15:50
Processed   TrxID: 277775f8b0ea3cec22ed414c322100efb3995823910705a1bb362a95fb47bb86 @ 2014-10-20 04:16:06

[Clyze]

Stucked ANC at Cryptsy. If those information didn't broadcast, how can miner to work it out?

AnonCoin   AUxPkC1wvtLSzWYAVqjMns7awiCU9ko6ss   592.35006344 ANC   Yes   2014-10-20 04:37:34
Processed   TrxID: a40db5764f4639c23910239607082b6209e94031214defed7b95f312a3d17665 @ 2014-10-20 07:38:07
AnonCoin   AUxPkC1wvtLSzWYAVqjMns7awiCU9ko6ss   50.07866374 ANC   Yes   2014-10-20 01:15:50
Processed   TrxID: 277775f8b0ea3cec22ed414c322100efb3995823910705a1bb362a95fb47bb86 @ 2014-10-20 04:16:06

Read through the thread and you will see.. I am not much of a specification guy, but the issue has been explained several times by K1773R and some other guys :-)

[Convicted2008]

3 goddamn days and still haven't received the Anon I sent to another site. WTF DEV's!! REALLY W T F.
Here's the TX..f828cece16138cd0db28818b8c315a68d92978f63942a48748aa4b35f14a0a4d

FIX THIS FUCKING SHIT. I MEAN REALLY WHAT IN THE FUCKING HELL,

Just for your information; this is not the first case this happened. There are a bunch of investors with stuck funds at the moment. There are two options for you;

1. You could try to contact the exchange (if you withdrew from an exchange?) and ask if they could cancel the transaction. (If you withdrew from your wallet, take a look a few pages back- there are some possible fixes for your withdrawal).

2. Wait untill your stuck transactions will be mined. There seems to be missing files in the pools which is the reason most tx get stuck. K1773R might mine your stuck transactions through after a while. The question is; we would not know when.

#HODL strong baby, if you want your coins ASAP I'd suggest to contact the exchange to cancel your tx. You could eventually sell, your coins then > transfer btc > buy at a different exchange. Or if you want to have your funds on your own wallet you might try to send the coins in smaller quantities, wait for them to go through, then send a new stack.

Hope this works....



Cheers,

Clyze (one that has had funds stuck for well over a week during a crucial period... which resulted in a 3 times less valued ANC)

You can't cancel with Cryptsy. I have asked them to :/

[lemonsieur1]

3 days cryptsy stuck, i can wait but my investment lost more than half of its value, and i still dont understand the cryptsy debacle.

[ntrn500]

At this point it looks like the 'cryptsy problem' was actually the 'anc problem'. Now k1ll3r or however the little retard spells his name will keep coming up with excuses or lame fixes.

Anoncoin was a good coin. It has been sabotaged from within by its own devs.

There are lots of highly competent groups working on anonymous coins and yet anc devs cling to the broken zerocoin that will deliver nothing even if it works as intended. Of course there are a legion of shills repeating endlessly 'hurrah for anc, its trustless, read the wiki' etc etc

fucking bunch of conmen

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stopthecensors has some undeniable arguments. Most of the recent investors like me lost a bunch of BTC. What's your point in being cynical?

Pushing buttons on exchanges doesn't make you an investor.  Gnos1s has no accountability towards speculators. Speculating on price fluctuations contributes zero to the zerocoin project development. Take your douchebaggery elswere - you and other goonbags clogging up the thread.

fucktard, did I address my question to you?

On your point - how do you call someone, who constantly breaks his promises? (Not once, not twice, and not for a week but for a year.)

Let's clear some terms:

Investor vs speculator
The assumption of risk in anticipation of gain but recognizing a higher than average possibility of loss. The term speculation implies that a business or investment risk can be analyzed and measured, and its distinction from the term Investment is one of degree of risk. It differs from gambling, which is based on random outcomes.

Now back to your favourite word: speculation. Given the progress of this project is a constant lie, what's the degree of risk? How come you are an investor and the others are speculators? fucktard.

[Gnosis-]

[...]
Zerocoin will not work. Either by design or by accident it is fatally flawed. The only way it would work is to design something completely different and call it zerocoin.
[...]

Why do trolls have to be so long on rhetoric and short on facts and evidence? You're just flat out claiming it won't work without any attempt to support that claim.

I can already see where this is going to go... you're going to reply with "evidence" and when people refute it, you'll just ignore it and move on to a different angle of attack.

[Joshua.Dan]

I just take a test for ANC withdrawal on BTC38.
It takes several minute and I found the transaction on Block chain.
Here is the picture. and the link: http://ancblockchain.com/address/ALQYJdkmqSBGfd5gU9zUBXWMLE3WmPX48F




Why cryptsy take so long time and nothing on the block chain.
I think cryptsy should response for this problem.

[K1773R]

I just take a test for ANC withdrawal on BTC38.
It takes several minute and I found the transaction on Block chain.
Here is the picture. and the link: http://ancblockchain.com/address/ALQYJdkmqSBGfd5gU9zUBXWMLE3WmPX48F




Why cryptsy take so long time and nothing on the block chain.
I think cryptsy should response for this problem.

thanks for posting this.

[drAGon925]

I just take a test for ANC withdrawal on BTC38.
It takes several minute and I found the transaction on Block chain.
Here is the picture. and the link: http://ancblockchain.com/address/ALQYJdkmqSBGfd5gU9zUBXWMLE3WmPX48F




Why cryptsy take so long time and nothing on the block chain.
I think cryptsy should response for this problem.

thanks for posting this.

I wrote that yesterday, and I'm happy to see one more success.

Someone with 5-10k ANC could make 1 more test.
If everything is ok, BTC38 is only and major exchange for ANC.
Already winning with volume, and price.

Thanks BTC38!!!

[Convicted2008]

Its pathetic is what it is. On whoevers part the problem is. Cryptsy or Anon. IDC. Its fucking shitty.

[Clyze]

3 goddamn days and still haven't received the Anon I sent to another site. WTF DEV's!! REALLY W T F.
Here's the TX..f828cece16138cd0db28818b8c315a68d92978f63942a48748aa4b35f14a0a4d

FIX THIS FUCKING SHIT. I MEAN REALLY WHAT IN THE FUCKING HELL,

Just for your information; this is not the first case this happened. There are a bunch of investors with stuck funds at the moment. There are two options for you;

1. You could try to contact the exchange (if you withdrew from an exchange?) and ask if they could cancel the transaction. (If you withdrew from your wallet, take a look a few pages back- there are some possible fixes for your withdrawal).

2. Wait untill your stuck transactions will be mined. There seems to be missing files in the pools which is the reason most tx get stuck. K1773R might mine your stuck transactions through after a while. The question is; we would not know when.

#HODL strong baby, if you want your coins ASAP I'd suggest to contact the exchange to cancel your tx. You could eventually sell, your coins then > transfer btc > buy at a different exchange. Or if you want to have your funds on your own wallet you might try to send the coins in smaller quantities, wait for them to go through, then send a new stack.

Hope this works....



Cheers,

Clyze (one that has had funds stuck for well over a week during a crucial period... which resulted in a 3 times less valued ANC)

You can't cancel with Cryptsy. I have asked them to :/

Then you know they don't want to. Bittrex cancelled my transaction after complaining and spamming them every day (3 tickets per day for 9 days consecutive...)

I suggest spam them all over the place, keep complaining. Use twitter if you need to.

[drAGon925]

Its pathetic is what it is. On whoevers part the problem is. Cryptsy or Anon. IDC. Its fucking shitty.

+100% right

it is shitty that we must go through all this!

[AnonCoinTwitter]

I was as disappointed as anyone with the recent ZeroCoin delays and prior communication but still have failth in Gnosis and Meeh to deliver.

My biggest concern is time. Others will eventually implement ZeroCoin (or another zero knowledge solution) and I want ANC to be first. Today a C++ developer messaged me offering to help (subject to some time constraints for the next few months) and I passed along the message to Meeh and Gnosis.

If anyone else can help with coding (Gnosis says that is the area he needs the most help as the math end is his strong suit) please be vocal about it.

If there is a long term, trusted community member prepared to hold donation funds in escrow please say something as well.  I have a feeling the community will prefer to donate on ZeroCoin release not in advance going forward.

[drAGon925]

@ Skaia,  

what is with your faucet and sites??

https://faucet.anoncoinbuy.com/
http://www.anoncoin.fr/
http://www.anoncoin.com.br/  EDIT: Or this one works??

 

[gnosiscameeh420]

I was as disappointed as anyone with the recent ZeroCoin delays and prior communication but still have failth in Gnosis and Meeh to deliver.

My biggest concern is time. Others will eventually implement ZeroCoin (or another zero knowledge solution) and I want ANC to be first. Today a C++ developer messaged me offering to help (subject to some time constraints for the next few months) and I passed along the message to Meeh and Gnosis.

If anyone else can help with coding (Gnosis says that is the area he needs the most help as the math end is his strong suit) please be vocal about it.

If there is a long term, trusted community member prepared to hold donation funds in escrow please say something as well.  I have a feeling the community will prefer to donate on ZeroCoin release not in advance going forward.

Are you serious
I can't believe that this coin still above $ 0.01
Congratulations to the faith in the promises, you sheep

[stopthecensors]

[...]
Zerocoin will not work. Either by design or by accident it is fatally flawed. The only way it would work is to design something completely different and call it zerocoin.
[...]

Why do trolls have to be so long on rhetoric and short on facts and evidence? You're just flat out claiming it won't work without any attempt to support that claim.

I can already see where this is going to go... you're going to reply with "evidence" and when people refute it, you'll just ignore it and move on to a different angle of attack.

The irony is staggering.