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October 29, 2014, 05:44:35 PM
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One more thing about 0.8.5 bug. In wallet.cpp after line 745 (AddSupportingTransactions part) you should add 3 more lines:

else
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because if there was no else continue statement it can stores empty transaction,but else continue will prevent invalid vtxPrev coming in the wallet and already existing empty transactions from transmitting.

Consequently it will protect nodes from being banned




Thank you so much thunderjet and GroundRod for looking over the code! Hopefully the two errors in the code you pointed out will solve the transaction issues and cryptsy will allow anc deposits and withdrawals again.  But why is our code based off of 0.8.5 instead of the more updated 0.9.3?

Meeh is working on switching to 0.9.3 Smiley

In the meantime, I fixed this in the master branch by finding the commits to Bitcoin that fixed this and cherry-picking them:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/commit/c93e385af816503f6cd2ff61353d12a9121a86b5
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/commit/de779467e43b4503f89d9b9ea063f745403b2528


thunderjet, is this what you had in mind?

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October 29, 2014, 06:31:03 PM
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Yes Gnosis that`s it .Meeh switching to 0.9.3 is much better and faster solution than finding error by error in the code.
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October 29, 2014, 06:38:56 PM
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Yes Gnosis that`s it .Switching to 0.9.3 is much better and faster solution than finding error by error in the code.

If this ends up being an ANC issue rather than a Cryptsy issue someone at Cryptsy deserves the most sincere apologies from the dev team. For months the dev team has blamed the exchange and used harsh words against them.
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October 29, 2014, 09:39:18 PM
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One more thing about 0.8.5 bug. In wallet.cpp after line 745 (AddSupportingTransactions part) you should add 3 more lines:

else
                {
                    continue;



because if there was no else continue statement it can stores empty transaction,but else continue will prevent invalid vtxPrev coming in the wallet and already existing empty transactions from transmitting.

Consequently it will protect nodes from being banned




Thank you so much thunderjet and GroundRod for looking over the code! Hopefully the two errors in the code you pointed out will solve the transaction issues and cryptsy will allow anc deposits and withdrawals again.  But why is our code based off of 0.8.5 instead of the more updated 0.9.3?

Meeh is working on switching to 0.9.3 Smiley

In the meantime, I fixed this in the master branch by finding the commits to Bitcoin that fixed this and cherry-picking them:
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/commit/c93e385af816503f6cd2ff61353d12a9121a86b5
https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/commit/de779467e43b4503f89d9b9ea063f745403b2528


thunderjet, is this what you had in mind?


That's great! Hopefully anc will be back on exchanges soon and the focus can go back to zerocoin.  What happened to the fork to AuxPoW myriad? Is Meeh still working on that or has that plan been postponed?
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October 29, 2014, 09:42:07 PM
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Sorry about quoting a troll but I am concerned by this chat log.  I thought Meeh has been working on an "imminent" hard fork for the past month or so but he doesn't even know how to spell myriad or what it even is?  What's been going on then?
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October 29, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
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Sorry about quoting a troll but I am concerned by this chat log.  I thought Meeh has been working on an "imminent" hard fork for the past month or so but he doesn't even know how to spell myriad or what it even is?  What's been going on then?

its a fucking tragedy, anoncoin is doomed. gtfo this thead please. leave it to us bag holders
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October 29, 2014, 11:53:04 PM
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Question: You are implementing Zerocoin. But from what? Zerocoin project was never finished, code does not exist? Or are you guys writing the code yourself, based of the Zerocoin white paper? Can you clarify? I made some ANC investments, but I need to have this clarified to be able to invest more.
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October 30, 2014, 12:29:41 AM
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Question: You are implementing Zerocoin. But from what? Zerocoin project was never finished, code does not exist? Or are you guys writing the code yourself, based of the Zerocoin white paper? Can you clarify? I made some ANC investments, but I need to have this clarified to be able to invest more.

They are borrowing the credibility of the zerocoin project.

Everything else, the actual code, is original work.

If you look through the project you will see it has terminal flaws. It is not meant to succeed.

Who it is that takes a coin with the Anonymous symbol and deliberately discredits it is a mystery.
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October 30, 2014, 12:30:35 AM
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its a fucking tragedy, anoncoin is doomed. gtfo this thead please. leave it to us bag holders



There's a huge difference between being a troll vs asking important questions when things go wrong.  If you want to blindly believe people then fine.

But I think it's important to know why the person in charge of implementing the "imminent" (dev's words) hardfork for myriad AuxPoW for the past month doesn't know what myriad AuxPoW is.  He said he would give an update in IRC but instead he asks "could someone check that maruyd coin or wtf it is".  That is a direct quote.

It has been a month of development and he is now just asking what it even is.  And you think I'm a troll for questioning what is going on? I'm just using common sense.

How can he be developing something he doesn’t even know about?
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October 30, 2014, 07:01:16 AM
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Question: You are implementing Zerocoin. But from what? Zerocoin project was never finished, code does not exist? Or are you guys writing the code yourself, based of the Zerocoin white paper? Can you clarify? I made some ANC investments, but I need to have this clarified to be able to invest more.

The Zerocoin project was partially finished in the sense that researchers at JHU wrote a library called libzerocoin last year. I have used libzerocoin as a starting point though of course the white paper was essential for understanding it.

So far I have fixed bugs in libzerocoin (including a couple of very critical ones), and adapted it to support RSA UFOs (read the wiki page to see why it is necessary). This is all complete. The remaining work is to integrate libzerocoin into the Anoncoin wallet software, and this is currently in progress. All public commits are in https://github.com/Anoncoin/anoncoin/tree/zc though I am continuing development privately to avoid copy-cat coins.

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October 30, 2014, 05:23:48 PM
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entertheabyss is another troll created to discredit Anoncoin


People need to understand the hierarchy and scope of the trolls infesting anc.

1) Through collusion, subversion or other means they own at least two anc devs apparently.
2) There are at least four full time people working on developing this scam.
3) A lot of money has been invested in suppressing the price. This was first done with throwaway miners. Most miners immediately sell an average of ~90% of the coins the mine. By cornering mining activities the anc manipulatiors are able to keep the price low yet still maintain longterm control when the price rises.
4) Almost certainly their plan involves several phases, each of which will feature an artificial price run up followed by a crash and increasing loss of confidence in the anc brand.
5) It still is not clear whether the group is a government entity trying to push people toward government created algorithms which have backdoors, like cryptonote, or if it is a private group of profiteers.

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October 30, 2014, 05:39:55 PM
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entertheabyss is another troll created to discredit Anoncoin


People need to understand the hierarchy and scope of the trolls infesting anc.

1) Through collusion, subversion or other means they own at least two anc devs apparently.
2) There are at least four full time people working on developing this scam.
3) A lot of money has been invested in suppressing the price. This was first done with throwaway miners. Most miners immediately sell an average of ~90% of the coins the mine. By cornering mining activities the anc manipulatiors are able to keep the price low yet still maintain longterm control when the price rises.
4) Almost certainly their plan involves several phases, each of which will feature an artificial price run up followed by a crash and increasing loss of confidence in the anc brand.
5) It still is not clear whether the group is a government entity trying to push people toward government created algorithms which have backdoors, like cryptonote, or if it is a private group of profiteers.




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October 30, 2014, 09:04:10 PM
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Finally you act like a real troll.

Marica you're the first commenter I see in BCT calling one of the coin devs a troll - congrats!

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October 30, 2014, 09:47:58 PM
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The likelihood that a few trolls will kill themselves when anoncoin succeed makes it even more worthwhile to follow this thread.
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October 30, 2014, 10:32:31 PM
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The likelihood that a few trolls will kill themselves when anoncoin succeed makes it even more worthwhile to follow this thread.

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October 31, 2014, 12:01:24 AM
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Current Status (including past) on Craptsy

- They created non-standard transactions (bigger than 100KB)
- I mined their transactions for free, for quite some time.
- They have stolen ~0.9 BTC in the meantime from me in a "waiting game".
- They fail to broadcast transcations, offered them to mine those transactions, if they send me the raw transaction.
- Craptsy (or anyone else) never gave me with a raw transaction to mine.

Hence im now done with craptsy. No more mining of their non-standard transaction.
Tickets on issues are just closed, blatantly ignored or im told "its in process/your on a list", tough there's nothing that needs weeks of work (its just a missing withdrawal).
Unless this gets resolved, i wont help craptsy nor anyone who uses it again (including myself of course).

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BTC/DVC/TRC/FRC: 1K1773RbXRZVRQSSXe9N6N2MUFERvrdu6y ANC/XPM AK1773RTmRKtvbKBCrUu95UQg5iegrqyeA NMC: NK1773Rzv8b4ugmCgX789PbjewA9fL9Dy1 LTC: LKi773RBuPepQH8E6Zb1ponoCvgbU7hHmd EMC: EK1773RxUes1HX1YAGMZ1xVYBBRUCqfDoF BQC: bK1773R1APJz4yTgRkmdKQhjhiMyQpJgfN
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October 31, 2014, 12:42:47 AM
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Current Status (including past) on Craptsy

- They created non-standard transactions (bigger than 100KB)
- I mined their transactions for free, for quite some time.
- They have stolen ~0.9 BTC in the meantime from me in a "waiting game".
- They fail to broadcast transcations, offered them to mine those transactions, if they send me the raw transaction.
- Craptsy (or anyone else) never gave me with a raw transaction to mine.

Hence im now done with craptsy. No more mining of their non-standard transaction.
Tickets on issues are just closed, blatantly ignored or im told "its in process/your on a list", tough there's nothing that needs weeks of work (its just a missing withdrawal).
Unless this gets resolved, i wont help craptsy nor anyone who uses it again (including myself of course).

Here here! Pull ANC from Cryptsy! And Bleutrade! Pull it from everywhere! None of them even deserves it...


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Forgive my petulance and oft-times, I fear, ill-founded criticisms, and forgive me that I have, by this time, made your eyes and head ache with my long letter. But I cannot forgo hastily the pleasure and pride of thus conversing with you.
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October 31, 2014, 12:47:37 AM
Last edit: October 31, 2014, 01:16:57 AM by BitcoinSoup
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~conspiracy cartoon~

re 911 Are all of these generals and diplomats wrong?
re conspiracies that turned out to be true http://www.infowars.com/33-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true-what-every-person-should-know/

As far as conspiracy theories involving the U.S. govt, almost all of them have turned out to be true. Defenders of the govt point to the few dozen people who question the moon landing. In fact that has become the easiest way to identify govertnment shills. They try to confuse the moon landing hoaxers with genuine critics.

All those hundreds of thousands of Americans sent to vietnam as the govertnment is promising the tonkin incident was genuine. Conspiracy theorists turned out to be right. Tell it to 58,000 dead americans and 500,000+ dead vietnamese.

And who in America could forget that crying girl played over and over on tv, every channel, who told Congress how Iraqi soldiers were ripping newborns out of incubators in Kuwait? Turned out she was actually the daughter of the ambassador, hired by a pr agency coordinated with the cia.

Every single war since wwii has been the same.

And now cryptocurrencies. The biggest financial gamechanger since the federal reserve. And what, governments are ignoring it? Look at cryptonote. It uses exactly the same type of promoting style as only has been used by governments.

It is useful to know that the dev working on the supposed zc algo for anc is a defender of the govt version of 911 anyway.

Some more reading for anyone interested.
Here is a 2 page summary of 911 news http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/9-11-timeline
Here is a 10 page summary [url http://www.wanttoknow.info/911/9-11-facts [/url]
Longer summaries at http://www.wanttoknow.info/911information#911summaries
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October 31, 2014, 01:03:38 AM
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Current Status (including past) on Craptsy

- They created non-standard transactions (bigger than 100KB)
- I mined their transactions for free, for quite some time.
- They have stolen ~0.9 BTC in the meantime from me in a "waiting game".
- They fail to broadcast transcations, offered them to mine those transactions, if they send me the raw transaction.
- Craptsy (or anyone else) never gave me with a raw transaction to mine.

Hence im now done with craptsy. No more mining of their non-standard transaction.
Tickets on issues are just closed, blatantly ignored or im told "its in process/your on a list", tough there's nothing that needs weeks of work (its just a missing withdrawal).
Unless this gets resolved, i wont help craptsy nor anyone who uses it again (including myself of course).

Here here! Pull ANC from Cryptsy! And Bleutrade! Pull it from everywhere! None of them even deserves it...


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It only needs to remove the "coin" of "Anoncoin" Grin

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October 31, 2014, 02:39:51 AM
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Current Status (including past) on Craptsy

- They created non-standard transactions (bigger than 100KB)
- I mined their transactions for free, for quite some time.
- They have stolen ~0.9 BTC in the meantime from me in a "waiting game".
- They fail to broadcast transcations, offered them to mine those transactions, if they send me the raw transaction.
- Craptsy (or anyone else) never gave me with a raw transaction to mine.

Hence im now done with craptsy. No more mining of their non-standard transaction.
Tickets on issues are just closed, blatantly ignored or im told "its in process/your on a list", tough there's nothing that needs weeks of work (its just a missing withdrawal).
Unless this gets resolved, i wont help craptsy nor anyone who uses it again (including myself of course).

This is ridiculous.  It is clearly not a Cryptsy problem as Mullick has explained multiple times.  Not only that, but there have been bugs found in the anc code and other exchanges have been having the same problem as cryptsy.  Even users of the qt desktop client are having the same problems!

The devs need to stop blaming this on cryptsy but instead work to solve the problem.

Also, if someone could update the community on meeh's progress with myriad AuxPoW it would be great.  As I pointed out before, he was supposed to be working on this for the past month but recently asked in IRC what myriad is.  This is very concerning and a confirmation that we are actually still planning a hardfork would be great.

Also just a thought but instead of giving deadlines which are hard to meet maybe there could be a weekly or biweekly newsletter in which the devs give updates on their progress.  That's what the storj devs have been doing and it's been working great and no one gets upset about any deadlines.
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