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[niteglider]

Anoncoin progress report

I would like to give a quick update on some of the progress that has been made with Anoncoin in the past week.

I am unwilling to give estimates at this time for the release dates given the missed deadlines that we have all been subjected to in the past. As soon as I have a "hard" estimate, I will be certain to let you know.

It will be very interesting to see what comes of this.  I hope it goes well and quickly.

[AnonCoinTwitter]

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/534233958687723520

Update from the (zero knowledge) competition

[AnonCoinTwitter]

Anoncoin progress report

I would like to give a quick update on some of the progress that has been made with Anoncoin in the past week.

First, we have put together a development schedule that is now online at the Anoncoin wiki. In short, we are planning three releases, which will require two hard forks.

The first release (release A) aims primarily to

• update the code base to bitcoin 0.9.3,
• fix the KGW difficulty algorithm,
• implement multiPOW with three chains (sha-256, scrypt, and the primecoin algorithm), with each allowing merged mining,
• add DNS/I2P seed nodes, and
• switch from I2P to I2Pd (though still routing traffic through the SAM bridge).

The biggest change will be the change in the mining algorithm. The idea is to use several different proof-of-work algorithms, similar to what was first started by Myriadcoin. In this model, each algorithm will only create one-third of the blocks, making a 51% attack almost impossible (the attacker would need to control two of the algorithms, not just one). Furthermore, in order to not be at the mercy of mining pools, which join and leave the network at irregular intervals giving rise to large spikes in the hash rate, each of these three POW chains will allow for merged mining. This means that anyone who is already mining scrypt (for example), will be able to mine Anoncoin with no additional work. We are open to comments from the community about these changes. The choice in the three mining algorithms was done by consensus, and this could be changed if there is a good reason.

I should note that there is a potential drawback to merged mining, which is that people who normally wouldn't mine Anoncoin will all of a sudden be able to get ANC for "free". These miners will almost certainly dump these coins, and this will lead to a downward pressure on the ANC price (though I should note that the price of Dogecoin increased after they implemented merged mining). This will partially be mitigated by the fact that the 5 ANC block reward will halve to 2.5 in about 2.5 months time. We had some discussions about changing the time that the block reward halved, but most of us think that it would be a bad idea to modify this.

Following this initial release, we plan on two other releases. Release B will be a cosmetic update, and will include a built in I2Pd router. Release C will include support for Zerocoin, and will require a second hard fork. Depending on how zerocoin progresses, the release time of B and C could be switched.

We have already hardcoded two DNS seed nodes, as well as a couple I2P seed nodes. Though two DNS seeders are probably enough, we would be happy to add additional ones.

I am unwilling to give estimates at this time for the release dates given the missed deadlines that we have all been subjected to in the past. As soon as I have a "hard" estimate, I will be certain to let you know.

Great update. I like your plan!

[CarlosFromAcuapulco]

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/534233958687723520

Update from the (zero knowledge) competition

AnoncoinTwitter
SDC has beaten ANC to become the first to reach public beta with a zero knowledge.

Meeh should learn with SDC devs!

[fuckbuddy]

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/534233958687723520

Update from the (zero knowledge) competition

Please elaborate...

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/534233958687723520

Update from the (zero knowledge) competition

AnoncoinTwitter
SDC has beaten ANC to become the first to reach public beta with a zero knowledge.

Meeh should learn with SDC devs!

Why do you care so much about ANC, its future prospects and its devs? Obviously you think ANC is total failure, move on with your life then.

[dewdeded]

Cliff notes? Any dates/roadmap?

[keystroke]

I wrote this up in response to one of the Anoncoin bounties : https://ihb.io/2014-11-17/news/anonymity-block-chain-13570

Comments appreciated.

[BroTroxer]

I wrote this up in response to one of the Anoncoin bounties : https://ihb.io/2014-11-17/news/anonymity-block-chain-13570

Comments appreciated.

Awesome

Please retry your trolling. Correct url is ihb.io, not hb.io. The result is roughly the same though.

[FritjofKrappuh]

Anoncoin progress report

In this model, each algorithm will only create one-third of the blocks, making a 51% attack almost impossible (the attacker would need to control two of the algorithms, not just one).

So anoncoin is safe at last. http://www.martyink.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Sweating-WipingBrow-Overheated-200pxl.jpg

[AnonCoinTwitter]

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/534233958687723520

Update from the (zero knowledge) competition

Please elaborate...

https://twitter.com/AnoncoinTeam/status/534233958687723520

Update from the (zero knowledge) competition

AnoncoinTwitter
SDC has beaten ANC to become the first to reach public beta with a zero knowledge.

Meeh should learn with SDC devs!

Why do you care so much about ANC, its future prospects and its devs? Obviously you think ANC is total failure, move on with your life then.

I still believe in ANC!

I just made that Tweet because I thought it was important to note that our competition is making progress so we cant assume that continued delays will be accepted by the market. At some point a proven zero knowledge solution will capture market share. ANC needs to act quickly.

I am happy with the current ANC dev roadmap. I trust that progress will be made..... I just hope it comes faster than in the past.

[ancGame0ver]

I trust that progress will be made..... I just hope it comes faster than in the past.

During this time ...
https://i.imgur.com/Ec9P3KP.jpg

[dewdeded]

How many core-dev ANC has?

[FritjofKrappuh]

If you put the anon back in anoncoin, full guy falkes with no gloves, anc will be at us$10 in a short time.

It doesn't even need to play the phony "bitcoin isn't anonymous" game.

But if you keep the present course of trying to outdildo the other dildo coins, it will keep crashing.

[tomothy]

I like the current total coin supply of SDC; reminds me of Drk. I've heard good things about dogedarkcoin too or something right? lol. They all look so 'promising.' What's this ZeroKnowledge? Sounds like a re-working of 'zerocoin.' Any evidence that it works? I like pseudo anonymous coins promising anonymity yet continuously failing to deliver; or better yet, drastic increases and crashes in price. Although anoncoin is clearly dead, it's surprising how much trolling still takes place here. Not a threat, just beating a dead coin, right, interesting. That's why the price continues to drop, we have a new PR person, and there is an established strategic plan to continue development and implementation of the proposed road map. Let's see what happens in a year.

[An0nj0k3]

I like the current total coin supply of SDC; reminds me of Drk. I've heard good things about dogedarkcoin too or something right? lol. They all look so 'promising.' What's this ZeroKnowledge? Sounds like a re-working of 'zerocoin.' Any evidence that it works? I like pseudo anonymous coins promising anonymity yet continuously failing to deliver; or better yet, drastic increases and crashes in price. Although anoncoin is clearly dead, it's surprising how much trolling still takes place here. Not a threat, just beating a dead coin, right, interesting. That's why the price continues to drop, we have a new PR person, and there is an established strategic plan to continue development and implementation of the proposed road map. Let's see what happens in a year.

http://www.troll.me/images2/the-walking-dead/oh-your-a-fan-of-the-walking-dead-tell-me-more-about-how-you-knew-it-is-based-on-a-graphic-novel.jpg

[lunokhod2]

How many core-dev ANC has?

Hi Dewdeded,

A description of the development team can be found here: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team

In short, Meeh is the lead developer who is leading our upgrade to 0.9.3, MMauxPow, and i2pd. Meeh is active in development, but is also working on i2pd. Working a full time job, his progress is not as fast as many would like. Gnosis is the lead developer of Zerocoin. Though he has made a lot of progress over the past few months, he is now again working a full time job. It will probably be another month until he starts working on this again. K1773R is the lead for all things concerning mining and security. He is active, but does not contribute much to the coding aspects. Cryptoslave and myself are working with the wiki, website, organization, documentation, etc. We are limited by the progress made by the principal coders.

Hope this clarifies things for you. To speed things up, we would need someone else to help in the code development.

Cheers,

[AnonCoinTwitter]

How many core-dev ANC has?

Hi Dewdeded,

A description of the development team can be found here: https://wiki.anoncoin.net/Anoncoin_development_team

In short, Meeh is the lead developer who is leading our upgrade to 0.9.3, MMauxPow, and i2pd. Meeh is active in development, but is also working on i2pd. Working a full time job, his progress is not as fast as many would like. Gnosis is the lead developer of Zerocoin. Though he has made a lot of progress over the past few months, he is now again working a full time job. It will probably be another month until he starts working on this again. K1773R is the lead for all things concerning mining and security. He is active, but does not contribute much to the coding aspects. Cryptoslave and myself are working with the wiki, website, organization, documentation, etc. We are limited by the progress made by the principal coders.

Hope this clarifies things for you. To speed things up, we would need someone else to help in the code development.

Cheers,

It would be great if we found some more coders to help! I would be willing to contribute some BTC for the right person upon delivery of measurable results (code in GitHub)

[SmokingSkull]

It would be great if we found some more coders to help! I would be willing to contribute some BTC for the right person upon delivery of measurable results (code in GitHub)

Don't do it - The Kozi also supported Gnosis, and I'm sure he did it because he hoped ZC was ready by then. That's what they let us believe.


So I sum this up

Meeh - Not really working on Anoncoin right now - I2Pd more important
Gnosis - Not really working Anoncoin, job, time, blablabla
K1773R - Not working on Anoncoin at all

Luno/Cryptoslave - Not good coders, not working on code.

So I ask - Why does Anoncoin still exist?
What are developers good for If they don't work on the Core?


I'm pretty sure it will take much longer than 1 month for those Developers to get out a update that is overdue for so many many months.

[ancGame0ver]

Our dear good boy Meeh

I know him from when he was younger,but I see that has stayed the same and even worsened the condition. Promise from the beginning,with less and less enthusiasm.
You do not know what is your ZC dev doing.
You don't know him.
You do not follow the market.
You became a drug addict,sleep is your priority,you're probably replaced the drugs with sleeping pills and tranquilizers.

What ANC can do is wait for a miracle someone to take your broken coin, and fix it if possible.
You evan didn't know to calculate the total supply.

Programmers were all leaving ANC, JackOfAll, Brotroxer.K1773R just shitting on the forum.In addition to the main web page where it says he is dev,can't be seen anywhere that he is the developer of the ANC.
PR has gone out from the beginning.You don't need PR,because you need not fuss about organized theft of people.
The truth is,that is just a strategy what makes ANC holders belive that you are REAL anonlover,don't need PR,don't need price for your coin.

Today we see your coin don't need blockchain.
Problems are very old, not just last few weeks.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg5610837#msg5610837

Yes,this is theft,fraud,scam.
You tricked many investors,and thank goodness of crypto that I too appreciate my BTC.
I am not convince to buy your shit.

Picked money along with the major miners like K1773R and the partners at the end of 2013,you stood on the ball and watched still no plan to cheat,after that,out there is a solid work with the ZC,which you tried to use it.

The testnet in March, May, September!
Gnosis's try to get donation one time
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg6366123#msg6366123
Fail

You show up stronger than ever,gnosis is not answering,you taking over the project.
This opens a collaboration with XMR,answering how on ZC started working with the new guy, Original.
After a couple of days returns gnosis in game.
He is more active on the forum.Flying around with the legendary members and sheep support in pumping.
New robbery comes.

Second time he was smarter with his partner ,get donations and pump the price after that.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg8811344#msg8811344

Next was this
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg9148128#msg9148128

Delay 7 days just 1 day before?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg9203978#msg9203978

New Delay for 2-3 months?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.msg9259153#msg9259153


Meeh,are you saying that you still know nothing?
When will you stop the bullshit meeh?
When will this stop? The sheep follow your shit and try to get more sheep in game?

These are just indicative of the fact. I've been waiting for you here last days for details.

ANC is game over.

Good conclusion of the situation to avoid new people get scammed by these guys.

[SmokingSkull]

I agree.

As tweeted today - I don't recommend buying Anoncoin

Reasons:
-Dev team seem to set their priorities differently -> to i2pd, not anoncoin itsself
-Dev team delayed "Zerocoin implementation" for 3 months 1 day short notice - after delaying it 1 week before.
-No new release recently
-Diff Algo fucked up

I know some would like to see Anoncoin being revived or something, with Cryptolover and Luno as the heads and Meeh/Gnosis as the Coders, but no Core coding seems to be going on, in addition since Gnosis supposedly has a job now after 2 months of hardcore coding with support of TheKozi, ZC will surely delay not 3 months but most certainly 6 months or much more ... if ever!


Sorry to say this, because I was sooo keen on Anoncoin, I liked the image and the developers, but for a community it's too much to take - that's why most people have left here not supporting the network, not setting up i2p nodes, not mining non-profit, not contribute.


The current structure in the Team maybe fine, but if the Developers don't code, it's no use to be hopeful. We all know what Anoncoin needs to gain attraction, but it will never get it without proper coding and Developers


In my view, it was a waste of time here in the Anoncoin community. Since 2013 I followed most steps for nothing.
I don't want to give Anoncoin the "Scam"-Stamp, but I certainly give it "Caveat Emptor" Similar to the ones being on the OTCBB