[ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure

[nobytes]

I think this will be a good info for people who bought using a credit card.

Yesterday I have read on Telegram that somebody got chargeback lately from Visa. So there is still chance even if you purchased ENV tokens with your CC. This person claimed that Finma case is enough reason for the bank to give back the money. So if they ask why just tell that they are scammers and already Finma has started a case against them and you should get your money back which is great, I think.

Plastic still fantastic as we see.

I think i saw something about that too... There are lot's of good sides on using fiat money and banks that cryptocurrency enthusiasts sometimes overlooking.

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[Alex_Zi]

Not clever team and not exclusive poject now. And where is tokens tradable? It's looks like joke, but they still didn't sent me bounty tokens!
Why? I think it's just a human greed(((

[Matdog]

Not clever team and not exclusive poject now. And where is tokens tradable? It's looks like joke, but they still didn't sent me bounty tokens!
Why? I think it's just a human greed(((

don't to cry, it has become our risk as a bounty hunter, Envion was predicted to be a Top ICO, and indeed they have already got 117 million USD,
unfortunately Envion ended up very sad and already scam

[nobytes]

Not clever team and not exclusive poject now. And where is tokens tradable? It's looks like joke, but they still didn't sent me bounty tokens!
Why? I think it's just a human greed(((

Read about it, they can't do it now as they are being investigated by Finma. To be quite frank, i don't think you invest much of your time if you haven't been even bothered to  follow the case.

[dr.cheema]

Not clever team and not exclusive poject now. And where is tokens tradable? It's looks like joke, but they still didn't sent me bounty tokens!
Why? I think it's just a human greed(((

But CEO of envion is very clever, project is dead in my opinion because removed from HitBTC exchange and disappear very soon.
I don't think bounty hunters will get reward, check price on CMC 1$ to *0.03$ . Big lesson for crypto investors.  

[Ukraine2020]

For investors, all is not lost

Read one of the latest articles in German:

Auf den steilen Aufstieg der Envion AG folgte der schnelle Abstieg. Was bedeutet das für die Anleger? - https://www.inar.de/auf-den-steilen-aufstieg-der-envion-ag-folgte-der-schnelle-abstieg-was-bedeutet-das-fuer-die-anleger/

On the steep climb of the Envion AG followed the rapid descent. What does this mean for investors?

Is the liquidation of Envion AG imminent? What does a liquidation mean for investors from the ICO?

Investors of the ICO can secure access to existing assets by claiming damages. - Additional investor lawsuits filed against the prospect holders of the Envion ICO in front of the LG Berlin

[Zontop]

Nothing means for investors this liquidation since they are from all over the world. It is always a lengthy and full of headache process to recover your funds. I have no hope that everyone will see his/her money back. They still will remain with lot of money in hands. Even if they release tokens now to those helped them get over $100 millions has no value without support and usage anymore.

[Ukraine2020]

With the ICO Envion has sold 86 million tokens. Many of them with discounts. At a price of an average of 80 cents, a volume of $ 68 million is expected. The difference between deposits and existing values ​​is about $ 8 million. Accordingly, investors can assume that a large part of their deposits still exists. That's the good news.

The bad thing is that there are even more tokens whose legal claims are unclear. Investor-signed tokens should include 5 percent of Envion itself, 10 percent compensation to founders, and 2 percent advertising to Blogger and others. Another 12.6 million tokens were placed as part of a pre-sale with larger discounts. The management accuses the founders of having created additional tokens without authorization. It is undisputed: Thanks to favorable prices, values ​​of around 100 million dollars were temporarily available.

Now threatens liquidation

The PWC and BDP auditors both refused to step in as auditors of Envion because they did not have access to ICO data. Without data, the suspicion of fraudulent manipulation can not be dispelled. The founders confirm that they have retained data to prevent hostile takeover by senior management.

Without auditors, there is an organ deficiency. So the placement of the tokens would only be allowed with a banking license. The suspicion of a missing permit is also the reason why Finma has intervened. Now there are three options: First, obtain a banking license, which is unrealistic, simply because of the lengthy procedure. Secondly, use an auditors - the necessary solution to the blockade, however, does not stand out. And third, the liquidation.

Due to the lack of organs, the Zug Commercial Register Office has already made representations to the cantonal court Zug. The court set Envion a deadline to appoint an auditor. This expired on September 13th. The court will soon decide on the liquidation. According to authorities, this is a formality if no solution has been found. If another four-week deadline expires unused, the Konkursamt Zug is charged with liquidating Envion AG. (Editors Tamedia)

Quote from https://www.bernerzeitung.ch/wirtschaft/unternehmen-und-konjunktur/Angeschlagenes-BlockchainStartup-kann-Anlegern-Geld-zurueckzahlen/story/24701692

[Ukraine2020]

Nothing means for investors this liquidation since they are from all over the world. It is always a lengthy and full of headache process to recover your funds. I have no hope that everyone will see his/her money back. They still will remain with lot of money in hands. Even if they release tokens now to those helped them get over $100 millions has no value without support and usage anymore.

I think the best option is to obtain a banking license and the start of work on the production of containers.

The market will rise soon. Everyone will win.

Otherwise - a headache for the organizers of the project in the form of a prison and a headache for investors in the form of loss of funds.

Still possible.

[Hullo]

If they were already established business and were producing money from mining containers in that case it was lot more easier to control the company to give it under new management. I understand your point of view but installing mining equipment and controlling the project is not solution anymore. It is too complicated to give happy ending. Without fresh capital project will not see success and who will dare to put money in a project which was rolling in courts. There is no chance of recovery for this project anymore.

[Ukraine2020]

If they were already established business and were producing money from mining containers in that case it was lot more easier to control the company to give it under new management. I understand your point of view but installing mining equipment and controlling the project is not solution anymore. It is too complicated to give happy ending. Without fresh capital project will not see success and who will dare to put money in a project which was rolling in courts. There is no chance of recovery for this project anymore.

Maybe.
But!
It is precisely because no one wants to give the money to the same team again, if the idea is profitable, it is important to start production right now. And then investors will see that the project has passed the test.

After all, the return of money anyway, so far, no.

[Nemonemo]

If they were already established business and were producing money from mining containers in that case it was lot more easier to control the company to give it under new management. I understand your point of view but installing mining equipment and controlling the project is not solution anymore. It is too complicated to give happy ending. Without fresh capital project will not see success and who will dare to put money in a project which was rolling in courts. There is no chance of recovery for this project anymore.

Maybe.
But!
It is precisely because no one wants to give the money to the same team again, if the idea is profitable, it is important to start production right now. And then investors will see that the project has passed the test.

After all, the return of money anyway, so far, no.

why do you expect your money to come back from this scam project? indeed the Envion tokens themselves have not been removed from the exchange, but Envion might not be able to develop in the future, leave Envion and invest in top 100 project

[dishku]

I also think it is just dreaming with open to keep hope our funds will get refund there is still no progress made in this direction and nobody want to make update the community what is their plan and how this will happen. It was planned robbery even the whole team is aware of this situation but they put everything on the founder and after this nothing.

[nobytes]

I also think it is just dreaming with open to keep hope our funds will get refund there is still no progress made in this direction and nobody want to make update the community what is their plan and how this will happen. It was planned robbery even the whole team is aware of this situation but they put everything on the founder and after this nothing.

Maybe you should contact Finma directly if you want to know how the things are proceeding... They are in control and if they are not replying, it has nothing to do with the team.

[Digitelow]

I also think it is just dreaming with open to keep hope our funds will get refund there is still no progress made in this direction and nobody want to make update the community what is their plan and how this will happen. It was planned robbery even the whole team is aware of this situation but they put everything on the founder and after this nothing.

Maybe you should contact Finma directly if you want to know how the things are proceeding... They are in control and if they are not replying, it has nothing to do with the team.

Forget this project envion and move on from this scammer, if you have been trapped,make this a lesson, I myself have also experienced something like this when the Titanium Project case, the funds are not returned

[dr.cheema]

I also think it is just dreaming with open to keep hope our funds will get refund there is still no progress made in this direction and nobody want to make update the community what is their plan and how this will happen. It was planned robbery even the whole team is aware of this situation but they put everything on the founder and after this nothing.

Maybe you should contact Finma directly if you want to know how the things are proceeding... They are in control and if they are not replying, it has nothing to do with the team.

Forget this project envion and move on from this scammer, if you have been trapped,make this a lesson, I myself have also experienced something like this when the Titanium Project case, the funds are not returned

You are right we should move on from this scam project. this is a big lesson for us.
I have also experienced with Clout project, Clout Scammed and run with investors money. 

[mehar_gee]

If they were already established business and were producing money from mining containers in that case it was lot more easier to control the company to give it under new management. I understand your point of view but installing mining equipment and controlling the project is not solution anymore. It is too complicated to give happy ending. Without fresh capital project will not see success and who will dare to put money in a project which was rolling in courts. There is no chance of recovery for this project anymore.

Maybe.
But!
It is precisely because no one wants to give the money to the same team again, if the idea is profitable, it is important to start production right now. And then investors will see that the project has passed the test.

After all, the return of money anyway, so far, no.

why do you expect your money to come back from this scam project? indeed the Envion tokens themselves have not been removed from the exchange, but Envion might not be able to develop in the future, leave Envion and invest in top 100 project

we have to wait for future announcements but for now its good to forget about this project and the money we invest in at the time of its ICO and better concentrate on other project with successful ICO and have great potential because right now the prices are down and invest in good crypto project could be worth great profit in future

[xialan_lu]

If they were already established business and were producing money from mining containers in that case it was lot more easier to control the company to give it under new management. I understand your point of view but installing mining equipment and controlling the project is not solution anymore. It is too complicated to give happy ending. Without fresh capital project will not see success and who will dare to put money in a project which was rolling in courts. There is no chance of recovery for this project anymore.

Maybe.
But!
It is precisely because no one wants to give the money to the same team again, if the idea is profitable, it is important to start production right now. And then investors will see that the project has passed the test.

After all, the return of money anyway, so far, no.

why do you expect your money to come back from this scam project? indeed the Envion tokens themselves have not been removed from the exchange, but Envion might not be able to develop in the future, leave Envion and invest in top 100 project

we have to wait for future announcements but for now its good to forget about this project and the money we invest in at the time of its ICO and better concentrate on other project with successful ICO and have great potential because right now the prices are down and invest in good crypto project could be worth great profit in future

yes you are right, it's better like that, rather than waiting for long to uncertain results. But I think this takes time to move on, because it's very difficult to forget something very sad
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[btcyoda]

If they were already established business and were producing money from mining containers in that case it was lot more easier to control the company to give it under new management. I understand your point of view but installing mining equipment and controlling the project is not solution anymore. It is too complicated to give happy ending. Without fresh capital project will not see success and who will dare to put money in a project which was rolling in courts. There is no chance of recovery for this project anymore.

Maybe.
But!
It is precisely because no one wants to give the money to the same team again, if the idea is profitable, it is important to start production right now. And then investors will see that the project has passed the test.

After all, the return of money anyway, so far, no.

why do you expect your money to come back from this scam project? indeed the Envion tokens themselves have not been removed from the exchange, but Envion might not be able to develop in the future, leave Envion and invest in top 100 project

Yes, i don't many people are supporting this fake project, even we are not getting any proper updates from the team whether they are having issues, at least they need to share with the community otherwise how can community trust them.

[MiBambino]

If they were already established business and were producing money from mining containers in that case it was lot more easier to control the company to give it under new management. I understand your point of view but installing mining equipment and controlling the project is not solution anymore. It is too complicated to give happy ending. Without fresh capital project will not see success and who will dare to put money in a project which was rolling in courts. There is no chance of recovery for this project anymore.

even with new capital, they've got so much debt because of legal fees and insurance that it would take a miracle to make it work. Also, with cloud and fog mining growing daily, traditional miners will no longer be profitable in a year or two