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[vahtis]

I checked out the PoG guide

I believe I need to set tithe=1 in the config file to activate PoG

Q: How do I set the tithe amount to the daily amount I wish to give?

TIA
PM

There is no such feature at the moment. Using some debug console commands you will be able to set minimum tithe you want.

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minimum not maximum

[Dimarzio123]

I checked out the PoG guide

I believe I need to set tithe=1 in the config file to activate PoG

Q: How do I set the tithe amount to the daily amount I wish to give?

TIA
PM

There is no such feature at the moment. Using some debug console commands you will be able to set minimum tithe you want.

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minimum not maximum

OK, tx
I assume there must be a default amount per day that is auto tithed
What is this amount currently?

TIA
PM

[SVK Noko]

Regarding the network data consumption it is still the same as before. Big amount of data more than 1MB per minute. Its 1,5 GB daily, it means 45 GB monthly data consumption (tithe=1, gen=1) per one Wallet. So its not usable for users which have some monthly data limitation from their internet provider.

[vahtis]

I checked out the PoG guide

I believe I need to set tithe=1 in the config file to activate PoG

Q: How do I set the tithe amount to the daily amount I wish to give?

TIA
PM

There is no such feature at the moment. Using some debug console commands you will be able to set minimum tithe you want.

edit
minimum not maximum

OK, tx
I assume there must be a default amount per day that is auto tithed
What is this amount currently?

TIA
PM

By default wallet will try every 4 hours or so to tithe and it tithes maximum it can. Maximum varies from 1 to 300. During 205 blocks roughly 24 hours wallet tries to tithe from 6 to 1800 bbp. This is calculated values and we will real values in future. At the moment there is a lot of people with old coins so we are hitting maximum tithes for 205 blocks before last block

[vahtis]

Regarding the network data consumption it is still the same as before. Big amount of data more than 1MB per minute. Its 1,5 GB daily, it means 45 GB monthly data consumption (tithe=1, gen=1) per one Wallet. So its not usable for users which have some monthly data limitation from their internet provider.

Wallet shows that I have sent 2 GB in half an hour. No wonder my network seems slow.
PODC, tithe=1 and gen=1

[slovakia]

Regarding the network data consumption it is still the same as before. Big amount of data more than 1MB per minute. Its 1,5 GB daily, it means 45 GB monthly data consumption (tithe=1, gen=1) per one Wallet. So its not usable for users which have some monthly data limitation from their internet provider.

add it to github todo HAHAHA

[SVK Noko]

Regarding the network data consumption it is still the same as before. Big amount of data more than 1MB per minute. Its 1,5 GB daily, it means 45 GB monthly data consumption (tithe=1, gen=1) per one Wallet. So its not usable for users which have some monthly data limitation from their internet provider.

Wallet shows that I have sent 2 GB in half an hour. No wonder my network seems slow.
PODC, tithe=1 and gen=1

Oh yes when you have podc then it means more data when downloading tasks. But even without podc it is 45 GB per MONTH per ONE WALLET !!! Of course Im talking about data consumption already after complete wallet synchronization.

[SVK Noko]

Regarding the network data consumption it is still the same as before. Big amount of data more than 1MB per minute. Its 1,5 GB daily, it means 45 GB monthly data consumption (tithe=1, gen=1) per one Wallet. So its not usable for users which have some monthly data limitation from their internet provider.

add it to github todo HAHAHA

I wrote about that last year already. Dev said (here on BTT) that in POG version will be small data consumption. Probably this is still not yet fullfilled what means another barrier for new perspective users.

[bible_pay]

Regarding the network data consumption it is still the same as before. Big amount of data more than 1MB per minute. Its 1,5 GB daily, it means 45 GB monthly data consumption (tithe=1, gen=1) per one Wallet. So its not usable for users which have some monthly data limitation from their internet provider.

add it to github todo HAHAHA

I wrote about that last year already. Dev said (here on BTT) that in POG version will be small data consumption. Probably this is still not yet fullfilled what means another barrier for new perspective users.

No but POG uses 0 bandwidth.  

What we need to do is determine if your traffic is inbound, outbound, for block inventory or governance objects.

How many inbound and outbound connections do you have on your node?   Its under connections : Inbound N / Outbound Y.

Also, just to clarify, does BiblePay's Network Monitor screen match your bandwidth use?  IE do we show 1.5 gig of use in the network monitor in one day?  If so what is the breakdown?

[bible_pay]

This pog stuff makes absolutely zero sense.  Furthermore this  "leaderboard" doesn't seem to list the people in any specific order

This is ranting.

Yes, leaderboard should be sorted by sum of tithes descending, that would be cool.  I can do that today.

[bible_pay]

Hello again.

As I said before I have multiple PCs doing SOLO mining and PODC. Every PC has the same wallet copied.
I have 2 PCs (with the same wallet as the other Solo PCs) mining on pool.biblepay.org.
 
For POG, should I have all PCs in a pool or I can leave them solo?
Can I have the same nickname for all the PCs or every PC should have its own nickname?

For POG you can now solve blocks without a signed CPID, so you should no longer have to use the same copy of wallet.dat.

Its really up to you if you want to pool mine or solo mine.
Right now in Pog Phase 1, Solo mined blocks pay about 100 bbp. 

On the nickname:  The pool inducts one nickname per distinct BBP reward address.  So if you have 10 machines all with the same nickname and different wallet.dat's, then you will have 10 entries in the pool.  If you do keep your copied wallet.dat and use the same nickname across 10 machines the pool will induct you as one record.

[bible_pay]

dont forgot one think: pog is creating coins like bank of zimbabwe
do you need more coins? here you are...
with no effort, almost 0 costs of electricity, wallet could be running on few watts device
there will be more and more coins with no value, staking is no answer as it is one time thing, not repeating with new coins

why btc is still dumping? because there are lots of coins mined when value was less (e.g mined with costs ~1000/btc) so it is no problem for somebody to sell it now for 3400
same will be here if you allow low value coins (replace podc with pog)

for fun it is ok to have small pog like now and trying gamble there

Although I agree with a certain element of this theory (that in pure POW each coin had a high electric cost), the new system is not quite the bank of Zimbabwe either.
In the new system, we still have individual single PC's running at least 1 POW thread of POBH, so that may drop electric consumption but its still there per distinct user-pc.
The other element is (and this is what I'm hoping for) is a change in our user base.

Before we had 200 rich people with 10 machines each.  Now we are hoping for 2000 average people with 1 machine each.
The question is, will this materialize, and, are 2000 thriving positive community members better for us than 200 who like to count coins every day (Im just joking, but you get my point).

Also we have PIVX to consider and they have 0 POW and are valued based on the ingenuity of POS with Dash alone.

[sunk818]

Maybe Australia or some island have bandwidth usage issue. But it is unlimited where I live. I don't push more than 500gb a month either way for  total monthly usage. And that includes Netflix streaming.. I don't really see the bandwidth argument as a stumbling block.

[bible_pay]

Maybe Australia or some island have bandwidth usage issue. But it is unlimited where I live. I don't push more than 500gb a month either way for  total monthly usage. And that includes Netflix streaming.. I don't really see the bandwidth argument as a stumbling block.

Well plus (they didnt believe me), but Pog uses less bandwidth than BBP+a pool.
A pool requires the work to be sent back and forth (each small subunit is solved once per 5 mins or so).
POG requires 0 bandwidth.

Technically we should be pretty low bandwidth once the network is synced.  I dont know how many nodes per minute are asking for an entire chain.
But let us not make the assumption its always blocks.  If we can get some legitimate complaints that its on port 40,000 and its excessive and its not a blockchain packet, then MIP and I can add a feature that will show exactly the count and type and size of what it was, but Im looking at my windows node and it doesnt look excessive on the network analyzer tab.   I received 198 megs and sent 1gig of data since the last boot.  (I can see sending 1 gig of blockchain data in a few days time to nodes who are resyncing, and asking 198 meg of blocks etc).

[bible_pay]

Regarding the network data consumption it is still the same as before. Big amount of data more than 1MB per minute. Its 1,5 GB daily, it means 45 GB monthly data consumption (tithe=1, gen=1) per one Wallet. So its not usable for users which have some monthly data limitation from their internet provider.

Wallet shows that I have sent 2 GB in half an hour. No wonder my network seems slow.
PODC, tithe=1 and gen=1

Something is wrong there - I havent sent 1 gig since I booted it last, so first ensure you are completely synced.
Then clear the Tools | Network Monitor tab.
Then watch it for 24 hours and see if its too high and if it matches what gig monitor you are looking at - and verify all this is on port 40,000 if so.
(You might be running other things).

[bible_pay]

I checked out the PoG guide

I believe I need to set tithe=1 in the config file to activate PoG

Q: How do I set the tithe amount to the daily amount I wish to give?

TIA
PM

On a side note the automatic option only tithes if its profitable (see titheinfo to see the ROI figure, its about 16% or so usually).
The only way to control it manually is to turn off auto (tithe=0) then send manual tithes, but of course that would be very tedious with the consistent high diff level.

To get a feel of the total per day see the "pog pool" and whatever your entry ends up being in 24 hours is roughly what the wallet is auto tithing.

[bible_pay]

I see a sharp increase in POW difficulty.  This is what we needed.

[secoccular]

I was told, and believe, that the extra bandwidth usage is coming from chain updates because we're all full nodes. I have 25 wallets of different coins, and none of them will touch the usage of BBP client.

 Not sure why it only updates in outgoing direction. One would think the communication would be two-way, which makes me wonder about what's happening.

Typically, about 1GB per day, and we are metered here, so it eats into the monthly allotment.


So with the end of heat mining, can we expect our network usage to go down also? Or will it always be like this?

[Dimarzio123]

I checked out the PoG guide

I believe I need to set tithe=1 in the config file to activate PoG

Q: How do I set the tithe amount to the daily amount I wish to give?

TIA
PM

On a side note the automatic option only tithes if its profitable (see titheinfo to see the ROI figure, its about 16% or so usually).
The only way to control it manually is to turn off auto (tithe=0) then send manual tithes, but of course that would be very tedious with the consistent high diff level.

To get a feel of the total per day see the "pog pool" and whatever your entry ends up being in 24 hours is roughly what the wallet is auto tithing.

Tx for the reply

However, the point of my q is to ensure that auto-tithe cannot not send the entire content of my BBP wallet - due to a glitch or other
So, I will ask again - is there a default amount (or a max amount ) that will be sent by auto-tithe?

TIA
PM

[bible_pay]

I was told, and believe, that the extra bandwidth usage is coming from chain updates because we're all full nodes. I have 25 wallets of different coins, and none of them will touch the usage of BBP client.

 Not sure why it only updates in outgoing direction. One would think the communication would be two-way, which makes me wonder about what's happening.

Typically, about 1GB per day, and we are metered here, so it eats into the monthly allotment.


So with the end of heat mining, can we expect our network usage to go down also? Or will it always be like this?

Well we are all full nodes with the full chain, but we are only full nodes if we have a firewall forwarding port 40000 to the fullnode.
If you look at tools | info, see if you have inbound connections.  That will tell you if you are servicing other nodes both ways (IE accepting new users connections, people who aren't synced yet).

But lets try to hone in on this - you having multiple wallets will be very valuable to diagnose this.  Could you take a look at the tools | network traffic tab in biblepay, and compare it for 24 hours to one of your other popular coins and tell us the difference in outbound traffic?  

As far as the future, we are technically retiring podc (not heat mining, actually heat mining would be getting more popular with us- since more POBH users will jump on for POG).  The only bandwidth change would be less consumed by boinc and the boinc client and the boinc programs.  You would see an increase in node count, but this new bandwidth draw would be shared across the new nodes also.

Id like to know the baselines first before we assign a dev to add the feature that monitors the bandwidth by messagetype.