[ANN] US/North American Bitfury sales NEW STOCK ***NOW SHIPPING***

[zurg]

Hi guys - a couple quick notes on some of the themes I've been seeing in emails & forum threads:

-new cards are factory overclocked to .865v.  You shouldn't have to turn them up from there - though you could turn them down if you want.
-a fully overclocked rig will do 575G - 600G with proper cooling.  By proper, I mean use the three fan power headers on the M-board.  Point an additional box fan at it for good measure.  Don't run it in a 90-degree basement
-if your rig is too hot, you will see cards thermal-cycling.  Hashrate will be good, then drop to zero or very low for a while, then go high, back to zero, etc.

The mining software has been tuned for the V3 rigs.  Basically the speed parameter is turned down from 55 to 52.  Here's a link to the V3 chainminer software:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qtykkb1tyosbykw/CVrcVszQyy

A link to the new image is coming soon - this has the changes Jared made for the network settings and the smart IP assignment bits.

I've disabled store sales - we've still got old-style H-cards and M-boards, as well as V3 stuff, but new prices are coming.  As soon as I put the wraps on the accounting for the last cycle, we'll put up more product at the new (much) lower prices.

The credit card merchant account continues to be "almost activated".  I've been told repeatedly that there are no blocking problems, but the process is slow.  Makes me wish I could use Stripe  I hope to have credit card processing in place prior to opening new store sales.

Thanks for your patience and emails of support!
Regards,
Dave

Woohoo, cant wait

[bkpduke]

... but new prices are coming.  As soon as I put the wraps on the accounting for the last cycle, we'll put up more product at the new (much) lower prices. . .

Time to save my BTC for some more hardware

[CoinHoarder]

I'd appreciate it if you'd ship my miners that were supposed to be delivered in October before lowering your prices. So I pay $8000 and get my rig this week/next week. Someone else pays say.. $4000 tomorrow and received their rig just a week later than me? Can you not see how anyone would have an issue with this?

I understand you need to lower your prices, but it is like a slap in the face to October orders that have not been delivered yet. Can $8000 October rig buyers switch their orders for later delivery and get store credit or something?

[Paladin69]

I'd appreciate it if you'd ship my miners that were supposed to be delivered in October before lowering your prices. So I pay $8000 and get my rig this week/next week. Someone else pays say.. $4000 tomorrow and received their rig just a week later than me? Can you not see how anyone would have an issue with this?

I understand you need to lower your prices, but it is like a slap in the face to October orders that have not been delivered yet. Can $8000 October rig buyers switch their orders for later delivery and get store credit or something?

I agree.  Bitfury needs to protect the network for their October customers for a little while longer.  There will be no future generations worth purchasing if ASIC manufacturers keep irresponsibly moving so much TH out the door.

[Trongersoll]

I'd appreciate it if you'd ship my miners that were supposed to be delivered in October before lowering your prices. So I pay $8000 and get my rig this week/next week. Someone else pays say.. $4000 tomorrow and received their rig just a week later than me? Can you not see how anyone would have an issue with this?

I understand you need to lower your prices, but it is like a slap in the face to October orders that have not been delivered yet. Can $8000 October rig buyers switch their orders for later delivery and get store credit or something?

I agree.  Bitfury needs to protect the network for their October customers for a little while longer.  There will be no future generations worth purchasing if ASIC manufacturers keep irresponsibly moving so much TH out the door.

This is the way it is always going to be. If you go to the store and something is cheaper than it was yesterday when you bought it, do you throw a hissy fit? I can understand being pissed for not getting your stuff yet, but not complaining about dropping prices. They should stop selling stuff because you want some time before the price drops? Are all the other sellers going to take a break as well? If you have expectations of profit or fairness you are in the wrong game.

[CoinHoarder]

This is the way it is always going to be. If you go to the store and something is cheaper than it was yesterday when you bought it, do you throw a hissy fit? I can understand being pissed for not getting your stuff yet, but not complaining about dropping prices. They should stop selling stuff because you want some time before the price drops? Are all the other sellers going to take a break as well? If you have expectations of profit or fairness you are in the wrong game.

I understand your point of view, and I knew there would be at least several responses along these lines.

"If you go to the store and something is cheaper than it was yesterday when you bought it, do you throw a hissy fit?" When I go to the store here to buy something, it is not a money making machine. I don't see how your example here relates, as buying a TV and buying a Bitcoin miner are two very different purchases for very different purposes.

"I can understand being pissed for not getting your stuff yet" Yes, this is my main grievance.

"but not complaining about dropping prices. They should stop selling stuff because you want some time before the price drops?" The problem is that I will not get ANY time... not even "some time" to mine before the price drops. He is talking about lowering the price and I haven't received anything yet.

"Are all the other sellers going to take a break as well?" - Obviously not, but each manufacturer should try to make it right by their previous customers, otherwise they will not be in business very long. Although this community is growing rapidly, it is still a small community and only so many bitcoin miners looking to purchase equipment. Especially after so many have been burned by previous manufacturers.

"If you have expectations of profit or fairness you are in the wrong game." I'm pretty sure that's why 99% of the people that buy mining equipment are looking for. The problem is, I just want to break even at this point. My expectations of profit went out the window when my Batch 3 Avalons only gained back 50% of their ROI to date (we have lost about 361 BTC up to this point.) All I want is to break even on my bitfury purchase, is that so much to ask?

[ericdc30]

I plugged in my unit this morning

Noncerate: 579.391GH/s !!!!! Great job guys it's a very nice product!

[Paladin69]

I'd appreciate it if you'd ship my miners that were supposed to be delivered in October before lowering your prices. So I pay $8000 and get my rig this week/next week. Someone else pays say.. $4000 tomorrow and received their rig just a week later than me? Can you not see how anyone would have an issue with this?

I understand you need to lower your prices, but it is like a slap in the face to October orders that have not been delivered yet. Can $8000 October rig buyers switch their orders for later delivery and get store credit or something?

I agree.  Bitfury needs to protect the network for their October customers for a little while longer.  There will be no future generations worth purchasing if ASIC manufacturers keep irresponsibly moving so much TH out the door.

This is the way it is always going to be. If you go to the store and something is cheaper than it was yesterday when you bought it, do you throw a hissy fit? I can understand being pissed for not getting your stuff yet, but not complaining about dropping prices. They should stop selling stuff because you want some time before the price drops? Are all the other sellers going to take a break as well? If you have expectations of profit or fairness you are in the wrong game.

We're talking about the difference between $8K and $4K.  Not a lamp from wal-mart (which you can price match in 90 days anyway)

It's amazing how rude people are to others.  Yep, fuck fairness.  I got mine so screw everyone else.  You'd be singing a different tune if you were on the outside looking in I'm sure.

[shade88]

Let's ship Oct orders faster and worry about lower price later
Though I'm gonna hashing with it at 400Million, now it's 510M and not shipped.

[optimator]

I plugged in my unit this morning

Noncerate: 579.391GH/s !!!!! Great job guys it's a very nice product!

Awesome hash rate! What are you cooling it with?

[Spotswood]

I plugged in my unit this morning

Noncerate: 579.391GH/s !!!!! Great job guys it's a very nice product!

Pics please. 

[mb300sd]

This is the way it is always going to be. If you go to the store and something is cheaper than it was yesterday when you bought it, do you throw a hissy fit? I can understand being pissed for not getting your stuff yet, but not complaining about dropping prices. They should stop selling stuff because you want some time before the price drops? Are all the other sellers going to take a break as well? If you have expectations of profit or fairness you are in the wrong game.

I understand your point of view, and I knew there would be at least several responses along these lines.

"If you go to the store and something is cheaper than it was yesterday when you bought it, do you throw a hissy fit?" When I go to the store here to buy something, it is not a money making machine. I don't see how your example here relates, as buying a TV and buying a Bitcoin miner are two very different purchases for very different purposes.

"I can understand being pissed for not getting your stuff yet" Yes, this is my main grievance.

"but not complaining about dropping prices. They should stop selling stuff because you want some time before the price drops?" The problem is that I will not get ANY time... not even "some time" to mine before the price drops. He is talking about lowering the price and I haven't received anything yet.

"Are all the other sellers going to take a break as well?" - Obviously not, but each manufacturer should try to make it right by their previous customers, otherwise they will not be in business very long. Although this community is growing rapidly, it is still a small community and only so many bitcoin miners looking to purchase equipment. Especially after so many have been burned by previous manufacturers.

"If you have expectations of profit or fairness you are in the wrong game." I'm pretty sure that's why 99% of the people that buy mining equipment are looking for. The problem is, I just want to break even at this point. My expectations of profit went out the window when my Batch 3 Avalons only gained back 50% of their ROI to date (we have lost about 361 BTC up to this point.) All I want is to break even on my bitfury purchase, is that so much to ask?

No, I return it and buy it again, or buy a new one and return it with my day old receipt. Not exactly an option here.

[xstr8guy]

I just received 5 new-style cards and the last two in the chain are pooping out after just a few minutes.  I have 2-140mm fans in push-pull configuration but no heatsinks (which I won't bother with).  The bad cards are the last in line on the M board.

I assume they are getting too much voltage and getting hot... or whatever. I'm not a technical person at all, so I really have no idea what to do to get these two cards running as best as they can.  I'm not looking for high OC numbers, just good stable middle-of-the-road hash rates.  I don't want to fuss with them.  I just want them to be reliable.

Any ideas?

[klondike_bar]

I just received 5 new-style cards and the last two in the chain are pooping out after just a few minutes.  I have 2-140mm fans in push-pull configuration but no heatsinks (which I won't bother with).  The bad cards are the last in line on the M board.

I assume they are getting too much voltage and getting hot... or whatever. I'm not a technical person at all, so I really have no idea what to do to get these two cards running as best as they can.  I'm not looking for high OC numbers, just good stable middle-of-the-road hash rates.  I don't want to fuss with them.  I just want them to be reliable.

Any ideas?

if the new cards operate at >0.86V they can be quite near their upper limits. They may need better cooling or slight downvolting (0.85v) to be stable

[buzzdave]

I'd appreciate it if you'd ship my miners that were supposed to be delivered in October before lowering your prices. So I pay $8000 and get my rig this week/next week. Someone else pays say.. $4000 tomorrow and received their rig just a week later than me? Can you not see how anyone would have an issue with this?

I understand you need to lower your prices, but it is like a slap in the face to October orders that have not been delivered yet. Can $8000 October rig buyers switch their orders for later delivery and get store credit or something?

I've said it before, but maybe should clarify.  New gear at new prices won't go up until (probably) December.  Possibly later.  We have big mines to build, so all the product that could be retailed will be going into that.

Hope that clarifies.

[xstr8guy]

I just received 5 new-style cards and the last two in the chain are pooping out after just a few minutes.  I have 2-140mm fans in push-pull configuration but no heatsinks (which I won't bother with).  The bad cards are the last in line on the M board.

I assume they are getting too much voltage and getting hot... or whatever. I'm not a technical person at all, so I really have no idea what to do to get these two cards running as best as they can.  I'm not looking for high OC numbers, just good stable middle-of-the-road hash rates.  I don't want to fuss with them.  I just want them to be reliable.

Any ideas?

if the new cards operate at >0.86V they can be quite near their upper limits. They may need better cooling or slight downvolting (0.85v) to be stable

The card(s) that stop hashing now seems to random.  The card in slot 1 stopped now after I swapped card 4 & 5.  Cards 2-5 continued to hash at a good rate after card 1 stopped.

So I guess I don't even know which cards to reduce the voltage on if it's a different card each time.  Btw, do you know which way to turn the pot to adjust the voltage down?  I don't have a way to measure voltage but since I just want to reduce voltage, I'm not to worried.


EDIT  After restarting CGMiner, now cards 3 & 4 are stopped. 

[buzzdave]

I just received 5 new-style cards and the last two in the chain are pooping out after just a few minutes.  I have 2-140mm fans in push-pull configuration but no heatsinks (which I won't bother with).  The bad cards are the last in line on the M board.

I assume they are getting too much voltage and getting hot... or whatever. I'm not a technical person at all, so I really have no idea what to do to get these two cards running as best as they can.  I'm not looking for high OC numbers, just good stable middle-of-the-road hash rates.  I don't want to fuss with them.  I just want them to be reliable.

Any ideas?

if the new cards operate at >0.86V they can be quite near their upper limits. They may need better cooling or slight downvolting (0.85v) to be stable

The card(s) that stop hashing now seems to random.  The card in slot 1 stopped now after I swapped card 4 & 5.  Cards 2-5 continued to hash at a good rate after card 1 stopped.

So I guess I don't even know which cards to reduce the voltage on if it's a different card each time.  Btw, do you know which way to turn the pot to adjust the voltage down?  I don't have a way to measure voltage but since I just want to reduce voltage, I'm not to worried.


EDIT  After restarting CGMiner, now cards 3 & 4 are stopped. 

You are running CGminer?

[xstr8guy]

I just received 5 new-style cards and the last two in the chain are pooping out after just a few minutes.  I have 2-140mm fans in push-pull configuration but no heatsinks (which I won't bother with).  The bad cards are the last in line on the M board.

I assume they are getting too much voltage and getting hot... or whatever. I'm not a technical person at all, so I really have no idea what to do to get these two cards running as best as they can.  I'm not looking for high OC numbers, just good stable middle-of-the-road hash rates.  I don't want to fuss with them.  I just want them to be reliable.

Any ideas?

if the new cards operate at >0.86V they can be quite near their upper limits. They may need better cooling or slight downvolting (0.85v) to be stable

The card(s) that stop hashing now seems to random.  The card in slot 1 stopped now after I swapped card 4 & 5.  Cards 2-5 continued to hash at a good rate after card 1 stopped.

So I guess I don't even know which cards to reduce the voltage on if it's a different card each time.  Btw, do you know which way to turn the pot to adjust the voltage down?  I don't have a way to measure voltage but since I just want to reduce voltage, I'm not to worried.


EDIT  After restarting CGMiner, now cards 3 & 4 are stopped. 

You are running CGminer?

No, sorry!  Just the miner that is on board.

[frankenmint]

I just received 5 new-style cards and the last two in the chain are pooping out after just a few minutes.  I have 2-140mm fans in push-pull configuration but no heatsinks (which I won't bother with).  The bad cards are the last in line on the M board.

I assume they are getting too much voltage and getting hot... or whatever. I'm not a technical person at all, so I really have no idea what to do to get these two cards running as best as they can.  I'm not looking for high OC numbers, just good stable middle-of-the-road hash rates.  I don't want to fuss with them.  I just want them to be reliable.

Any ideas?

if the new cards operate at >0.86V they can be quite near their upper limits. They may need better cooling or slight downvolting (0.85v) to be stable

The card(s) that stop hashing now seems to random.  The card in slot 1 stopped now after I swapped card 4 & 5.  Cards 2-5 continued to hash at a good rate after card 1 stopped.

So I guess I don't even know which cards to reduce the voltage on if it's a different card each time.  Btw, do you know which way to turn the pot to adjust the voltage down?  I don't have a way to measure voltage but since I just want to reduce voltage, I'm not to worried.


EDIT  After restarting CGMiner, now cards 3 & 4 are stopped. 

You are running CGminer?

REally stupmed on how to update my miner software...

Thinking that I'm supposed to be using psftp and to literally overwrite the files located here?:  /opt/bitfury/chainminer

[Cablez]

This is what goxed wrote up for me to update chainminer on a V1 M-board and it worked.

cd ~/

a) mkdir chainminer-temp
b) cd  chainminer-temp
c) wget https://github.com/bfsb/chainminer/archive/master.zip
d) unzip master.zip
e) cd chainminer-master
f) change line 6 in miner.h
  f.1) vim miner.h  (do you use vim?)
  f.2) i
  f.3) change the line
  f.4) Esc
  f.5) wq enter
  f.6) you can try nano otherwise (nano miner.h)
g) make
h) cd ..
i) mv /opt/bitfury/chainminer /opt/bitfury/chainminer_v1_original
j) cp -r chainminer-master /opt/bitfury/chainminer