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August 24, 2013, 09:01:34 PM
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I think latest rde's Beta miner has some serious issues. I see shares not submitting to the pool all the time. It looks like it's working ok, but shares don't submit way too often then reasonable. Especially 7ch and 8ch. I used both Windows x64 and Windows AVX builds

I think we should go back to mumus or maybe Cabin's build.

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August 24, 2013, 09:30:52 PM
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Please, add support HTTP-proxy and time to pause between retries in jhPrimeminer for Linux

+1 Please add firewall friendly ports *80* so we can mine behind coorporate firewalls.
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August 24, 2013, 10:23:10 PM
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I think latest rde's Beta miner has some serious issues. I see shares not submitting to the pool all the time. It looks like it's working ok, but shares don't submit way too often then reasonable. Especially 7ch and 8ch. I used both Windows x64 and Windows AVX builds

I think we should go back to mumus or maybe Cabin's build.

There's been no other reports of these types of issues.. However, it must be noted that over the last 48hours jh00 has done several reboots to apply the beginnings of a new reward system - and each of those reboots has caused all miners to disconnect..

Please do come back with more detail on your share posting issue though as there are *many* people running my builds without such issues..

Thanks! Smiley

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August 25, 2013, 12:38:32 AM
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Rde, if you could make it easy to see in the miner how many shares were found and how many were submitted of each type: 6ch, 7ch, 8 ch. This would make it clear how bad the issue is or if it's even an issue. Also it would make it possible to compare it to the other builds.

Thanks!

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August 25, 2013, 01:07:03 AM
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Rde, if you could make it easy to see in the miner how many shares were found and how many were submitted of each type: 6ch, 7ch, 8 ch. This would make it clear how bad the issue is or if it's even an issue. Also it would make it possible to compare it to the other builds.

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Every block that passes has this detail

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August 25, 2013, 01:36:30 AM
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══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
New Block: 132649 - Diff: 9.789643 / 6.500000
Total/Valid shares: [ 166 / 164 ]  -  Max diff: 8.045575
 6ch/h:    61.31 - 278 [ 48 / 60 / 170 ]
 7ch/h:     7.72 - 35 [ 6 / 4 / 25 ]
 8ch/h:     0.22 - 1 [ 0 / 1 / 0 ]
Share Value submitted - Last Block/Total: 0.003904 / 2.343606
Current Primorial Value: 47
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Can you explain on this example?

What hapeend with share 8ch?
What 48 and 60 mean in 6 ch stats?
Why total shares are only 166, if it's clear that 6ch+7ch+8ch is what more then 166?[/li][/list]

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August 25, 2013, 01:41:42 AM
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GPU can be  used?
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August 25, 2013, 01:53:43 AM
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I have seen twice that my newly found 8-chains share not showing in "share value" display on the upper right of the ypool's page. Both times the display responded to 6-chains and 7-chains like clockwork. So it was not a problem with network or pool's down time. The XPM column in the personal stat page didn't have any change more than 0.001 after the above 8-chains were found.  Not all 8-chains are missing. Often they do get counted.  (Because my 8-chain/h is less than 1, most times it is the 6-chain/7-chains that contribute to the XPM column. So once an 8-chain is found you can see the result in  the XPM column, if it gets counted.)

I am wondering what was happening. I am using one of the unofficial miners. Is it possible that the miner is secretly sending some of the more valuabe shares to another account?

More than likely what is happening (and you can verify this by keeping an eye on your miner's output) is that those shares end up invalid for some reason. Most often (for me) the cause of this is finding a share right as a block is solved, causing the share to become outdated.

I have checked if they become invalid by checking if there is a message and they were not invalid. The output info when every block is found also showed no invalid 8-chain shares.

What it looks like to me is that if you get a large chain, it doesn't register as a share, but makes subsequent shares worth more for a while

As I described I don't see any results of the 8chains in subsequent  shares or XPM payouts.

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August 25, 2013, 02:04:57 AM
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I think latest rde's Beta miner has some serious issues. I see shares not submitting to the pool all the time. It looks like it's working ok, but shares don't submit way too often then reasonable. Especially 7ch and 8ch. I used both Windows x64 and Windows AVX builds

I think we should go back to mumus or maybe Cabin's build.

There's been no other reports of these types of issues.. However, it must be noted that over the last 48hours jh00 has done several reboots to apply the beginnings of a new reward system - and each of those reboots has caused all miners to disconnect..

Please do come back with more detail on your share posting issue though as there are *many* people running my builds without such issues..

Thanks! Smiley

My miner is cabin's build of your beta3 miner. I think another possibility for the missing shares is that somehow the server drops more shares for the larger chains. When I observed the missing 8-chains I don't see 6-chains and 7-chains missing so it was not like the server is down. I did see blocks being found at a high rate  by ypool.
It would be useful if the peronal stat page of ypool can show how many each kind of shares are found for every block for the last 10 blocks.

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August 25, 2013, 03:20:19 AM
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Is ypool down ?
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August 25, 2013, 03:56:40 AM
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Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to ypool.net

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August 25, 2013, 03:57:27 AM
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Is ypool down ?


Seems like it, webpage, forum and pool arent responding on my end for the last hour or so... switched for solo mining to try my luck while ypool gets up again
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August 25, 2013, 04:59:29 AM
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looks like DDos attack - I just hope ..my unconfirmed is safe Tongue
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August 25, 2013, 05:05:52 AM
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looks like DDos attack - I just hope ..my unconfirmed is safe Tongue
I feel the same way about my unconfirmed. It took me days to get all that XPM. Someone needs to make another pool for backup.
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August 25, 2013, 05:19:39 AM
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yes i hop they are still up and dont leave with peoples money
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August 25, 2013, 05:20:43 AM
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Anybody know what the problem is?

Still busy mining
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August 25, 2013, 05:42:28 AM
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Anybody know what the problem is?
The worst case is that someone did a 51% attack. I didnt see any warning of the site going down in chat.
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August 25, 2013, 05:51:20 AM
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Nah! they wont run away with unconfirmed coins. I just hope that it is recoverable after the Ddos against the site (if that is the case)
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August 25, 2013, 06:17:47 AM
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Nah! they wont run away with unconfirmed coins. I just hope that it is recoverable after the Ddos against the site (if that is the case)
Well ive seen several sites get DDOS and come back online unharmed. So im hoping the site comes back soon and without damage.
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August 25, 2013, 06:22:33 AM
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    ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════
    New Block: 132649 - Diff: 9.789643 / 6.500000
    Total/Valid shares: [ 166 / 164 ]  -  Max diff: 8.045575
     6ch/h:    61.31 - 278 [ 48 / 60 / 170 ]
     7ch/h:     7.72 - 35 [ 6 / 4 / 25 ]
     8ch/h:     0.22 - 1 [ 0 / 1 / 0 ]
    Share Value submitted - Last Block/Total: 0.003904 / 2.343606
    Current Primorial Value: 47
    ══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════

    Can you explain on this example?

    What hapeend with share 8ch?
    What 48 and 60 mean in 6 ch stats?
    Why total shares are only 166, if it's clear that 6ch+7ch+8ch is what more then 166?[/li][/list]

    Thank you!

    The stats have been confusing a lot of people with the changes being made to the pool..

    The key to remember is that the block summary shows all chains found of the specified length irrespective of whether they were a valid share or not.

    In your example, the last block had 2 6ch. Determined by looking at total reward for last block.
    Also in your example assuming the 8ch and 7ch were all valid (36 shares), the remaining 130 shares would have to be 6ch.. Given the minimum pool difficulty is now 6.5 you'd expect about half the 6ch to be under difficulty.. Which is pretty much bang on in your example..

    I see nothing obviously wrong there, purely that the stats are not as clear and concise as they could be.. I've been trying to get feedback about which stats people actually want.. From what you've described a decent per block breakdown of chains/shares is more important than lifetime chain counts.. Is this sentiment shared by all?

    Hope that helps..

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