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May 13, 2021, 01:36:03 AM
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I see now you have added full support for the Rx 6800 XT cards.I was having some issues with one such card Rx 6800 Xt in the 5.6b miner,as after a few hours this card hashrate was going to 0.Now I have just started 5.6d and will report back if any problems are still there.What driver do you suggest for this new miner 5.6 d?

   The latest Windows drivers should be fine. Use -hstats 2 to see the actual clocks/voltages on the card when mining. Also, either use PhoenixMiner exclusively for hardware control, or other OC program. If you use both, the problems are all but guaranteed.




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Are you adding ZIL dag pre-allocation anytime soon?

somewhat strange behavior: I have updated some of my ETH+ZIL Polaris rigs to 20.9.1 + PM 5.6D (the performance is about 0.3-0.5% higher, with 1-3% lower power consumption)  however now each time the switch is happening ALL the updated rigs go down, some random GPUs are failing to init the DAG (12GPU rigs), while 19.12.2 +PM 5.5C is working fine.
  Yes, it will be included in the next release. Which switch is causing the problems? From ETH to ZIL or the reverse? In any case, it is unlikely that this has anything to do with the PhoenixMiner version, it is more likely that the newer drivers are the culprit. We would suggest trying 20.4.x as the latest drivers that limit the DAG size to 4 GB if you have stability issues with 20.5.1 and later versions.



I have had this several times with my GitHub repositories with miners forks.
So, GitHub blocks accounts for five reasons:
1. Someone has complained
2. Automatically by mistake
3. Someone forked the repository from a "dirty" account (When a fraudulent account is created and it starts to fork normal accounts, good chain accounts are sometimes also blocked.
4. The presence of two accounts.
5. Someone spammed the issues branch (sometimes GitHub blocks the account itself)

What I used to do and always got amnesty:
1. Write to support (https://support.github.com/contact/account) and ask the reason for blocking. In a response letter (2-3 days), they always write the reason for blocking the account. They will also ask you to describe your files and what they do.
After they receive this information, then in 99% of cases the unlocking takes place, if you do not drag out for a long time.

I always wrote that this is a cryptocurrency miner such as NiceHash and asked why then NiceHash is not blocked? After all, this is essentially the same miner. After that I was always unblocked Smiley

Then the account never gets the Suspended status again.
Try to write support, I think it will help.
  We appreciate the suggestions but for the time being we are done with github. If they at least had warned us, we would have taken measures to avoid this disruption (however short) but to terminate our account without even an e-mail message is just unacceptable. About what you can expect from Microsoft owned company.




When a GPU crashes, is there any indication in the log of which card crashed? I normally look to see which one is stuck at 0 MH/s but sometimes the card crashes and then resumes mining normally. Is there an event logged anywhere?
   If the GPU doesn't bring down the whole rig, you should see something like "GPUx is not responding" towards the end of the log.




That was fast.  Cheesy

It certainly looks like you guys were anticipating something like this was going to happen.  Kudos for getting your own repo ready quickly.
  We learned some lessons from the MEGA fiasco a couple of months ago. Hopefully this would be the last time something like this happens.




is @Phonexminer hacked

I dont remmeber they ever gave a  d version out, it was either beta like 5.5b
or the release 5.5c

5.5d  has been usually malware

checked the HASH of 5.5C  on the new website and old file and they match but hte 5.5D  is a new file so if phonexminers account on here is hacked and their github is hacked... ummm
  5.6d is a legitimate version (if you download it from the link in the first post, and compare the checksums for a good measure). It replaced the 5.6c, which contains a regression bug (not showing the Nvidia GPU temperatures unless -hstats 2 is used). The problem was annoying enough and easy to fix, so we decided to just release 5.6d instead of waiting about a month or more before releasing the fix with the next PhoenixMiner version.



The above post (from the forum user stef_stef) probably contains malware! Do not download anything from the links in his post!

Our GitHub account was terminated (not a big surprise after they deleted some other mining software repos but we kind of liked the functionality there). Again, no explanation was given - they just don't want to host popular mining software it seems.

Our new host is up and running. You can find the latest version of PhoenixMiner (as well as older releases and beta versions) here:

https://phoenixminer.info/downloads/

As always, make sure to compare the checksums of the downloaded files with these from the first post of this thread. This is a good idea for any download and takes mere seconds to do.


It very much did contain malware as I woke up and found I had been TeamViewer?(not sure) hacked and they transferred out 2.34 BTC (but left 0.27, wonder why?) among other coins.  Don't be dumb like me, just thought I'd share, sad day for me.  There isn't anything that can be done about it I'm guessing?

All in all I am grateful they didn't take everything but it does hurt quite a bit...  the shock is wearing off and now feeling a bit sickly.  
  That is really bad! The best thing you can do is try to check the destination address and if it is in some of the big exchanges, you try writing them to at least block the account of the scammers.

  The malicious post was deleted by the admins without 30 minutes or so, and we reported it as soon as we noticed it. The github account that it linked was created just yesterday. Please, please, do not download anything PhoenixMIner-releated from posts that are not from our account! And always compare the checksums - it is quite easy to do and can spare you a lot of trouble. Additional good security practice is to always keep your private keys encrypted, and not on the same machine from which you are making the transactions.



Hi. Can someone give a good guide to what I should compare the checksums(the first post no longer has checksums for 5.6c) I have been running PhoenixMiner_5.6c. But I no checksums I can find match my zip or my exe.
I got it from github several days ago. which seems down now. Yhis whole situation with nicehash and multiple compromised versions seems odd.
  Here is our post with the checksums of 5.6c: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2647654.msg56968316#msg56968316



An incident with our share validation engine caused shares to be rejected for ~30 minutes. As compensation, the mining and MEV fees on Ethermine will be lowered to 0% for 48 hours starting from the 12th of May 2021 15:30 UTC. Please accept our appologies for this incident & thank you for mining with us.


what is this?
   There was a problem with ethermine pool, causing a lot valid shares to be rejected as invalid. They will compensate the miners as explained in their tweet.

Has anyone figured out the low hashrate problem on Windows 7 when using NVIDIA GTX10xx series cards, RTX cards work fine on Win7 and hash at full speed, I tried diff versions of PM and still only get about half the speed, I got 14 total rigs, 6 rigs on Win7 that work great with no problems but had to switch to GMINER for the time being, and 8 rigs on Win10 using PM with no problems.

Any ideas, I think the last version that worked ok with Win7 if I remember was 5.2 or earlier.
   We will try to reproduce the problem on Windows 7 rig. Is this also happening with older drivers?



@Phonexminer

Noticed some nasty bugs:

* Win10, 1060 6GB cards, when GPUs clocks are applied via miner with command line parameters, clocks/voltages/memory,
miner start reporting wrong power consumption.. [unreal low one],
you can check that by comparing the power consumption reported by miner with other tools like GPU-Z and similar.
When all those options are removed, (and miner no longer control the GPU parameters like clocks/voltages)
the miner start reporting the correct power consumption.

* Win10, for 3080 GPU when using command line option "-tmaxmem xx",
it cause brutal share staling for all GPUs (with regardless of GPU's models used in the same rig)
lag of 2888ms, 3000ms, 300ms in that range randomly vary between 300ms - 3000ms.
When this option is removed, all found shares return to normal latency of 38ms for all GPUs[/color]
   We will need logs to reproduce these problems, as we haven't seen anything similar on our test rigs.



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May 13, 2021, 03:30:36 AM
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@PhoenixMiner I believe since epoch #411, RX 6x00 stopped working on Linux with 0 hashrate after DAG is generated.
This is not an isolated case for me, I can see people on HiveOS using PhoenixMiner also reported the same.
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At this point I'm pretty sure that there's a nasty bug with Polaris cards at least that shows itself on Linux Kernel 5.11 and later.

5.11 was when the fans suddenly got the zero rpm mode, so I'm sure there were some relevant changes made to the kernel.

Anyway, problem is that while the miner says that config clocks have been applied to all cards, even if I drop the mclock significantly in the config, all but GPU1 still hashes at the same rate and same power.

I noticed this because one of the cards started crashing which wasn't happening before. So I investigated and saw that power usage showed by the miner was significantly higher on kernel 5.11 and later.

I tried to drop the power usage by some means as an experiment and I just couldn't manage, no matter what.

So it's pretty clear to me that at very least, the miner thinks it applied the clocks from config successfully but it's not true for all cards.
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May 13, 2021, 03:55:21 AM
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  We will try to reproduce the problem on Windows 7 rig. Is this also happening with older drivers?

To answer this since I mean the same issue by saying that:
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* Win7, GTX10 Series has lower hash rates

It's the same issue exactly like this:
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Has anyone figured out the low hashrate problem on Windows 7 when using NVIDIA GTX10xx series cards, RTX cards work fine on Win7 and hash at full speed, I tried diff versions of PM and still only get about half the speed, I got 14 total rigs, 6 rigs on Win7 that work great with no problems but had to switch to GMINER for the time being, and 8 rigs on Win10 using PM with no problems.

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  We will try to reproduce the problem on Windows 7 rig. Is this also happening with older drivers?

Yes, it is. It happens with any Nvidia drivers under Win7.

More details:
The issue suddenly happens a month+ ago after some new DAG was reached,
on any machines that are run Win7 and have card from 10 GPU Series.

There was no any changes to the machine/same drivers as before,
but hash rate reduced by 1/4 or 1/5 for all 10 Series cards.
Older drivers was used 38x.xx [that hash rate was always higher before that]
Tired multiple drivers, more newest, latest nothings helps.


For example:
1060 6GB was 24.xx, and suddenly unable to go more than 19.xx with regardless of any settings or anything.
The hash rate for those cards become crippled when using PhoenixMiner under Win7
Under Win10 is fine, or under Win7 is also fine if another miner is used like Gminer,
who addressed this issue and they fix it quickly.



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* Win10, 1060 6GB cards, when GPUs clocks are applied via miner with command line parameters, clocks/voltages/memory,
miner start reporting wrong power consumption.. [unreal low one],
you can check that by comparing the power consumption reported by miner with other tools like GPU-Z and similar.
When all those options are removed, (and miner no longer control the GPU parameters like clocks/voltages)
the miner start reporting the correct power consumption.

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  We will need logs to reproduce these problems, as we haven't seen anything similar on our test rigs.

Don't have access to those rigs anymore where I saw that issue, but will try to duplicate them on a different one tomorrow.
[This was 100% reproducible issue like other issues.]


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* Win10, for 3080 GPU when using command line option "-tmaxmem xx",
it cause brutal share staling for all GPUs (with regardless of GPU's models used in the same rig)
lag of 2888ms, 3000ms, 300ms in that range randomly vary between 300ms - 3000ms.
When this option is removed, all found shares return to normal latency of 38ms for all GPUs

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  We will need logs to reproduce these problems, as we haven't seen anything similar on our test rigs.

Okay, I've recorded it and sent you the logs for this issue, please check PM.

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There is another issue that I forgot to tell:
With this mixed setup of 3xxx & 1xxx Series GPUs ,
only power consumptions for 3xxx Series GPUs are reported,
for 1xxx Series power consumptions its missing. [its included in the same logs too]
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The above post (from the forum user stef_stef) probably contains malware! Do not download anything from the links in his post!

Our GitHub account was terminated (not a big surprise after they deleted some other mining software repos but we kind of liked the functionality there). Again, no explanation was given - they just don't want to host popular mining software it seems.

Our new host is up and running. You can find the latest version of PhoenixMiner (as well as older releases and beta versions) here:

https://phoenixminer.info/downloads/

As always, make sure to compare the checksums of the downloaded files with these from the first post of this thread. This is a good idea for any download and takes mere seconds to do.


It very much did contain malware as I woke up and found I had been TeamViewer?(not sure) hacked and they transferred out 2.34 BTC (but left 0.27, wonder why?) among other coins.  Don't be dumb like me, just thought I'd share, sad day for me.  There isn't anything that can be done about it I'm guessing?

All in all I am grateful they didn't take everything but it does hurt quite a bit...  the shock is wearing off and now feeling a bit sickly.  
  That is really bad! The best thing you can do is try to check the destination address and if it is in some of the big exchanges, you try writing them to at least block the account of the scammers.

  The malicious post was deleted by the admins without 30 minutes or so, and we reported it as soon as we noticed it. The github account that it linked was created just yesterday. Please, please, do not download anything PhoenixMIner-releated from posts that are not from our account! And always compare the checksums - it is quite easy to do and can spare you a lot of trouble. Additional good security practice is to always keep your private keys encrypted, and not on the same machine from which you are making the transactions.

Thanks so much for the reply.  This is the Transaction ID https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1MJuFBK113sY3ayJRF7gHUnSK7KPKuSBJi
They got more then just the 2.34 BTC, that was just from my Exodus wallet, it's 3.7142388 BTC total.   I'm feeling soo poorly and stressed I can't think straight at this point but if someone could help me get it back I'd be happy to split it with them.  Total was around $200k at time stolen...
These are the funds stolen from my Jaxx wallet:

5/12/21 @ 3:06AM 0.071481382 Ether & 9,389.268794 USDT
https://etherscan.io/address/0x582262ac8f1f9ce2dfdbf5e3acbbe8eb66c19517
5/12/21 @ 3:21AM BCH 0.81213413
https://explorer.bitcoin.com/bch/tx/c972d9fa17fac26b061d49c6f48679ffb975a76953658b0e1432e32e4b3560d5
5/12/21 @ 3:07AM LTC 12.10100724
https://blockchair.com/litecoin/address/LRj49XiUFMvcaQc4SVumJ8xHYZjvRAYzvU

From what I can tell it's sitting unspent...  Any help is appreciated but as far as I know I don't see much reason to be hopeful.  Thanks for letting me share, I don't mean to bring anyone else down.
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May 13, 2021, 05:24:11 AM
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Thanks so much for the reply.  This is the Transaction ID efeac5d2fbefd892d81491bd9f706d2f6aef21201d1ce0ed35f1a526dde58e08
They got more then just the 2.34 BTC, that was just from my Exodus wallet, it's 3.7142388 BTC total.   I'm feeling soo poorly and stressed I can't think straight at this point but if someone could help me get it back I'd be happy to split it with them.  Total was around $200k at time stolen...
These are the funds stolen from my Jaxx wallet:
5/12/21 @ 3:06AM BTC 2.3431282
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1MJuFBK113sY3ayJRF7gHUnSK7KPKuSBJi
5/12/21 @ 3:06AM 0.071481382 Ether & 9,389.268794 USDT
https://etherscan.io/address/0x582262ac8f1f9ce2dfdbf5e3acbbe8eb66c19517
5/12/21 @ 3:21AM BCH 0.81213413
https://explorer.bitcoin.com/bch/tx/c972d9fa17fac26b061d49c6f48679ffb975a76953658b0e1432e32e4b3560d5
5/12/21 @ 3:07AM LTC 12.10100724
https://blockchair.com/litecoin/address/LRj49XiUFMvcaQc4SVumJ8xHYZjvRAYzvU

From what I can tell it's sitting unspent...  Any help is appreciated but as far as I know I don't see much reason to be hopeful.  Thanks for letting me share, I don't mean to bring anyone else down.

Sadly... you are not getting anything back - the coins have been confirmed into the hacker's wallets. They simply have not moved them to any other wallet yet.
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May 13, 2021, 05:31:51 AM
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I have issues getting my hash up to full speed!

RX580 with all sorts of drivers, latest being 21.5.1 and PM 5.6d on Win7

It runs at about 9.3MH, (rated at 30-34) and never above that on the ethermine.org pool. (I havent tried other pools yet as I want at least one payout for all the time spent doing this so far.

I tried drivers from 2019, 2020, and even the Blockchain one most recently, but it just kicks out the program, and tells me the GPU is stopped or paused when I try to force an auto speed test.

I have undervolted and overclocked with MSI, (CC 1175/MC 2150/ CV-100) but could not get any BIOS to work right either, so I'm leaving that alone for now too.

It does get shares, with the recent drivers, (but not BC one) but I feel like it could do much better!

 I really dont want to move to win 10, as you may understand.

Any help is appreciated!
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I don't agree - it looks completely fake and dangerous (or suspicious at the least...)

It is full of amateurish statements and web design elements - you can tell for certain that it is a scam website. Even in the footer, all the "Community" links just lead to Ethereum social media accounts. There is no info about who is behind the site, no contact - nothing. As well, all the download links lead to some shady hosting website and the downloads are "protected" with a password.

There is nothing real, genuine and authentic about this fake, scam, most likely malware-ridden site. We must find a way to take it down IMMEDIATELY.


well, "I" never said it was safe, and now know better, others here had looked at it and thought it was.

And yeah, it does reek, so whatever can be done should be. Maybe contact the .org ppl and tell them?
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May 13, 2021, 06:02:01 AM
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Hi,

Seems latest Phoenix broke support for Ethash mining on http://zergpool.com
for users using Awesome Miner.

you can read more details on above reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/zergpool/comments/n9i3rx/shares_100_rejected_on_multiple_machines/

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May 13, 2021, 06:07:24 AM
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Windows 7 I tried many NVIDIA drivers.
441.12
451.48
452.06
457.51
466.27

GTX1060 6gb, 1070, 1080, and 1080ti all report low hashrate, but RTX20xx series show correct speed, this problem started around the time when 4gb cards were loosing speed, when DAG file got over 4gb in size. For couple weeks using -eres 1 or 0 command would help restore full speed, but that was only temporary. GMINER fixed the problem in December. I would rather use PM for all my rigs, remote monitoring is better with PM and Claymores ETHMAN. I will gather all the logs I have if needed, I still have them from different rigs all running Win7.


GMINER v2.38
@develsoftware develsoftware released this on Dec 25, 2020
-fixed performance degradation on Ethash under Windows 7 and Windows 8.1
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I don't agree - it looks completely fake and dangerous (or suspicious at the least...)

It is full of amateurish statements and web design elements - you can tell for certain that it is a scam website. Even in the footer, all the "Community" links just lead to Ethereum social media accounts. There is no info about who is behind the site, no contact - nothing. As well, all the download links lead to some shady hosting website and the downloads are "protected" with a password.

There is nothing real, genuine and authentic about this fake, scam, most likely malware-ridden site. We must find a way to take it down IMMEDIATELY.


well, "I" never said it was safe, and now know better, others here had looked at it and thought it was.

And yeah, it does reek, so whatever can be done should be. Maybe contact the .org ppl and tell them?
This has already been discussed.
It always has correct checksums of files.
But it's better to download from the first post because this is a fan site with referrals and instructions, not a phoenix.
It is harmless, but it does give good starting instructions.
But I advise you to download only from the source.
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Compare to Gminer,  how many percent can be increased at hashrate?
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can anyone explain gpu tuning parameter and wht s better ti get good hashrate..
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can anyone explain gpu tuning parameter and wht s better ti get good hashrate..

-gt <n>
   Set the GPU tuning parameter (6 to 400). The default is 15. You can
   change the tuning parameter interactively with the "+" and "-" keys
   in the miner's console window. You may specify this option per-GPU.
   If you don't specify "-gt" or you specify value 0, the miner will
   use auto-tuning to determine the best GT value. Note that when the
   GPU is dual-mining, it ignores the "-gt" values, and uses "-sci"
   instead.
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can anyone explain gpu tuning parameter and wht s better ti get good hashrate..

-gt <n>
   Set the GPU tuning parameter (6 to 400). The default is 15. You can
   change the tuning parameter interactively with the "+" and "-" keys
   in the miner's console window. You may specify this option per-GPU.
   If you don't specify "-gt" or you specify value 0, the miner will
   use auto-tuning to determine the best GT value. Note that when the
   GPU is dual-mining, it ignores the "-gt" values, and uses "-sci"
   instead.


thx,
What values do you recommend for the RX 6x00?
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I don't agree - it looks completely fake and dangerous (or suspicious at the least...)

It is full of amateurish statements and web design elements - you can tell for certain that it is a scam website. Even in the footer, all the "Community" links just lead to Ethereum social media accounts. There is no info about who is behind the site, no contact - nothing. As well, all the download links lead to some shady hosting website and the downloads are "protected" with a password.

There is nothing real, genuine and authentic about this fake, scam, most likely malware-ridden site. We must find a way to take it down IMMEDIATELY.


well, "I" never said it was safe, and now know better, others here had looked at it and thought it was.

And yeah, it does reek, so whatever can be done should be. Maybe contact the .org ppl and tell them?
This has already been discussed.
It always has correct checksums of files.
But it's better to download from the first post because this is a fan site with referrals and instructions, not a phoenix.
It is harmless, but it does give good starting instructions.
But I advise you to download only from the source.


Also, this site has been around for a while, i dont see anything wrong with it, security certificates look ok and are valid for a year which is a good sign, stop spreading fake news before doing ur research, they're using microsoft onedrive to upload the files. Show some proof of

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can anyone explain gpu tuning parameter and wht s better ti get good hashrate..

-gt <n>
   Set the GPU tuning parameter (6 to 400). The default is 15. You can
   change the tuning parameter interactively with the "+" and "-" keys
   in the miner's console window. You may specify this option per-GPU.
   If you don't specify "-gt" or you specify value 0, the miner will
   use auto-tuning to determine the best GT value. Note that when the
   GPU is dual-mining, it ignores the "-gt" values, and uses "-sci"
   instead.


thx,
What values do you recommend for the RX 6x00?

Sorry, I do not know. I've never owned an RX 6x00.
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May 13, 2021, 06:36:29 AM
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Compare to Gminer,  how many percent can be increased at hashrate?
yes, it's pretty much the same.
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May 13, 2021, 06:39:28 AM
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Compare to Gminer,  how many percent can be increased at hashrate?
yes, it's pretty much the same.

And with teamred?
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May 13, 2021, 06:42:10 AM
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Compare to Gminer,  how many percent can be increased at hashrate?
yes, it's pretty much the same.

And with teamred?

On AMD there's a noticeable difference (cca 1MH/s higher). Besides that I can see a much more consistent submitted share count compared to Teamred, t-rex and gminer. The graph is not so choppy but almost a nice straight line. This goes for nVidia cards as well.
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