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July 21, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
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One rule: Never, ever, ever make me angry, which you are doing right now.

As for the readme, i read it...not much of an explanation there.

Also, it seems it's NOT using btcguild.

LMAO can you be any more immature even if you tried ?

This thread went nicely without fat trolls like yourself (I used the fat word, are you going to eat me now?)

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July 21, 2011, 09:43:48 PM
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hey dikidera you just got reported to admin, watch your mouth when you go out in public. That goes to you too clipse

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July 21, 2011, 09:47:08 PM
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hey dikidera you just got reported to admin, watch your mouth when you go out in public. That goes to you too clipse
So? And two, it's not me that should watch it, but you.
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July 21, 2011, 09:51:42 PM
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hey dikidera you just got reported to admin, watch your mouth when you go out in public. That goes to you too clipse
So? And two, it's not me that should watch it, but you.

chill down would you, don't be aggressive without reason. You came here asking for help in a rude way and making ppl feel uncomfortable. If you continue like this an admin would take actions

edit: I assure you i'd prefer helping ppl not reporting them

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July 21, 2011, 09:55:34 PM
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hey dikidera you just got reported to admin, watch your mouth when you go out in public. That goes to you too clipse

I called him on what he is, a kid and a fat troll which are all within technical internet references.

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July 21, 2011, 09:57:56 PM
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hey dikidera you just got reported to admin, watch your mouth when you go out in public. That goes to you too clipse

I called him on what he is, a kid and a fat troll which are all within technical internet references.

yeah but you don't solve nothing if you provoke, ignore him and in the end he will take some of his precious time to read the thread if he wants

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July 21, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
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Got a PM:

Calling me a loser means insta-death. And i think my post was pretty straightforward.

Lol.  Wonder if his parents know he is mining on their computer instead of doing his homework?

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July 21, 2011, 10:06:31 PM
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... It currently forces you to use EVERY pool specified in the password.py file. AND I DONT WANT THAT.

it work like this, if you have skills with python you're welcome to give a hand to the project

It doesnt support neither slush nor deepbit...


No need to support it, slush has it's score system and deepbit delays stats and has PPS if you want to mine with them

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July 21, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
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Got a PM:

Calling me a loser means insta-death. And i think my post was pretty straightforward.

Lol.  Wonder if his parents know he is mining on their computer instead of doing his homework?
It's not like i was hiding the PM. I just want you to learn, you don't ever fuck with diki. It's the other way around Wink
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Got a PM:

Calling me a loser means insta-death. And i think my post was pretty straightforward.

Lol.  Wonder if his parents know he is mining on their computer instead of doing his homework?
It's not like i was hiding the PM. I just want you to learn, you don't ever fuck with diki. It's the other way around Wink

we share info like all the other ppl on this forum, share some of your experience if you like

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July 21, 2011, 10:12:25 PM
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40 pages to get a troll... well, let's kill the suspense:

you are all just like Hitler... a bunch of nazis!

Godwin's law satisfied, now back to hopping.

One last observation, @1bitc0inplz, I don't know if it was faking stats to hoppers or what, but your luck seems like it's taken a hit.

Shame too. I like the minimalist feel of your site.

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July 21, 2011, 10:14:37 PM
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One last observation, @1bitc0inplz, I don't know if it was faking stats to hoppers or what, but your luck seems like it's taken a hit.

Shame too. I like the minimalist feel of your site.

Yea, I brought up that point in their thread starting here:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12181.msg381404#msg381404


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July 21, 2011, 10:25:15 PM
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One last observation, @1bitc0inplz, I don't know if it was faking stats to hoppers or what, but your luck seems like it's taken a hit.

Shame too. I like the minimalist feel of your site.

Yea, I brought up that point in their thread starting here:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12181.msg381404#msg381404



from what I understand is they're getting less per share because of hoppers and find more blocks too which in the long run = better payouts

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July 21, 2011, 10:39:02 PM
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One last observation, @1bitc0inplz, I don't know if it was faking stats to hoppers or what, but your luck seems like it's taken a hit.

Shame too. I like the minimalist feel of your site.

Yea, I brought up that point in their thread starting here:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12181.msg381404#msg381404



from what I understand is they're getting less per share because of hoppers and find more blocks too which in the long run = better payouts

meanwhile, hop friendly mtred is ON FIRE with a 49 minute round followed by a 4 hour round!

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July 21, 2011, 10:42:23 PM
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from what I understand is they're getting less per share because of hoppers and find more blocks too which in the long run = better payouts

From what little I observed of hopping, that seems to be the case.  It may just be one massive coincidence that ever since bitp.it took measures against hopping that they had a 90 hour round, but I don't believe in coincidences like that.  The guy who runs bitp.it said that with hopping happening, his regular users were getting payments of 75% of normal.

75% payout on 9 blocks in 143 hours seems to be better than 100% payout on 1 block in 90 hours and counting to me.  IDK.

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July 21, 2011, 10:48:11 PM
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from what I understand is they're getting less per share because of hoppers and find more blocks too which in the long run = better payouts

From what little I observed of hopping, that seems to be the case.  It may just be one massive coincidence that ever since bitp.it took measures against hopping that they had a 90 hour round, but I don't believe in coincidences like that.  The guy who runs bitp.it said that with hopping happening, his regular users were getting payments of 75% of normal.

75% payout on 9 blocks in 143 hours seems to be better than 100% payout on 1 block in 90 hours and counting to me.  IDK.


haha you're right, dunno if they will accept making a test for 5 days with hopper boost after they find this block, it's a long shot I know just to see if it is only pure luck (edit: in the name of pc science Smiley )

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July 21, 2011, 10:49:24 PM
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@Dikidera, everyone on a forum gets pounded on every now and the -  if you're as 4-channy as you seem you know that. We've all posted things on the spur of the moment we're not proud of, and we've all has people annoy us and there is always the temptation to keep the flame burning. But there is never an excuse for using all caps. So let's just pretend page 39 edit 39 and 40 didn't happen and start again.

I'm sure you could spend time 4-channing us, but this is a really good proxy once you understand how it works and why.

1. Pool hopping currently works well only on proportional pools and only when you have access to non-delayed total shares. Neither btcguild or deepbit provide usable total share stats.
2. bitHopper provides a user stats page you can access on your browser on 127.0.0.1 which shows efficiency. You'll be able to see it work and see how far ahead you are by using it.
3. Since I've been using bitHopper I've had 140% to 200% efficiency on pools we use, for a total of 160%. Multipool's efficiency is around 120%.
4. Challenges coming up: loss of usable pools stats.

If you do have real coding skills (which is what I assume you're referring to when you recommend we don't anger you, and not that you've had an accident with a radioactive substance and go green and ragey when you get cranky) then help the project! We could do with someone helping with html scraping.


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July 21, 2011, 11:08:55 PM
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yep, just like I said before, ozco.in took measures against the kangaroos... 

@c00w pls add polmine.pl and bitparking when you can, I just lack the python knowledge to do it from the ryouiki's fork . thanks

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July 21, 2011, 11:15:17 PM
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*cough*cough*hoppersden invite thru PM*someone PLZ with cheez*cough cough*mtred rox*bitcoins.lc WTF they didnt kick me, but shares up and down*btcguild told me 3 weeks ago: no, i will not do something against hoppers (arrrr, we got you in the end)*eclipsemc: got some free shares as i thought thought still pp*hahaha*multipool is nice, but a mess*bithopper rox but needs more "simultaneous" connections (possible?) to slow for my farm sometimes*me probably the only one in the Interwebs running multipool after bithopper Wink

Hello everyone, I like dem pirates and publicly announce my piracy Wink My goods been stolen too long. i had to drink a lotta rum to become... ahopper Smiley

tl:dr??!!! gimme invite to hoppersden?!, ARRRRR!

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July 21, 2011, 11:31:18 PM
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from what I understand is they're getting less per share because of hoppers and find more blocks too which in the long run = better payouts

From what little I observed of hopping, that seems to be the case.  It may just be one massive coincidence that ever since bitp.it took measures against hopping that they had a 90 hour round, but I don't believe in coincidences like that.  The guy who runs bitp.it said that with hopping happening, his regular users were getting payments of 75% of normal.

75% payout on 9 blocks in 143 hours seems to be better than 100% payout on 1 block in 90 hours and counting to me.  IDK.


haha you're right, dunno if they will accept making a test for 5 days with hopper boost after they find this block, it's a long shot I know just to see if it is only pure luck (edit: in the name of pc science Smiley )

@muyoso: Look, I understand why it looks like pools do better with hoppers, but if this current block on bitpit is looooong because they've lost a hashboost because of no hoppers then each share is with more and the full time miners still come out ahead. The limiting case is solo mining, and in a proportional pool you get a proportion of the 50 coins.

As long as the block is solved near <difficulty> total shares, the full time miners come out ahead.

If the block is taking forever because total shares are way past <difficulty>, then full time miners are losing out - but this is simple Poisson variance and in no way can be affected by when miners start or leave. You're right - in this game there are no coincidences. But there are regularly very long blocks and with only 6 pools to choose from long blocks will happen to at least one of them. It has a high enough probability that it is not a coincidence.

Can we call this closed now? Hoppers can only benefit pools, not full time miners.

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