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July 30, 2011, 03:14:25 PM
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you forgot to tell us how you launch it (exact command and what dir)
in dir /home/xxx/test_4/bitHopper/
python bitHopper.py


happened to me too a while ago, it was the archive extractor's fault not overwriting all files
try this:

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cd ~

rm -r bitHopper/

git clone https://github.com/c00w/bitHopper.git

#and for every update run

git pull

#in bitHopper's dir

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July 30, 2011, 03:20:14 PM
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By putting in this stupid statement we all now agree that poolhopping doesn't increase the pie.
It only increases the piece of the pie of the poolhoppers.

So, it's stealing from the honest miner that stays at the pool.

You could ask "so, why don't they start Poolhopping?"
If everyone would start Poolhopping, it won't have any use...
You only take from miners who knowingly choose to get paid less per share than on any *PPS pool out there (once 100% of difficulty in shares has been reached). If they WANT to mine at a known loss, it's their business.

If everyone started poolhopping, the backup pools would be crammed full and bitHopper would just be a failover proxy between them with some stats display. All prop. pools would be empty once they take longer to solve a block than 43.5% of difficulty in shares.

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July 30, 2011, 03:23:02 PM
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please don't feed the trolls ppl
they have various moral and ethical threads where they can practice their abilities freely

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July 30, 2011, 03:37:54 PM
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Anyways, I'd actually like everyone to use bitHopper and just screw these proportional pools out of existence that make profit from less experienced users. (in Prop. the bigggest winner from hopping isn't the hopper but the pool operator!)

Anyone know of ways to script py2exe with the git commits, to provide a simple single win32 executable at each commit?

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July 30, 2011, 03:40:11 PM
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Code:
cd ~
rm -r bitHopper/
git clone https://github.com/c00w/bitHopper.git
I have done this with the same result.... Huh
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July 30, 2011, 03:54:36 PM
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Code:
cd ~
rm -r bitHopper/
git clone https://github.com/c00w/bitHopper.git
I have done this with the same result.... Huh

wow, this one's tricky

anterior versions worked for you or this is the first time you run the script ?

edit: I see you had working versions there, from your posts, so dunno why last ver. is not working for you

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July 30, 2011, 03:59:27 PM
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I have seen several instances with miners being stuck with the work queue empty.  I'm guessing LP must be getting stuck, and not returning data, but I don't know yet.  Looking into it, but takes a while for the behavior to exhibit itself, so debugging is a bitch.  Anyone have an idea of a fix?
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July 30, 2011, 04:06:07 PM
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I have seen several instances with miners being stuck with the work queue empty.  I'm guessing LP must be getting stuck, and not returning data, but I don't know yet.  Looking into it, but takes a while for the behavior to exhibit itself, so debugging is a bitch.  Anyone have an idea of a fix?

various instances on where ? I think still has some LP bugs and running more than one instance on the same machine gets you that

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July 30, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
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I only have one instance of bitHopper running, but the miners rarely, but occasionally stop getting work
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July 30, 2011, 05:01:09 PM
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I only have one instance of bitHopper running, but the miners rarely, but occasionally stop getting work

more testing needed to get on this one
btw gnaget, how would I change the threshold for mine_friendly if I want for ex. 500% and where in the code ?

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July 30, 2011, 05:19:56 PM
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We should rename mine_friendly to mine_charity or mine_philanthropic or mine_pr.
By calling it friendly it implies that other forms are unfriendly. So in an attempt to create goodwill it reinforces the stereotype that other hopping is negative.
mine_charity separates other mining as the business ventures they are and shows that some miners are also charity or philanthropic minded.

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July 30, 2011, 05:25:43 PM
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anterior versions worked for you or this is the first time you run the script ?
now I have rebooted and also the old versions are no longer running...
if I start cgminer@localhost:
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No pools active! Exiting.
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a few hours ago this was ok... *confused*

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July 30, 2011, 05:32:33 PM
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Dont lie Wink

You made all the original comments before feeling the need to invest time to understand poolhopping better Smiley

Once you decided to stop being lazy you realised that poolhopping is very practical.

I just find it mildly amusing how you changed your stance completely, but welcome to the side of the good guys.

I will acknowledge it is a shit load more work - that's what makes it more fun.  I actually pride myself on being able to take in new information and change my stance.  I never understood the concept of make up your mind, and stick to it no matter what.  It's that kind of crack thinking that got us into 2 wars
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regardless of your conversion experience welcome to the church. You are our very own Saul of Tarsus.

Wow, nice reference. It's not every day someone makes a reference to the holy text of one of the big three (the Abramic religions) that I actually have to google Wink

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July 30, 2011, 05:44:37 PM
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oh boy this thread got derailed allot  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

plz go on  Grin /popcorn

We're at page 89, I'm not sure anyone here remembers what the topic on page 1 was without heading over to look  Tongue

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July 30, 2011, 06:31:06 PM
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api_errors:
Um, no idea. Can you run with --debug and then throw the log in pastebin and give me a link?

info not showing?
I fixed it.

cgminer?
I think you have to give it a username and password....
I'll try with my copy.

EDIT:
My copy of cgminer work with:

cgminer -O x:x -o http://localhost:8337

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July 30, 2011, 06:35:24 PM
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role:info still doesn't seem to draw graphs.
Should be line 162 in index.html as far as I understand.

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July 30, 2011, 06:36:34 PM
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Its already fixed. Update

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July 30, 2011, 06:45:44 PM
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I have not seen any real data that pool hopping actually gets people more BTC.
Yes there is the theory you get 15% more or whatever but is it coming out that way in actual pactice?

there must be some sort of lag time when connecting to a new server in which your miner is doing no work. This lag IMHO probably eats up the tiny advantage.

If anyone has any contradictory data , I'd like to hear it.
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July 30, 2011, 06:50:16 PM
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I have not seen any real data that pool hopping actually gets people more BTC.
Yes there is the theory you get 15% more or whatever but is it coming out that way in actual pactice?

there must be some sort of lag time when connecting to a new server in which your miner is doing no work. This lag IMHO probably eats up the tiny advantage.

If anyone has any contradictory data , I'd like to hear it.

In the 5 days I was actually monitoring what I was making from all the pools, I was making 170% of what I usually or should make on average.  So yes, it works.

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July 30, 2011, 06:54:01 PM
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there is plenty of contradictory data in this thread.

but if you want an easy example.. look at triple mining right now 8.5 million shares and no block yet.

if I was a non hopping miner there my shares would be nearly worthless right now..

So instead of staying there, adding share after worthless share.. I'm on another site which just found a block. I'm hoping that they find a block in less than 8.5 million shares, which is pretty likely. SO my shares that I am giving to a pool right now are most likely going to be worth more than the shares at triplemining which i know to be pretty much worthless right now.

there is a reason why this thread is so busy and it's not cause we have not checked our results.

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