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August 13, 2014, 10:41:10 PM
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You folks should have done the same,hope you all get back as much as you can  Wink

Lot of us are direct orders and totally stuck.
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Back when I thought about ordering from BA myself,Minersource had just announced that they were taking preorders, in December....so I just got lucky  Roll Eyes

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August 14, 2014, 03:51:43 AM
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Just received DHL tracking number for my 32xx and 31xx orders (direct BA order).
Should be 10x Prospero X3 + 5x compensation units.
My orders have been marked as completed.

I should have had 5 days of hosting, but it looks it has been skipped.
I received my ten psu for compensation units weeks ago.

I really don't know what to expect next Monday when goods will arrive (tracking is for only one package, which looks little bit worrying).

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August 14, 2014, 03:54:03 AM
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Paid for by your pre orders .. Or the BTC mined with your pre orders ..


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August 14, 2014, 03:58:01 AM
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Just received DHL tracking number for my 32xx and 31xx orders (direct BA order).
Should be 10x Prospero X3 + 5x compensation units.
My orders have been marked as completed.

I should have had 5 days of hosting, but it looks it has been skipped.
I received my ten psu for compensation units weeks ago.

I really don't know what to expect next Monday when goods will arrive (tracking is for only one package, which looks little bit worrying).

Eric (Paris Bitcoin center) 

So you have 10 X3 ordered but are receiving only 1 X3? This is pathetic.  Black Arrow you disappoint me yet again.
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August 14, 2014, 04:04:14 AM
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Just received DHL tracking number for my 32xx and 31xx orders (direct BA order).
Should be 10x Prospero X3 + 5x compensation units.
My orders have been marked as completed.

I should have had 5 days of hosting, but it looks it has been skipped.
I received my ten psu for compensation units weeks ago.

I really don't know what to expect next Monday when goods will arrive (tracking is for only one package, which looks little bit worrying).

Eric (Paris Bitcoin center) 

So you have 10 X3 ordered but are receiving only 1 X3? This is pathetic.  Black Arrow you disappoint me yet again.

I didn't say that. I got only one tracking number for what should be 30 hashing units, which looks surprising. I'll know for sure next Monday.

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August 14, 2014, 04:05:20 AM
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Just received DHL tracking number for my 32xx and 31xx orders (direct BA order).
Should be 10x Prospero X3 + 5x compensation units.
My orders have been marked as completed.

I should have had 5 days of hosting, but it looks it has been skipped.
I received my ten psu for compensation units weeks ago.

I really don't know what to expect next Monday when goods will arrive (tracking is for only one package, which looks little bit worrying).

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Order date please? :-)  compensation units will be shipped later. :-( so only 20 units at the moment you will receive
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August 14, 2014, 04:06:33 AM
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Just received DHL tracking number for my 32xx and 31xx orders (direct BA order).
Should be 10x Prospero X3 + 5x compensation units.
My orders have been marked as completed.

I should have had 5 days of hosting, but it looks it has been skipped.
I received my ten psu for compensation units weeks ago.

I really don't know what to expect next Monday when goods will arrive (tracking is for only one package, which looks little bit worrying).

Eric (Paris Bitcoin center)  

Order date please? :-)
Certainly after mine when I'm direct BA batch one 17xx, and I don't have anything yet.

To be decided...
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August 14, 2014, 04:11:23 AM
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I really don't know what to expect next Monday when goods will arrive (tracking is for only one package, which looks little bit worrying).

Eric (Paris Bitcoin center)  

Be positive :-) maybe it's one massive giant enormous package
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August 14, 2014, 04:11:44 AM
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My orders are from mid December 2013 (and payment confirmation was extremely fast)

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August 14, 2014, 04:32:54 AM
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BA reply to my email

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As per Management’s update, we cannot afford to send refunds as we've spent all money to purchase parts required to build the miners. If we cancel your order we have nothing to do with the cases, power supplies and other goods that have been manufactured just for your order. For this reason it is difficult for us to refund everything.

Is this my problem?

SCAM       they have lived with customers money, no investments at all...
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August 14, 2014, 04:42:49 AM
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Just received DHL tracking number for my 32xx and 31xx orders (direct BA order).
Should be 10x Prospero X3 + 5x compensation units.
My orders have been marked as completed.

I should have had 5 days of hosting, but it looks it has been skipped.
I received my ten psu for compensation units weeks ago.

I really don't know what to expect next Monday when goods will arrive (tracking is for only one package, which looks little bit worrying).

Eric (Paris Bitcoin center) 

So you have 10 X3 ordered but are receiving only 1 X3? This is pathetic.  Black Arrow you disappoint me yet again.

I didn't say that. I got only one tracking number for what should be 30 hashing units, which looks surprising. I'll know for sure next Monday.

Does your DHL tracking list a weight? If you are receiving 30 X3's but have only 1 tracking number then DHL would have to deliver them on a pallet.
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August 14, 2014, 05:54:02 AM
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Nobody which has a chinese lawyer? Even if there is so much money in the game?
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August 14, 2014, 01:49:03 PM
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The MS/TB GB isn't going so well, they just got told "next week" after the first shipping deadline was missed.

Also, yes, even with free Minions these miners+heat sinks cost as much as an S3.

Where are our space heaters Captain?

Wow, glad I didn't jump on that one too. I gave it a thought then thought better of it all spending good money after bad. Seems at least I made one good decision (two if you count ordering from Bitmain)
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August 14, 2014, 03:59:22 PM
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Finally I have good news, for me at least.  Took delivery of X3 today.  Direct BA order paid 3 Dec.

The units certainly look nice and came with a power cable (for what that's worth, but still nice).  There are a few issues, so even with it being nearly six months late (and worth maybe 25% of the purchase price), it doesn't seem to be a finished product.

Power on without ethernet connected = it doesn't work, fans run at full speed (and it's incredibly noisy!) but nothing happens.  LCD lights up, nobody home.  Buttons do nothing.
Connect ethernet whilst powered = weird stuff happens, but it doesn't connect to the network.
Power cycle = problematic, PSU shows "alert" indicator but system not responsive.  Fixed by turning off the power and removing the PSU.

LCD seems wasted right now.  It runs Android 4.2.2 but does nothing interesting.  Leave it for a while, the screen will turn off (like any Android phone/tablet) but then it doesn't seem to be possible to activate it again.  None of the buttons below the LCD seem to do anything except Power, which does turn off the miner - but then you have to actually power-cycle the system to get it up again!  At least when I did it this way, the system did come back without issue.

Web interface - system defaults to using DHCP, which has the benefit of working for most people who may not have 192.168.1.x subnet, but means that you need to find it!  Once you've done one, it will find others by itself, which is handy.  My router lists the miners as "android-0123456789abcdef" (unique 16-digit hex code).  If you don't have DHCP?  I think the answer is probably get DHCP!

By default, device starts mining.  No pools are configured, but it mines.  Possibly "benchmark" mode - speed is higher than you get in reality, but who knows really?  I can't get a terminal session to look at the configuration directly, log in is not the same as for the web interface.

Sync Network option is either flaky or just doesn't work.  I tried it, in order to copy the configuration from first unit to the second, and although it appeared to work in the web interface the second unit didn't actually get the configuration.  I ended up configuring it separately any way.

At default "1000Hz" setting it's using just over 1kW.

If this had been delivered in March, I'd be quite pleased.  But it wasn't.
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August 14, 2014, 04:10:50 PM
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People screaming about injustice here need an attitude adjustment, seriously.

"OMG I didnt get my magic internet money making machine in time to make money wahhhhhhh wahhhh"

BOO FING HOO. File Black Arrow among the countless businesses people have invested in that failed. Shit happens.

We gambled and lost. Thats it. Dont act like a baby.

Accepting personal responsibility for making a poor choice to preorder a product which wasnt even fully designed rests squarely on YOU.

Acknowledge your role in this fiasco. Stop blaming everyone else for YOUR failure to make a good investment.

I don't believe that this is a loss. Once the chips are turn into miners or people start receiving equipment from BA you will start earning BTC. The question is will prices rise or will they continue to go down. Even if we didn't buy from BA and purchased S3's with the declining price of BTC it makes it harder to ROI. Holding BTC is also a risk because if you purchased in the higher range now you are looking a loss.  Some would say that the best option now is to get out of cryptos and move on with life.
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August 14, 2014, 04:21:38 PM
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ETA on Minersource orders?

Just curious on what order numbers/paid date are being delivered from Minersource?

I am orders:
X1 #1197/#1197A Paid Dec 13 2013
X1 #2411/#2411A Paid April 29 2014 (Batch 1 Order)
PSU #2780 Paid May 11th

Just curious what number they are up to in shipping.

If you have received your X1 recently could you post your order number so I can get an estimate of when mine might arrive?
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August 14, 2014, 04:40:21 PM
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By default, device starts mining.  No pools are configured, but it mines.  Possibly "benchmark" mode - speed is higher than you get in reality, but who knows really?  I can't get a terminal session to look at the configuration directly, log in is not the same as for the web interface.

ssh ba@192.168.X.X
password = ba

Or access the LCD through a browser: http://<ip address>/lcd
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August 14, 2014, 05:41:08 PM
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ETA on Minersource orders?

Just curious on what order numbers/paid date are being delivered from Minersource?

I am orders:
X1 #1197/#1197A Paid Dec 13 2013
X1 #2411/#2411A Paid April 29 2014 (Batch 1 Order)
PSU #2780 Paid May 11th

Just curious what number they are up to in shipping.

If you have received your X1 recently could you post your order number so I can get an estimate of when mine might arrive?

if you look back a few pages you will see Atomar received his X-1 form MS 2 weeks ago and has sold it,he paid on Dec/13/13,I and others have paid well befor that and have nothing.
I paid on Dec/03/13 and have been told 3 times my x-1 will ship next but I have nothing yet.

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August 14, 2014, 05:56:11 PM
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ETA on Minersource orders?

Just curious on what order numbers/paid date are being delivered from Minersource?

I am orders:
X1 #1197/#1197A Paid Dec 13 2013
X1 #2411/#2411A Paid April 29 2014 (Batch 1 Order)
PSU #2780 Paid May 11th

Just curious what number they are up to in shipping.

If you have received your X1 recently could you post your order number so I can get an estimate of when mine might arrive?

if you look back a few pages you will see Atomar received his X-1 form MS 2 weeks ago and has sold it,he paid on Dec/13/13,I and others have paid well befor that and have nothing.
I paid on Dec/03/13 and have been told 3 times my x-1 will ship next but I have nothing yet.

I was wrong I ordered on Dec 14 not 13.

Did you order more at a latter time?
I wonder if maybe since I ordered my 2nd one in april they will be shipped together. Ideally all 3 with the extra PSU.
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August 14, 2014, 06:02:42 PM
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ssh ba@192.168.X.X
password = ba

Thank you very much :-)
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