[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[I_HAVE_A_HUGE_DONG]

I have made the test of placing an order (without completing the payment) and I didn't see an estimated shipping date anywhere. According to the site the products are available and the $200 shipping fee should have it at my place (Europe) in less than 4 days.

Yep this is the problem, we don't have 10% of the mining power of one of these machines and yet the website is telling people they can have them in a matter of days.

Ken you really need to sort out the site, I doubt you will have to refund people as you have not taken any payments.

Please Ken stop with selling miners and focus on our hashrate. Please.

Oh but you can pay! I have no idea what amount of sales are paid or not.
I didn't try the pay with bitcoin feature I don't know if its bitpay or if the bitcoin are kept.

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[drawingthesun]

finlof, is that stock amount new on the website do you know? I haven't noticed it before

Its always been there, in the code, but normally the pre-order thing replaces it. Looks like finlof half loaded the page or his web browser is incorrectly loading html.

the page was not half loaded (give me some credit i'm not a moron).  i tried from firefox, chrome, and IE to make sure it wasnt a bug specific to one browser.  i even checked on my of my client's machines from a different state and it showed even MORE stock.  now it is showing "Availability: PREPAID PREORDER" again.

Well this makes no sense, is the website having a spasm?

[drawingthesun]

VE why can't you criticize Ken like a civilized person instead of being so vulgar and abusive?

[drawingthesun]

VE can't you criticize Ken like a civilized person instead of being so vulgar and abusive?

Fuck no.  He took away my chance at a large fortune.. I had a lot of value in bitcoin and I could have a shitload of money right now if he wasn't such a piece of shit

Last I heard you dumped a huge amount of shares at the peak, your doing better financially than most of us here.

Then you should all be pissed

Why? I have lost so much money but there is nothing left to do except hope Ken gets lots of TH/s online.

Like I said, I need ActiveMining to maintain 3% of the network for a breakeven point. I can't do anything except hope that Ken gets the chips and puts them all into a farm asap.

[drawingthesun]

Why? I have lost so much money but there is nothing left to do except hope Ken gets lots of TH/s online.

Like I said, I need ActiveMining to maintain 3% of the network for a breakeven point. I can't do anything except hope that Ken gets the chips and puts them all into a farm asap.

What has he done so far to show that he is competent enough to accomplish this?  Every time he opens his mouth he pukes stupidity.. I have no idea why I ever decided to trust this guy

I think you are missing my point... I have no choice but to wait this investment/gamble out, I have no other option.

The way I see it, if the extra hashpower is from a working prototype then when the low volume batch comes in Ken should be able to get those hashing too, if he got 1 machine hashing why not get more hashing?

The question comes down to this: How many chips does ken get for the low volume batch? I need 19,000 at least for this investment to start to make sense.

[Bargraphics]

VE can't you criticize Ken like a civilized person instead of being so vulgar and abusive?

Fuck no.  He took away my chance at a large fortune.. I had a lot of value in bitcoin and I could have a shitload of money right now if he wasn't such a piece of shit

Last I heard you dumped a huge amount of shares at the peak, your doing better financially than most of us here.

Then you should all be pissed

Why? I have lost so much money but there is nothing left to do except hope Ken gets lots of TH/s online.

Like I said, I need ActiveMining to maintain 3% of the network for a breakeven point. I can't do anything except hope that Ken gets the chips and puts them all into a farm asap.

What has he done so far to show that he is competent enough to accomplish this?  Every time he opens his mouth he pukes stupidity.. I have no idea why I ever decided to trust this guy

Most of us take responsibility for our own investments wins or losses.

Luckily my 7TH worth of KnC Miners have more than made up for this investment along with a few others not pulling their own weight.

While it would be Kens fault if this venture fails, it is ultimately each individual shareholders fault for losing their money by consciously investing in this.

Great news though is we still have a freckle of a chance that this will still be a success or even that we will recover most of the money we put into it as long as Ken has a working ASIC to show.

[minerpart]

Nothing worse than an uncivilised moron with a huge chip on his shoulder.

Poor VE isn't rich because Ken didn't do him a favour by dropping everything and transferring shares for him on demand. Do you think Ken is your personal stock broker or something? Get a life, grow up, and start talking to people how you would face to face and you might get on better in life. Blessed are the meek, not the abusive self-centred morons. Why you think anyone would do you a favour when you have that attitude is beyond me.



moron [ˈmɔːrɒn]
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1. a foolish or stupid person

[drawingthesun]

Although I feel like something is wrong. The low volume batch should have been delivered by now...

[themagicdrake]

Double plot twist: It was Labcoin making the purchase.  


 

Triple twist it was just me trying to see if customers where actually asked to pay.

Proof: login on yopmail with "cattogocy-7562"
I even put 22 Acacia Avenue as an address (obviously fake right?)

What I didn't expect was the announcement here before any actual payment!

Ken's announcement was hours before those emails

[minerpart]

The main thing to take from this Million dollar order for 6 machines - whether it is genuine or some malicious attack - is that Ken accepted the order and came on here to let us know about it.

That tells us a lot of things:

We can manufacture and deliver the order in good time - the chips work, they perform as advertised.
We can make 6miners that are capable of taking 3% of total hash - for customers.
If we can do the above we can put enough miners on our own farm to make serious money.
Ken is keen to start sharing more details about our retail sales.

So even if it was a deliberately false order, the fact that Ken said we can fill this huge order is pretty significant.

[drawingthesun]

The main thing to take from this Million dollar order for 6 machines - whether it is genuine or some malicious attack - is that Ken accepted the order and came on here to let us know about it.

That tells us a lot of things:

We can manufacture and deliver the order in good time - the chips work, they perform as advertised.
We can make 6miners that are capable of taking 3% of total hash - for customers.
If we can do the above we can put enough miners on our own farm to make serious money.
Ken is keen to start sharing more details about our retail sales.

So even if it was a deliberately false order, the fact that Ken said we can fill the order is pretty significant.

Trust me, I want to believe!

If Ken can really hit 3% of the network and sell all this gear by the end of November I promise to stop bitching!

Just one of those machines would make more Bitcoin in one day than what has been accumulating in our mining address over the past 2 weeks.

[finlof]

VE can't you criticize Ken like a civilized person instead of being so vulgar and abusive?

Fuck no.  He took away my chance at a large fortune.. I had a lot of value in bitcoin and I could have a shitload of money right now if he wasn't such a piece of shit

come on now VE, you gambled and lost, just like a lot of people.  if you trusted Ken to deliver without any proof then that is on you.

[neilol]

Double plot twist: It was Labcoin making the purchase.  


 

Triple twist it was just me trying to see if customers where actually asked to pay.

Proof: login on yopmail with "cattogocy-7562"
I even put 22 Acacia Avenue as an address (obviously fake right?)

What I didn't expect was the announcement here before any actual payment!

Ken's announcement was hours before those emails

Can you prove this, emails seem to have been deleted. did anyone forward them? I would like to take a look at the headers and compare them with another VMC email

[drawingthesun]

come on now VE, you gambled and lost, just like a lot of people.  if you trusted Ken to deliver without any proof then that is on you.

Finlof, I am not sure VE lost, he unloaded 6 figure amount of shares at the peak so he has made perhaps 1,000 bitcoin at least from ActiveMining.

[finlof]

come on now VE, you gambled and lost, just like a lot of people.  if you trusted Ken to deliver without any proof then that is on you.

Finlof, I am not sure VE lost, he unloaded 6 figure amount of shares at the peak so he has made perhaps 1,000 bitcoin at least from ActiveMining.

nah if that were the case then he wouldnt be bitching.  he lost money if he is acting this way.

[Stuartuk]

I'm not trying to convince you dts, or to stop your 'bitching' as you call it, and in fact I wasn't even addressing this comment to you, it was a general comment about this order business, I too think the order is not important!!!

In other words, we are a mining company first - and a seller of rigs to customers second. So if we can sell to customers we can MINE for ourselves.

[drawingthesun]

I'm not trying to convince you dts, or to stop your 'bitching' as you call it, and in fact I wasn't even addressing this comment to you, it was a general comment about this order business.

Thats ok. I get the feeling I am bitching a bit, not based on your comment at all.

I just want us mining. If we are taking orders for hundreds of TH/s I wonder where our TH/s are?

This order Ken told us about, if we had those machines that would allow us to mine more bitcoin than our mining address has ever received inside of a week.

Its one of those too good to be true things you know.

That order contains over 100 times our entire mining capability.

[zefyr0s]

come on now VE, you gambled and lost, just like a lot of people.  if you trusted Ken to deliver without any proof then that is on you.

Finlof, I am not sure VE lost, he unloaded 6 figure amount of shares at the peak so he has made perhaps 1,000 bitcoin at least from ActiveMining.

nah if that were the case then he wouldnt be bitching.  he lost money if he is acting this way.

He isn't dumb. Could be playing the market on bitfunder. =/

[Stuartuk]

nah if that were the case then he wouldnt be bitching.  he lost money if he is acting this way.

+1

I agree 100% that if VE was in profit over ACtM we would NOT be having to deal with his awful disrespect for people.

But when people keep talking to him and taking on his posts and replying he will just keep on with his personal vendeta. He has nothing useful to say about the company anymore. He just uses personal attacks and wise-crack comments. So can we just ignore this loser now?

[Stuartuk]

I'm not trying to convince you dts, or to stop your 'bitching' as you call it, and in fact I wasn't even addressing this comment to you, it was a general comment about this order business.

Thats ok. I get the feeling I am bitching a bit, not based on your comment at all.

I just want us mining. If we are taking orders for hundreds of TH/s I wonder where our TH/s are?

This order Ken told us about, if we had those machines that would allow us to mine more bitcoin than our mining address has ever received inside of a week.

Its one of those too good to be true things you know.

That order contains over 100 times our entire mining capability.

Sure but it's a pre-order. So it's for a machine being assembled as we speak. It makes sense that as soon as we can mine for ourselves we should ship big orders so our ACtM mining will go up at the same time as we start shipping and probably not a long time before. Possibly a matter of days.