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March 09, 2018, 04:39:28 PM
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Mmm...I like the idea to send fake identity (not too difficul to create fake passports); but I'm not so sure they can't verify.
I'm pretty sure that at least big company have connection in the government and can acces a people data base (a normal airport scanner would be enough)

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March 09, 2018, 04:43:39 PM
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This is really a question about the legitimacy of KYC, we all know from a fact that KYC can be easily done without sending your real identity. Some people send fake documents for their own purpose, eg. Security and disclosure of their identity, I myself don't want to get involve in KYC that's why I prefer to buy in exchange than in ICO, but now looks like more exchange might require KYC for their costumer. The problem now how can they validate if the submitted ID's are real?

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March 09, 2018, 04:53:40 PM
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Mmm...I like the idea to send fake identity (not too difficul to create fake passports); but I'm not so sure they can't verify.
I'm pretty sure that at least big company have connection in the government and can acces a people data base (a normal airport scanner would be enough)
Yeah youre right they can truly monitor the government list of scanner thats why they produce kyc.And we should responsible enough to give our true identity so that the honesty will still the best way of all.
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March 09, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
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Mmm...I like the idea to send fake identity (not too difficul to create fake passports); but I'm not so sure they can't verify.
I'm pretty sure that at least big company have connection in the government and can acces a people data base (a normal airport scanner would be enough)
Yeah youre right they can truly monitor the government list of scanner thats why they produce kyc.And we should responsible enough to give our true identity so that the honesty will still the best way of all.
If scammers so stupid they don't participate in bounty and ICO. Teams afraid that SEC take them by the ass. That's why some of this need a KYC. Other will trade our docs. All simply. Do not need to complicate things
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March 09, 2018, 05:33:04 PM
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As we know, many ICOs now use the KYC to claim the tokens or coins. However, Some people may be difficult to fulfill and the KYC because of some problems. Especially, they are in the region that is forbidden to join the ICO. In this situation, some people use the fake ID. Actually, this action is unfair to some people even some others think that it is the only way to pass the KYC. However, I'm really sure that each developer has owned the high technology and concept to see which one able to pass the KYC fairly. But, when you can really send the real ID, why not?

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March 09, 2018, 06:12:41 PM
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I agree what you say, the company that receives the KYC should be careful to check the incoming identity data, because if it is still like that, it is unfair to the person sending the real data.

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March 09, 2018, 06:31:59 PM
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it all depends on the project in which you are ready to provide your data and how much you have invested in it! I do not think that you think of this idea if you invest in a project for example $10,000 and then he finds out that you sent false documents, what will happen to your money? Of course you will lose them! but if you participate in the bounty and they ask you to go through the procedure KYC you do not lose anything from your exposure except their time and possible profits in the future!

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March 09, 2018, 06:38:55 PM
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There is nothing wrong in asking KYC (actually, in some situations is mandatory); what is really irritating is when the ask for your papers at the END of a campaign!
(that probably you hadn't started if you knew of this request)
It's a real problem, and probably we'll se more and more situations where some "entities" will ask our ID.
We'll see.

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March 09, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
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Its a catch 22 situation, freezing your investment for false documents, or taking the risk of giving out personal documentation. Just dont get into things or trust blindly.
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March 09, 2018, 07:42:20 PM
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Like it or not, in the future will have more and more requests to identify ourselves, and it will be more and more difficult to keep our anonymity.
Actually, it will be possible, but probably it will become illegal, and it will be very difficult to make any movement.

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March 09, 2018, 07:51:10 PM
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Like it or not, in the future will have more and more requests to identify ourselves, and it will be more and more difficult to keep our anonymity.
Actually, it will be possible, but probably it will become illegal, and it will be very difficult to make any movement.

Then you find out why they call this technology BLOCK CHAIN.  Keep sending in your information boys.  And if you make money make sure to buy Lambo's and expensive homes. 
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March 09, 2018, 08:47:40 PM
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Like it or not, in the future will have more and more requests to identify ourselves, and it will be more and more difficult to keep our anonymity.
Actually, it will be possible, but probably it will become illegal, and it will be very difficult to make any movement.

Then you find out why they call this technology BLOCK CHAIN.  Keep sending in your information boys.  And if you make money make sure to buy Lambo's and expensive homes.  

I fear they have no idea what they are promoting and getting into.  The KYC givers are on the list now for sure so in one respect they are harming the movement however they are so ignorant they are destroying themselves in the process so you can't really fault them as they don't posses the knowledge of what's happening.  They have also unsecured their documents as even the largest corporations are hacked.  Ignorance not so much evil.

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March 09, 2018, 09:57:04 PM
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I just was brought up to speed on groups of people sending in fake/Photoshopped ID's by scanning public records to defeat the KYC process and it seemingly is very easy to do.  It appears that many people sent in fake documentation to the Bob's and Polymath KYC and had no hassles.  How do these companies verify people if all they have to go on is public information?  Did they even really check the ID's or were they simply collected the data?  How rampant do you think this is?  How many of us are complete fools for turning in our documents when others simply faked it.  Now they have our data and the people who faked it are still secure.

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Exactly as you say they are very easily tricked by false IDs, I think not just KYC that is easy to cheat, other companies also the same they are very easily fooled because I personally have done it several times, when I help others whose requirements are rejected because they are not equipped with ID.
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March 09, 2018, 10:07:46 PM
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I just was brought up to speed on groups of people sending in fake/Photoshopped ID's by scanning public records to defeat the KYC process and it seemingly is very easy to do.  It appears that many people sent in fake documentation to the Bob's and Polymath KYC and had no hassles.  How do these companies verify people if all they have to go on is public information?  Did they even really check the ID's or were they simply collected the data?  How rampant do you think this is?  How many of us are complete fools for turning in our documents when others simply faked it.  Now they have our data and the people who faked it are still secure.

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Exactly as you say they are very easily tricked by false IDs, I think not just KYC that is easy to cheat, other companies also the same they are very easily fooled because I personally have done it several times, when I help others whose requirements are rejected because they are not equipped with ID.
Honestly, since September 2009 until now my activity is never far away with photoshop for me photoshop is a hobby that can't be separated.

Amen.  KYC is a ridiculous concept.  I don't trust my personal security to people on the internet and I surly don't send the passport where it can be grabbed in transit.   Photoshop gets around the issue every time.  I suspect they don't even check.  Just collecting the info for god knows what. 
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March 09, 2018, 10:22:59 PM
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Honestly, I don't encourage entering campaigns which are asking members to fill in KYC forms which is in itself despicably since it goes against everything crypto and bitcoin stands for. If everybody actively abandon such campaigns, the companies themselves will stop asking for KYC submissions. There are so many campaigns which don't require KYC submissions in order to earn profits. I don't encourage submitting fake KYC in order to earn profits since this could probably pose a problem to the person whose credentials you are submitting.
I know, those that are asking for that kind of information are doing it out of laziness they could have created their icos in a jurisdiction in which they did not needed to ask for that information but they choose not to do that, if people abandon those kind of campaigns then they will have no option but to try to relocate their project, in the future they will know that we are not going to accept that.

I absolutely agree with you. If all bounty hunters follow the line of action you are suggesting, soon or later changes will be made.
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March 10, 2018, 12:31:10 AM
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It is a gamble to send fake data and find your account frozen at a later point of distribution. For sure not an easy task checking IDs from dozens of countries.

I would be curious to know how many people have actually had their coins frozen later due to providing false information.

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March 10, 2018, 12:54:12 AM
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It surprises me that people send in anything else than fake id's.
How can you trust someone on a forum with your private documents.
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March 10, 2018, 10:22:46 AM
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I agree what you say, the company that receives the KYC should be careful to check the incoming identity data, because if it is still like that, it is unfair to the person sending the real data.

I think that there is no way to verify documents properly. Of course scammers and dishonest project participants use this. However, I suppose there is a huge amount of fake ICOs which collect and sell our personal documents and this is much worst. So where is the truth?



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March 10, 2018, 10:30:09 AM
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Yeah, many people do, most of them just afraid to give away their documents. I always submit my real docs, simply because I know that the leak of the documents means not too much as people might think
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March 10, 2018, 05:03:03 PM
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I can't understand how people can send in their real documents to anyone online. With the way these exchanges are getting hacked, there can't be anything worse than losing your personal documents to these hackers.
It is because their greed, they want to invest in a coin so badly that they are willing to do anything even if that means exposing themselves to great risks like identity theft they are not thinking of the future consequences of their actions it is very easy to dismiss  our concerns as being too paranoid but it's better to be safe than sorry and those that are sending their documents online are probably going to regret it in the future.

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