HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive

[B3dr0ck]

give me 1 reason to buy, i probably will.

1. Hobonickels has a nice dev, Tranz.
2. HBN coins are cheap at the moment.
3. HBN have a multi wallet.
4. Its a old and good coin. Easy to transfer money.
5. Tranz still has plans for his coin.
6. Updates comes fast, problems get fixed fast.
and so on...

Yes, i have some HBN coins because i like the coin and the work from Tranz. From time to time i stake my coins and try to support the HBN Blockchain.
Maybe the coin is never in the top 10 coinmarkcap, but i support the coin and dev.
But this is not a requirement to buy the coin.  

Wish Tranz and his Hobonickels are great future.

I completely agree here.  I've been involved in Alts since 2013, and HBN is the only coin from back then that I still mess with (besides LTC, but that doesn't count).  I always wanted a good POS coin, and HBN still seems like the survivor.  Just look at the run up of price in BTC, and HBN still holds its value. 

As long as:
1) the developer is somewhat active, and responsive
2) there is some community
3) the network syncs, and there are peers
4) the wallet works, and stakes
5) there is an exchange with HBN

Then I'm in.  Seems like a good bet.  It's a very small part of my port. but it's worth my time to maintain.

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[Tranz]

It looks like I may have forced the hand of H2C.  I had mined HBN there, and since the 2.0 fork, I have not been able to get my HBN withdraw.  I finally opened a ticket.  I got a reply last night, and got the deposit.  (my interpretation - they finally updated their wallet to the correct chain)

In anycase today, they sent this out

   Subject:   
      [ HASH-TO-COINS ] H2C These coins will be deleted in a week
   From:   
   HASH-TO-COINS<poolmaster@hash-to-coins.com>   (Add as Preferred Sender)   

   This coins will be delisted at 10/05/2017

    BLCN BlockCoin - dead coin
    DOT Dotcoin - coin becomes swap, read official news at https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/News
    HBN Hobonickels - broken, mining impossible (last try at 10/30/2017 on latest sources v2.0.1.0-g-V2.0)
    UNIFY UNIFY - PoW phase ended, mining not available

    Please do the withdrawal request if you have any of these coins

We are dropping POW anyway - but I took offense to "broken"

The reason they may consider them broken is because I turned off flash miming. So they can't just send 100% hash power can expect to get all the blocks.  Anyway looking at the explorer I still see about 15-20% of blocks coming from PoW. So it still work fine, especially for solo!!

BTW. Since the block chain is much slower now, PoW will exist for about 1 more year. So plenty of time to put a GAW miner or 2 on the network and just let em go.

I completely agree here.  I've been involved in Alts since 2013, and HBN is the only coin from back then that I still mess with (besides LTC, but that doesn't count).  I always wanted a good POS coin, and HBN still seems like the survivor.  Just look at the run up of price in BTC, and HBN still holds its value. 

As long as:
1) the developer is somewhat active, and responsive
2) there is some community
3) the network syncs, and there are peers
4) the wallet works, and stakes
5) there is an exchange with HBN

Then I'm in.  Seems like a good bet.  It's a very small part of my port. but it's worth my time to maintain.

IMHO the only thing that keeps some people away is the memory usage. I have plans and a road map to address this. Not an easy fix, and won't happen overnight. But it is in my sights for sure.

Also that last month or 2 has been totally dominated by real work. Huge projects going on and all extra time has been spent on that. It is starting to come to a close, so I should be able to get back into more wallet development here soon enough.

But things have been looking pretty good from the network and wallet perspective. So I've been watching that to see how things will go.

[Rumhurius]

Yeah feels a lot better now.
Ty

[mintymark]

So I'm trying to run Hobonickels 2.0.1.0 on my 32 Bit Ubuntu 16.04.3 with the Gbome desktop. I am running kernel 4.4.0-96-generic.

I have tried several approaches with no success, so in the end I thought I would document the most promising here with the problems.

Essentially I have followed the instructions in the documentation.

Building the daemon - 1 problem:

cd src/
make -f makefile.unix

rpcrawtransaction.cpp:212:77:   required from here
/usr/include/boost/variant/get.hpp:178:5: error: invalid application of ‘sizeof’ to incomplete type ‘boost::STATIC_ASSERTION_FAILURE<false>’
     BOOST_STATIC_ASSERT_MSG(

I made this change to fix that:
rpcrawtransaction.cpp:212

// const CScriptID& hash = boost::get<const CScriptID&>(address);
                const CScriptID& hash = boost::get<CScriptID>(address);


Then

make -f makefile.unix

ls -l hobonickelsd
-rwxrwxr-x  1 mark mark 60953960 Nov  1 10:49 hobonickelsd

When run it comes up with a database corruption error but I'll worry about that later.


Now to make the qt version. I've assumed that qt5 is what should be used but some of the errormessages imply it has not been well converted from qt4


Running qmake, Its not clear to me which qt version I should be using, Some of the error messages imply it should be 5 but the dependencies list implies 5 so I went with that. The fact that the readme-qt.rst states to install qt5-default is the decider.

   apt-get install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools qttools5-dev-tools \
        build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \
        libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \
        libssl-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev

0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 10 not to upgrade.


which qmake
/usr/bin/qmake

ls -l /usr/bin/qmake
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec  9  2015 /usr/bin/qmake -> qtchooser
which qtchooser
/usr/bin/qtchooser
qmake
Project MESSAGE: Building with UPNP support
Project MESSAGE: Building with DBUS (Freedesktop notifications) support
Project MESSAGE: Building with LevelDB
Warning: ignoring <defaultcodec> element
Warning: ignoring <defaultcodec> element
Warning: ignoring <defaultcodec> element
makecd /home/mark/src/HoboNickels-2.0.1.0/src/leveldb && CC=gcc CXX=g++ make OPT="-pipe -fstack-protector-all --param ssp-buffer-size=1 -O2" libleveldb.a libmemenv.a
make[1]: Entering directory '/home/mark/src/HoboNickels-2.0.1.0/src/leveldb'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target 'libleveldb.a'. Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/mark/src/HoboNickels-2.0.1.0/src/leveldb'
Makefile:723: recipe for target '/home/mark/src/HoboNickels-2.0.1.0/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a' failed
make: *** [/home/mark/src/HoboNickels-2.0.1.0/src/leveldb/libleveldb.a] Error 2

find . -name libleveldb.a
./src/leveldb/out-static/libleveldb.a

Hmm,
Well, copy that file up and see what happens::
cp ./src/leveldb/out-static/libleveldb.a ./src/leveldb/libleveldb.a
Didnt help. removed the copy.

So thats where I am at the moment.

Anyone any advice ?

[Tranz]

Looks like an error in the qmake file. I see if I can get it corrected here soon.

In the mean time, since you already compiled the headless version you have the leveldb library in place.  So you should be able to comment out that line in the qmake. Then once it creates your Makefile you should be able to just do a make.

[Tranz]

ahh yep, i can make it as sum of 3 values, yet seems only hbn needs that dance

I'll check at some point and figure out why getbalance doesn't show staking.  Fairly sure it is the same as other staking coins, but I will take your word for it, that it is different.

So I did look at a few other wallets. All of them use getblance the same way. When a coin is actively staking it is not part of wallet balance.  Which does make sense, as during this time, it is not spendable, until it is fully confirmed or orphaned.

I don't know how you handle this with other coins, but I would be glad to have a look and make adjustments if it is appropriate to do so.

[mintymark]

Yes, that worked, thank you. ! Its re-downloading the wallet, but that happens sometime!

[Tranz]

Yes, that worked, thank you. ! Its re-downloading the wallet, but that happens sometime!

The Chain is available on hobonickels.info if you want to save time. It will take you up to about 3 or 4 weeks ago.

[str4w]

So, can anyone here explain to me how much stake can i expect now. Before it was 2% every 10 days? Now it seems like i get like 0,2% every 2 months. I also have alot of blocks with age >46 days now. Basically every block less than 1000 wont stake. Wallet is online around 130h a week so there is just more than a day downtime on average a week.

[versprichnix]

So, can anyone here explain to me how much stake can i expect now. Before it was 2% every 10 days? Now it seems like i get like 0,2% every 2 months. I also have alot of blocks with age >46 days now. Basically every block less than 1000 wont stake. Wallet is online around 130h a week so there is just more than a day downtime on average a week.

I use stake blocks of size between 12k and 24k. My splitthreshold is set to 24k.

I wonder what functionality the combinethreshold variable has. In your case the wallet should recognise this and combine 2 blocks automagically.

[str4w]

I have no idea what you are saying because splitthreshold 24k or whatever I type in console gives the same value back:


Code:

splitthreshold 15000


22:36:01

{
"amount" : 2500.00000000
}


22:36:25

splitthreshold 240000


22:36:25

{
"amount" : 2500.00000000
}

And I cant find any proper documentation in the wiki what this does exactly. Maybe anyone want to link me or explain to me how this works.

[vancefox]

I have no idea what you are saying because splitthreshold 24k or whatever I type in console gives the same value back:


Code:

splitthreshold 15000


22:36:01

{
"amount" : 2500.00000000
}


22:36:25

splitthreshold 240000


22:36:25

{
"amount" : 2500.00000000
}

And I cant find any proper documentation in the wiki what this does exactly. Maybe anyone want to link me or explain to me how this works.

I'm used to seeing the threshold of a point where if you can create 2x blocks of the value entered then it would split, else stay as one block... it appears that what actually happens is when it reaches ≥2500 hbn then it will split into two "equal"ish blocks.

[Zels]

With a wallet holding 1.5M hbn you have this value as max for combine & split
combinethreshold 7000
{
"amount" : 6127.10000000
}
splitthreshold 7000
{
"amount" : 3063.55000000
}


The #1 have 2.75M, nearly 2x mine, soo his max should be around 12k for combine & 6k for split

Only way to have higher value is 1) modify and compile yourself the wallet or combine your block manually and no other way to have a splitthreshold of 24k 

[Zels]

HBN is good only if you think yourself it's good, no one can tell you coin x is better than Y 

For me it's good, Tranz is still active and can only improve the wallet, this coin is old and still active.

Price is still low, good to get more hbn, interest is around 30%/year, better than any bank, If I was selling only pos I get daily I would make 10-15€ everyday, not bad to just let a wallet running in the background 

[Bannedseller]

HBN is good only if you think yourself it's good, no one can tell you coin x is better than Y  

For me it's good, Tranz is still active and can only improve the wallet, this coin is old and still active.

Price is still low, good to get more hbn, interest is around 30%/year, better than any bank, If I was selling only pos I get daily I would make 10-15€ everyday, not bad to just let a wallet running in the background  

I was unaware that the staking is 30%/year 
what do you mean  I would make 10-15€ everyday? if you have how many hbn?

[Zels]

how do you know who is #1 in total wallet amount ? )

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/hbn/#!rich

I was unaware that the staking is 30%/year  
what do you mean  I would make 10-15€ everyday? if you have how many hbn?

It was 100%, but % decreased with lasts updates, but still better than any bank that will give 0.1 - 0.5% interest  
10 - 15€ is with 1.5M HBN but it will take time or lot of money, I have hbn since long time already ^^

[Bannedseller]

Is there any plan to list HBN to more exchanges?

[vancefox]

Is there any plan to list HBN to more exchanges?

Need volume to be able to shift orders to other exchanges.

[panpine]

How do you build volume? More buying and trading? Seems like a chicken and egg problem.

-Conscripted

Buy or sell that how it works.
In my opinion volume is ok . It is possible to sell buy substantial volume  these days

[mentalmourn]

awesome project awesome team, hope for awesome party