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September 11, 2016, 05:12:40 PM
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Anyone looking to buy like 400k HBN?

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September 11, 2016, 05:24:39 PM
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Anyone looking to buy like 400k HBN?

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September 11, 2016, 05:45:08 PM
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Anyone looking to buy like 400k HBN?

My offer is this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367688.0

(80 Sat for one HBN at this time)

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September 11, 2016, 07:00:26 PM
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Nevermind. Had not looked at the price in some time, didn't realize it was this low. Not even worth getting rid of. Now just an experiment in how long I can run it without blowing my cpu up.
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September 11, 2016, 07:38:17 PM
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Nevermind. Had not looked at the price in some time, didn't realize it was this low. Not even worth getting rid of. Now just an experiment in how long I can run it without blowing my cpu up.

Nice move. My offer is not for you. I didn't realize that it is you, sandpaper. For you I have a special offer.

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September 11, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
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Nevermind. Had not looked at the price in some time, didn't realize it was this low. Not even worth getting rid of. Now just an experiment in how long I can run it without blowing my cpu up.

if you wanna have low cpu usage, you have to manually  make blocks of 5000-6000 hbn
in automatic to much dust and to many blocks  what eat the cpu and for less staking reward

i do a few blocks everyday after stake, otherwise to boring to do to much blocks in 1 time

i notice in explorer there are some people doing 10000 but it s to big you reach the max 250pos  and so you losing hbn's

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September 12, 2016, 04:02:22 PM
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Anyone having sync issues? My wallet crapped out on me yesterday with Assertion Fail & would not load. So I deleted all but my wallet.dat files & used the bootstrap from 4/16 & now the wallet is syncing very slow, I mean slow & will get stuck on a time value.


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September 13, 2016, 03:19:43 PM
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Any interest in launching HBN 2.0?
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September 13, 2016, 03:33:31 PM
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Anyone having sync issues? My wallet crapped out on me yesterday with Assertion Fail & would not load. So I deleted all but my wallet.dat files & used the bootstrap from 4/16 & now the wallet is syncing very slow, I mean slow & will get stuck on a time value.


If you just like to wait forever,  Tongue

Otherwise use my HBN Snapshot from
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September 13, 2016, 04:54:02 PM
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Any interest in launching HBN 2.0?

All that needs to be done is the block chain bloat... 2GB is just too much.

This space not for rent...
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September 13, 2016, 08:29:50 PM
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Any interest in launching HBN 2.0?

All that needs to be done is the block chain bloat... 2GB is just too much.

Actually,
Couple of things to be looked at , if a new chain is done.

1.  Drop PoW or continue it , also will the Checkpoint Server be dropped or continued?
2.  BlockSpeed, the coin will be bloated again in 2 years , if the block speed is left at 30 seconds, 1 or 1½ minutes sync very fast.
3.  If the Blockspeed is changed then the max reward of 250HBN per block needs to be increased also , prefer 2500HBN max reward per block  Wink

* Whoever is in charge of the swap needs to verify with Cryptopia , that the swap will not lose the HBN Market there.*
*HBN community may have to repay to have HBN added after any swap, so that should be worked out and understood first.*

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September 14, 2016, 03:45:59 AM
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Any interest in launching HBN 2.0?

do we have a dev that can do it ?

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September 14, 2016, 06:17:20 AM
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Couple of things to be looked at , if a new chain is done.

1.  Drop PoW or continue it , also will the Checkpoint Server be dropped or continued?
2.  BlockSpeed, the coin will be bloated again in 2 years , if the block speed is left at 30 seconds, 1 or 1½ minutes sync very fast.
3.  If the Blockspeed is changed then the max reward of 250HBN per block needs to be increased also , prefer 2500HBN max reward per block  Wink

* Whoever is in charge of the swap needs to verify with Cryptopia , that the swap will not lose the HBN Market there.*
*HBN community may have to repay to have HBN added after any swap, so that should be worked out and understood first.*

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A snapshot of the current chain would also need to be taken, like Clams did it.

If Tranz does not come back, we need to look out for a new developper.
To reward a new dev, the easiest way would be for the new dev to add a premine-bounty for himself to the new chain, besides the snapshot of the current chain.
That way we wouldn't need any donations or seek for a voluntary developer.

We just would have to agree on the number of coins that he or she would premine for himself.
I would just suggest 5% of the total coin supply for a new dev. Can anybody in this community post here if they agree with this or not?
If we have a big majority of our community who do agree, we could start to reach out to devs of other coins.

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September 14, 2016, 07:25:42 AM
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If Tranz does not come back, we need to look out for a new developper.
To reward a new dev, the easiest way would be for the new dev to add a premine-bounty for himself to the new chain, besides the snapshot of the current chain.
That way we wouldn't need any donations or seek for a voluntary developer.

We just would have to agree on the number of coins that he or she would premine for himself.
I would just suggest 5% of the total coin supply for a new dev. Can anybody in this community post here if they agree with this or not?
If we have a big majority of our community who do agree, we could start to reach out to devs of other coins.


For me, a new dev would be a relatively unknown quantity and HBN wouldn't be the same. I have sent Tranz a private message asking what his intentions with HBN are. So far, he hasn't answered.

We are coming back to the same ground 'others' have brought up. Incentive. I assume that Tranz would have amassed a reasonable amount of HBN, particularly at the beginning. Whether he has already cashed that amount in is another question. Giving a new dev (or Tranz) 5% of the coin supply is something that I would feel very uneasy with. 5% is 1,500,000 HBN. Who is to say that the new dev (or Tranz) wouldn't dump that amount and really do the coin in?

I would prefer the new dev (or Tranz) to have enough faith in the coin to have bought into the coin. That would give him/her (or Tranz) enough incentive to be committed. And by ....., HBN is cheap enough at the moment with only a 30 million coin supply.

The Dev's role is important, but so too is marketing and spreading the word. Some amongst us might be quite skilled at that, and just waiting for the right moment to apply themselves. Do we 'incentivise' them? I would say no to both dev and marketing 'incentivisation', especially considering the stage the coin is at now.

Tranz, it's about time we heard from you (if we haven't already).
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September 14, 2016, 07:51:22 AM
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At $25.000 market cap, 5% would be only $1250. And there is no buy support to absorb even that, so the new dev couldn't just dump the coins. A new dev would be automatically committed to bet on the market to recover from where we are now.

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September 14, 2016, 01:02:43 PM
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I personally would like to see HBN forked as a NXT clone like BURST.

That way we can issue assets against HBN and have more uses for the coin other than mining and dumping on cryptopia.
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September 14, 2016, 02:23:24 PM
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I personally would like to see HBN forked as a NXT clone like BURST.

That way we can issue assets against HBN and have more uses for the coin other than mining and dumping on cryptopia.

I think Hobonickels was never intended to be one of those coins that are in the forefront of Cryptocurrency-technology. It's a coin that serves more the collector-type of investor who likes to own something that has a cute, friendly brand and a history. With the fair launch, the long PoW-period and the Stake-for-charity option, the coin is ideal for that.
Those who invest in assets would be better off to sell their Hobonickels and buy Nxt/Ardor or Peercoin (they are working on Peerassets).

The original innovation of Proof-of-stake came when Sunny King launched Peercoin. So if it was purely about technology, all owners of Novacoin, Blackcoin, Hobonickels, Bottlecaps, Orbitcoin, Yacoin, Diamonds, Bitbars etc. etc. would sell their coins for Peercoin.

By the way, Peercoin is undervalued right now, I think it will go up in value quite a bit soon.

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September 14, 2016, 08:04:09 PM
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At $25.000 market cap, 5% would be only $1250. And there is no buy support to absorb even that, so the new dev couldn't just dump the coins. A new dev would be automatically committed to bet on the market to recover from where we are now.

With all due respect, I disagree.

1)  I beleive any dev interested in HoboNickels should buy into the coin first to show commitment to an already well-developed coin. As you have pointed out, it is cheap enough to buy at this moment in time;
2)  To give the new dev (or Tranz) 5% of the market cap i.e. 1,500,000 HBN would give the dev a massive power to mint an obscene amount;
3)  To stake and mint 1,500,000 coins in a large number of blocks would raise the difficulty in favour of the dev and push the rest of us out;
4)  The minting interest on 1,500,000 HBN unloaded every 10 days would depress the market if 'dumped' on a continual basis;
5)  The power given to one hand to potentially be able to dump 1,500,000 HBN in a short period of time is something that I don't want hanging over my head - once bitten twice shy. Someone dumped a large amount of HBN in the last few months for HoboNickels to be where it is now;
5)  We all already contribute to HoboNickels whether it be through our contributions to this column, or maintaining the network by staking with our computers - we need to recognise that valuable input. We have a strong community that any dev worth his salt should be happy to have behind him in support.

As far as increasing the 250 HBN threshold, I disagree with that too. To increase it tenfold, as has been suggested, could compromise one of HoboNickel's claims to fame - a low coin supply which aids value (supply and demand). In my opinion Tranz has steered HoboNickels in the right direction. I don't think we need to change anything too much. I believe there is good cause to believe that the price of HoboNickels will increase soon enough given a modicum of care and attention.
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September 14, 2016, 08:09:28 PM
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Anyone having sync issues? My wallet crapped out on me yesterday with Assertion Fail & would not load. So I deleted all but my wallet.dat files & used the bootstrap from 4/16 & now the wallet is syncing very slow, I mean slow & will get stuck on a time value.


If you just like to wait forever,  Tongue

Otherwise use my HBN Snapshot from
8-30-2016 , it will be faster.  Smiley

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It finally synced today but when I go to add my backup wallets it fails saying the naming is not correct. I can get my wallet.dat to work but all of my other wallet.dat files I have backed up will not load.

Can you help me load my back up wallets please.

I used this guide once before with luck, but now the wallet tells me my other wallet.dat files are corrupted.
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/9590-hbn-trouble-shooting-guide-wallet-corruption/

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September 15, 2016, 01:18:37 AM
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At $25.000 market cap, 5% would be only $1250. And there is no buy support to absorb even that, so the new dev couldn't just dump the coins. A new dev would be automatically committed to bet on the market to recover from where we are now.

With all due respect, I disagree.

1)  I beleive any dev interested in HoboNickels should buy into the coin first to show commitment to an already well-developed coin. As you have pointed out, it is cheap enough to buy at this moment in time;
2)  To give the new dev (or Tranz) 5% of the market cap i.e. 1,500,000 HBN would give the dev a massive power to mint an obscene amount;
3)  To stake and mint 1,500,000 coins in a large number of blocks would raise the difficulty in favour of the dev and push the rest of us out;
4)  The minting interest on 1,500,000 HBN unloaded every 10 days would depress the market if 'dumped' on a continual basis;
5)  The power given to one hand to potentially be able to dump 1,500,000 HBN in a short period of time is something that I don't want hanging over my head - once bitten twice shy. Someone dumped a large amount of HBN in the last few months for HoboNickels to be where it is now;
5)  We all already contribute to HoboNickels whether it be through our contributions to this column, or maintaining the network by staking with our computers - we need to recognise that valuable input. We have a strong community that any dev worth his salt should be happy to have behind him in support.

As far as increasing the 250 HBN threshold, I disagree with that too. To increase it tenfold, as has been suggested, could compromise one of HoboNickel's claims to fame - a low coin supply which aids value (supply and demand). In my opinion Tranz has steered HoboNickels in the right direction. I don't think we need to change anything too much. I believe there is good cause to believe that the price of HoboNickels will increase soon enough given a modicum of care and attention.

I agree with you. The coin's specifications are perfectly fine. If anything, increase the blocktime to 1-2 minutes and adjust the rewards to compensate.

The problem lies within the codebase and blockchain bloat. We honestly need a blockchain swap at this point. We need to swap to the latest hybrid codebase and go from there. We do not need to introduce a premine for dev work. The coin is cheap enough as it is.
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