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Author Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive  (Read 400491 times)
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May 29, 2017, 09:54:37 PM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

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GenStake is another PoS/PoW coin that runs much less CPU and memory than HBN.  2GiveCoin runs with very little resources but is much differently structured kind of PoS/PoW coin.  Hyperstake and Truckcoin are also lower in memory and CPU use but do not use PoW. (Truckcoin runs higher on CPU use) The GreenCoin daemon runs with very little CPU and memory use but is also PoS only.

However greencoin has problems of its own which i need to take care of when i get time. Its based on the old blackcoin. Likely going to be upgraded to the new blackcoin base when i have some time. The main issue with it is that peer discovery isnt working (may be due to faulty seed nodes) and the blockchain sync stalls at certain blocks

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Hi Ahmed, good to see you still around.  Hopefully I can keep you busy with a few pull requests in the next few months.. hehe.

HBN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0
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May 29, 2017, 10:50:10 PM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

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HYP does a pretty good job for what you're looking for memory and cpu as well as resolves the S4C issue. I also mention some general issues most crypto wallets have in the last few pages of the thread. Have a look: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.6360

Yes I know HYP well. Again look at # of blocks vs amt of memory used. The ratio is still close.

I authored S4C originally I know what it can and can't do.  I am just not sure what it should do yet..

That's great to know. Here is the post I was talking about. Not sure if it's exactly what your're looking for, but it might help (the last paragraph): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=678849.msg19160392#msg19160392

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May 29, 2017, 10:57:10 PM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?





For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

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May 29, 2017, 11:07:10 PM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?





For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

Right on, so are there any that are lower per block? Mint, nvc, black coin, ppc? Ect...

HBN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0
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May 29, 2017, 11:18:22 PM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?





For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

Right on, so are there any that are lower per block? Mint, nvc, black coin, ppc? Ect...

Not that I've seen...

I'm thinking the only way to get the memory usage down is to decrease the number of blocks... or use compression...  either way it's hard because the blockchain needs to be from #0 to current... I'm really thinking a new genesis block like compression where all current balances get fed into block #0...  call me crazy...

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May 29, 2017, 11:20:57 PM
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Halving the stake reward maybe? I know it's been mentioned before.

I figured it out.  Just typed in threshold limits on command line, super easy.

On another note the blockchain doesn't seem to be synchronizing.  I'm doing it over wifi, not sure if that's an issue.  Seems to be stuck at 3 years 310 days.  How long should it take?  AM I doing something wrong?

Try downloading and using a zipped blockchain. It won't be three years behind, it will probably be a few months behind instead.

http://108.61.216.160/cryptochainer.chains/chains/HoboNickels_blockchain.zip

After I download it, do I need to do anything specific with it?  Thanks!

Unzip it and put the contents of the unzipped folder in the HoboNickels folder inside appdata\Roaming, Appdata is a folder that's hidden by default in windows. To see it you have to go to appearance and personalisation in the windows settings,  select folder options, then select "show hidden files, folder or drives".

You can find your HoboNickels folder in appdata at

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Roaming\HoboNickels

where <your username> is your windows username.

Thank you Mike.  I'm really getting frustrated.  After downloading your link and inserting zip file into appdata/roaming it won't unzip...says zip file is invalid.  So right now I can't synchronize the blockchain via wallet and cant open downloaded zip file.  Grrrr.  Need help.  Thank you.

Do you have peers? use the peer connections from crytopia coin info page and in the debug window console type
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addnode IP add

Ok, that got it moving.  Thank you Tranz!!!
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May 29, 2017, 11:51:19 PM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?





For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

Right on, so are there any that are lower per block? Mint, nvc, black coin, ppc? Ect...


Is it really neccessary to keep all the blocks in the memory? What can be done about the lag after each block ? (fairglu observed when uploading chain on explorer , and I think same lagging in the wallet / might be the case of wallet with thousands of blocks..)
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May 30, 2017, 01:19:20 AM
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Hey, is there any way to find the effective interest rate right now?  I know it changes with difficulty, just looking for ball park estimate.
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May 30, 2017, 01:47:11 AM
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Hey, is there any way to find the effective interest rate right now?  I know it changes with difficulty, just looking for ball park estimate.

No way to make money on this coin anymore sadly...

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May 30, 2017, 03:27:52 AM
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Hey, is there any way to find the effective interest rate right now?  I know it changes with difficulty, just looking for ball park estimate.

Click the staking arrow or network -> Current POS info (may take a few clicks),  it will bring up a box with information. 

HBN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0
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Not that I've seen...

I'm thinking the only way to get the memory usage down is to decrease the number of blocks... or use compression...  either way it's hard because the blockchain needs to be from #0 to current... I'm really thinking a new genesis block like compression where all current balances get fed into block #0...  call me crazy...

I think you could be able to unload spent inputs, and only load in unspent. Also you could even only load in the last 100 days of unspent or something.  Would require more disk reads and more CPU usage, but could save memory. Anyway just a thought right now, till I can dig into it more.

HBN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0
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May 30, 2017, 03:50:35 AM
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Not that I've seen...

I'm thinking the only way to get the memory usage down is to decrease the number of blocks... or use compression...  either way it's hard because the blockchain needs to be from #0 to current... I'm really thinking a new genesis block like compression where all current balances get fed into block #0...  call me crazy...

I think you could be able to unload spent inputs, and only load in unspent. Also you could even only load in the last 100 days of unspent or something.  Would require more disk reads and more CPU usage, but could save memory. Anyway just a thought right now, till I can dig into it more.

Right... the blockchain .dat will still be required to be full... memory can be used for -1000 blocks but would have to be tied to the network total block count.  That would fix all the memory issues... but you'd need something more than a R-Pi though I'd think to handle any read calls on the blockchain file such as a sync to another wallet.

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May 30, 2017, 03:52:49 AM
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Hey, is there any way to find the effective interest rate right now?  I know it changes with difficulty, just looking for ball park estimate.

No way to make money on this coin anymore sadly...

While my "make money" attitude towards coins was the reason I jumped in to the pool in the first place... I've been sticking around just because I enjoy it as an escape from life's abyss...  so I will continue to stake into the night since I believe the future of banking is in this coding of both PoW and PoS.

That and I'm not net-negative...

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May 30, 2017, 04:12:01 AM
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Hey, is there any way to find the effective interest rate right now?  I know it changes with difficulty, just looking for ball park estimate.

No way to make money on this coin anymore sadly...

While my "make money" attitude towards coins was the reason I jumped in to the pool in the first place... I've been sticking around just because I enjoy it as an escape from life's abyss...  so I will continue to stake into the night since I believe the future of banking is in this coding of both PoW and PoS.

That and I'm not net-negative...

Well said.   Likewise it gives me an out and the pos incentive keeps me in the game.
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May 30, 2017, 05:56:21 AM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?



Hi to all fellow hobos!
Tranz, may be you should contact Balthazar, the author of one of the oldest Pos coins - NVC. He is quite a wise man, and could be helpful i think.
Concerning NVC blocks and memory usage - currently it has 341402 blocks and uses only 181.8 Mb memory, at 0.5% CPU.

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May 30, 2017, 07:34:28 AM
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Hi guys , please find newest  blockchain snapshot athttps://mega.nz/#F!fVASmAKS!XKpK8_xTH5FbK8Ce-LvuPw
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May 30, 2017, 08:14:55 AM
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Current requests:

Change S4C to 100% - I think I will likely do 75 or 90% for the first change. Then if that goes well change to 100%.  But I can bump it, yes.
Lower CPU  - This will be one of the first one. Multiple changes for this.
Lower Memory - Most important but also most difficult. Will take much time, but will begin to investigate this and see what can be done.   Need help from the crowd on this one. What POS coins are out there that have the least memory?  New coins don't count. Have to have few years under their belt.

What else?





For info above... HYP is at 1028083 blocks with 462MB memory usage.  HBN is at 5242362 blocks with 2.2GB...  so the memory usage is about equal per block...

Right on, so are there any that are lower per block? Mint, nvc, black coin, ppc? Ect...

For me a natural way is to make the block creation frequency variable, between 1 minute an 10 minutes, for example. The question is, what could this frequency depend on?
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May 30, 2017, 08:23:34 AM
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The block generation frequency could depend on the mempool size. Or, if spam is taken into account, it could depend on the accumulated fees in the mempool. (block generation frequency should depend on as little metrics as possible)
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May 30, 2017, 08:43:40 AM
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If my suggestion is realized properly, it should lead to faster transfer times on high usage spikes, that is an opposite behaviour as the bitcoin is doing (and perhaps all other altcoins at this time).

It also could prevent an attack through filling up the mempool, this would become expensive. To make this work, the time interval between blocks should depend on the accumulated fees in the mempool.
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May 30, 2017, 09:10:27 AM
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In a later step the usage information could be used to determine the block size automatically. The mean could be around 3 minute block interval, and if usage spikes drives block interval to 1 minute over a longer time, block size could be enlarged. Or if low usage drives the block interval to 10 minutes for a longer time, block size could be reduced.

(I cannot say if this is technically solvable. But if the suggestions follow sustainable economic rules, they should be consistant and fit together)
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