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Author Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive  (Read 410377 times)
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June 23, 2017, 09:32:19 PM
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Hello Administration/Coin Dev,

I am Valdemar from CryptoDAO Limited. We are Providing Crypto Exchange,Multiwebwallet and Crypto Loan Services.
Currently we are very much active in Crypto market. There are already 350+ Crypto Pair are active on our Trade platform, including many Eth/Omni/Waves/Counterparty/Nxt based Token against BTC,LTC,USD
,CNY,RUB.
We are providing Two Trade platform:
1.Standard Trade Platform: https://cryptodao.com/site/index/LTC/BTC
2.MT4 Based Trade Platform: https://cryptodao.com/trade2/index?symbol=huobibtccny

If you are interested ,then we can add your Coin/Asset/Token on our trade platform. Our Platform also connected with Coinmarketcap and Coinhills, so we can
help you to get some volume on market.

We have below Package for Listing any Coin/Asset/Token:

Listing type:

*Diamond - 0.1 btc - 3-7 business days
*Exclusive - 0.25 btc - 2-3 business days
*Urgent - 0.5 btc - 1-2 business days + mail alert to all users

Payment method: Only in Bitcoin: 1A7QiA6iRwfkYSivMxrYPQDWBXypGcgC57

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CryptoDAO Limited Registered in United Kingdom. Reg no:10739468
D&B D-U-N-S® Number: 222925156

Thank you

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E-mail: admin@cryptodao.com

So what do we think about this exchange? I know exactly zero about it.  Any have a DD on it?  Do we think HBN could get enough volume to support 2 exchanges. And do we think this is the one to do it?


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June 23, 2017, 09:55:23 PM
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if it was registered anywhere except UK i'd maybe start to think lol..
too many new exchanges registered lately,
no purpose except getting a piece of big pie
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June 24, 2017, 12:18:38 AM
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Uhm   https://blockchain.info/address/1A7QiA6iRwfkYSivMxrYPQDWBXypGcgC57

This kind of project is obviously going to proliferate soon. I'd wait til the fee drops to under 100 sats for a listing. Or else start your own exchange with hbn as the base currency.

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hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...
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June 24, 2017, 09:16:47 AM
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edit to add
hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...

I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week
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June 24, 2017, 12:58:52 PM
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hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...

I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week

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hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...

I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week

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I hear about captchas all the time, I don't believe they are resistant against bots and sockpuppets.
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June 24, 2017, 08:48:11 PM
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wallet updated to 1.5.2 and now resync from a bootstrap file
it is a long way Smiley

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June 25, 2017, 06:19:24 AM
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Hello! Does the HBN wallet have a "splitthreshold" function? If so, did I set the parameters correctly in the HoboNickels.conf file:

splitthreshold=4000
combinethreshold=1000

 My blocks continue to split into small blocks.

Or maybe it must be "setsplitthreshold", like on a console command?
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June 25, 2017, 06:38:47 AM
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08:35:54: combinethreshold 5000
08:35:58 { "amount" : 4478.07000000 }
08:36:12: splitthreshold 5000
08:36:14: { "amount" : 2239.29000000 }

Try in console, amount depend on how much coin you have in total, more coin, higher value can be used Smiley

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June 25, 2017, 06:40:18 AM
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Hello! Does the HBN wallet have a "splitthreshold" function? If so, did I set the parameters correctly in the HoboNickels.conf file:

splitthreshold=4000
combinethreshold=1000

 My blocks continue to split into small blocks.

Or maybe it must be "setsplitthreshold", like on a console command?

commands are correct, but values work only within limits depending on your wallet balance.

https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/blob/master/src/main.h#L59

https://github.com/Tranz5/HoboNickels/blob/master/src/rpcwallet.cpp#L1801
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June 25, 2017, 07:04:05 AM
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Thank you all for your answers!
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June 25, 2017, 02:52:43 PM
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I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week

It is a problem of society that in cities, in order to survive, a person needs something as unnatural as 'money'.

Anyway your question is probably the biggest one in economics, even before crypto.

But crypto may provide more sensible solutions than blanket rules like '1 coin per 1 person per week'.
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June 25, 2017, 03:18:42 PM
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wallet updated to 1.5.2 and now resync from a bootstrap file
it is a long way Smiley

Hey sorry about that.  The pulls into my repo are not always 100%. I am going to be adding A LOT of stuff to it over the next few months. Some of it may not work right away. So please keep that mind.  Please be sure to create good copies for both the wallet and other vital file before upgrading any of the executable.

After full regression testing on test and main net I will pull into the main repo.

FYI I plan to implement headers soon into the index so we can run non-staking, lite weight Electrum and Android type wallets.  So after that is done, another re-index will be needed. That's point I planned to move to main repo. And then work on other things like hard forks.

That said I do appreciate the beta testing, please let me know if you have issues.


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June 25, 2017, 03:19:09 PM
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But crypto may provide more sensible solutions than blanket rules like '1 coin per 1 person per week'.

I know about this "sensible" solutions, XRP and other coins are representatives of them. My world is VERY easy and "unsensible", I'm serious. The same weekly amount to every individual all over the world. For the first time coins with a value of two dollars a day are enought.
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June 25, 2017, 07:03:13 PM
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But crypto may provide more sensible solutions than blanket rules like '1 coin per 1 person per week'.

I know about this "sensible" solutions, XRP and other coins are representatives of them. My world is VERY easy and "unsensible", I'm serious. The same weekly amount to every individual all over the world. For the first time coins with a value of two dollars a day are enought.

1) A currency first has to "produce" something, before it can be distributed as a new store of value, otherwise you are trying to redistribute somebody else's 'wealth', and will be in a weak defensive position. The best beginning of this step, to my knowledge, would be something like a crypto that requires human interaction. So called "capcha" coins are a poor misguided sidestep in that direction. It would be an easy thing to do though. The only coin that has made serious progress in that area, as far as I know, is huntercoin.

2) xrp etc are not currencies that focus on distribution models, aside from airdrops etc. xrp is a corporate currency, not more not less. It has nothing whatsoever to do with any distribution balance.

3) Giving the exact same amount to every individual makes no sense either. Aside from the distribution side there is also services/supply. Should an individual who needs expensive medicine have to do without everything except that medicine, while another person gets easy money to spend all their time stoned? Nothing wrong with getting stoned if that's what a person wants, but it should not be subsidized the same way as survival.

4) the basic point you make is accurate. If a currency could distribute $2 in useable currency to every person, it would improve things more than it would worsen them, for most people. The main bottleneck has to do with things like education. you could look at coins like humaniq, that claim to have that ambition. Even then there are lots of small issues. If you distribute by thumbprint to the uneducated then there will be a market for severed thumbs in some areas.

5) Another consideration is the carrying capacity of the planet. Crypto does have the potential to quickly extend lifespans and similar things, but even today we still have policymakers who make large decisions based on demographic considerations, if you want to call it that, or 'population control'. Until there is more effort to extend available real estate to outer space there will be many people who will sabotage efforts to create a level playing field for less wealthy places.
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June 25, 2017, 07:36:16 PM
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Tranz is Back at the great bubble...hahaha Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
hurry up Tranz...You don't have much time to dump Your bag. Cheesy
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June 25, 2017, 08:23:56 PM
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Tranz is Back at the great bubble...hahaha Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
hurry up Tranz...You don't have much time to dump Your bag. Cheesy

Who do you think caused the great bubble! I'm still in accumulation mode. Got any to sell?  Grin

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June 25, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
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4) the basic point you make is accurate. If a currency could distribute $2 in useable currency to every person, it would improve things more than it would worsen them, for most people. The main bottleneck has to do with things like education. you could look at coins like humaniq, that claim to have that ambition. Even then there are lots of small issues. If you distribute by thumbprint to the uneducated then there will be a market for severed thumbs in some areas.



Isn't this just like changing the one dollar bill to a million dollar bill. So everyone can be millionaires?  I'm pretty sure in your situation, if you gave $2 to every person, no matter if it is crypto, gold, or dollars, inflation would simply make everything in the world $2 more expensive, putting everyone back at the same spot they were before you gave them it.

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Isn't this just like changing the one dollar bill to a million dollar bill. So everyone can be millionaires?  I'm pretty sure in your situation, if you gave $2 to every person, no matter if it is crypto, gold, or dollars, inflation would simply make everything in the world $2 more expensive, putting everyone back at the same spot they were before you gave them it.

There are a few issues involved. Talking strictly about distribution of the bottom rung of wealth... there are tens of thousands of children in poor countries that die for lack of $1. If you gave each of them $1 per day it would prevent many of those deaths, if there were also stores where they could buy what $1 buys.

But if you give each of those kids or their families $100 a day then they are going to buy not only food and electrolytes but also radios, watches, phones etc. Eventually they will look for ways to make $300 a day, so they can buy better stuff. So there will be space for entrepreneurs etc, that's how an economy can start.

One important side issue is that when a person, including a policy maker, is deciding on a course of action, he or she often uses the issues of the day to rationalize some more primitive motive. So you have a lot of people with power who, at a deep level, are thinking "Dang there are a lot of those brown/black/yellow people, have to reduce their numbers"... but you filter that thought through the days politics and they end up saying "the feasibility of economic administration of subsistence... etc etc" so that in effect they feel sorry about so many people dying of poverty, and they wish they could do more, but they have a dinner date and have to get dressed. That works, as long as you're not the hungry one.

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June 26, 2017, 03:44:24 AM
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As for exchanges, soon there will be a lot of new ones like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917456.0 and pay to play will be finished unless they provide dancing girls and pretzals.
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