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June 16, 2017, 08:37:07 AM |
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I just noticed that freebitco.in does offer a way to increase your free BTC rewards by up to a higher amount if the user play their multiply BTC dice or buy the site lottery tickets, I do try to roll quite a number of rolls but I doesn't see my free BTC payout amount increasing, is there a certain amount we must wager before the rewards get increase in the free roll?
i believe there are 2 threshholds you need to surpass in order to increase the bonus. if you pass the first, you get half the bonus (see ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FwlufO%2Fb1da593a65.png&t=665&c=Yz0OdwnayRatjQ) ) then there is another one, if you pass that, you get the full bonus. no steps in between. I do not know, how much you have to wager / how many tickets you have to buy. Maybe someone could test this? I am still not able to understand do you mean that what amount of bonus is their we should play according to it multiply btc or buy lottery tickets or what should i do, as i have played double the bonus amount mentioned but my bonus btc did not changed I am also waiting for more information from Admin or site customer service person to explain about this because its not clear on site how is this going to work hope this will do this in near future its very good and interesting if they are going to improve this claim
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June 16, 2017, 04:52:04 PM |
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New progress report showing above the bonus, although not changing for me even after wagering. http://imgur.com/a/QzItu
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June 16, 2017, 05:27:18 PM |
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Yes, Now there are showing the progress and it's also changing while I am playing multiply game. That's so interesting. But I can't understand what will happened next. Because he(wetsuit) is changing this system of bonus every short time. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiFPAoh6.jpg&t=665&c=TItu0Hgo7qPTXw)
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June 16, 2017, 06:36:53 PM |
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.
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June 16, 2017, 07:31:42 PM |
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.
So the site mentioned that buying lottery tickets also helps to achieve a higher bonus, but how does the number of lottery tickets bought factor into the percentage, as the percentage also represents the wagered amount if I am not mistaken.
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June 16, 2017, 07:34:43 PM |
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.
So the site mentioned that buying lottery tickets also helps to achieve a higher bonus, but how does the number of lottery tickets bought factor into the percentage, as the percentage also represents the wagered amount if I am not mistaken. Its all added up to make up for the requirements. I can't reveal the exact way it is calculated though to prevent people from gaming the system.
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June 16, 2017, 08:10:29 PM |
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.
So the site mentioned that buying lottery tickets also helps to achieve a higher bonus, but how does the number of lottery tickets bought factor into the percentage, as the percentage also represents the wagered amount if I am not mistaken. Its all added up to make up for the requirements. I can't reveal the exact way it is calculated though to prevent people from gaming the system. Ok, also it doesn't seem right that with my 1000% FREE BTC bonus activated, I get more than I would for the second tier of 9886-9985. Once I do roll a number in the second tier, I am rewarded less for my luck, instead of more. Is there anything you can do about this? http://imgur.com/a/YAH2C
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June 16, 2017, 08:16:07 PM |
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The FREE BTC bonus was always like this because it is a % increase so it can only be given for the lowest prize. Even with a max FREE BTC bonus before, the 2nd prize was lower than the first. This new bonus is a fixed amount that is added to all tiers.
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June 17, 2017, 12:02:25 AM |
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The bonus now shows how close you are to achieving your next bonus increment. Please note that the bonuses are not fixed and bound to change until we make an official announcement about it. Right now the priority is to gauge how much bonus can be given and to who.
How long does the players will wait for an official announcements regarding the fixing of the bonuses? I've been hearing a lot of comments and concerns of the delays of the bonuses given an even rewards is inaccurate as promised by the site previews those nrw registered. Eventhough bonus increment is there, but I am not so confident it will really reach faster to higher amount of btc and it's just need to consume a long time of waiting.
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June 17, 2017, 12:10:36 AM |
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Sso you can't get the bonus from free money? Just from multiply btc or buying tickets? And is there any percentage that would show for each lottery tickets that convert to that bonus? I mean to make sure that we really need enough to get that. And is there any tier to get more than 1.5k sat? Saw everyonr just having the same tier there
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June 17, 2017, 10:19:22 AM |
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Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC 28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!
How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus? Or better, how much i have to wager for this?
Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!
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June 17, 2017, 01:30:24 PM |
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Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC 28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!
How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus? Or better, how much i have to wager for this?
Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!
The answer to your question is in the MULTIPLY BTC section on the site: Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager! I also want to thank for removing recaptcha because sometimes it would have taken me several times of trying to solve it before I had a chance to roll.
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June 17, 2017, 04:25:43 PM |
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Marlboroza is referring to the FREE BTC minimum bonus (faucet), and the requirements to increase that, not how to get lottery tickets. Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC 28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!
How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus? Or better, how much i have to wager for this?
Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!
The answer to your question is in the MULTIPLY BTC section on the site: Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager! I also want to thank for removing recaptcha because sometimes it would have taken me several times of trying to solve it before I had a chance to roll. Marlboroza, wetsuit has said that there will be an official announcement in the future which explains all that, he is still crunching the numbers on how much to give and to who right now. Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC 28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!
How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus? Or better, how much i have to wager for this?
Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!
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June 18, 2017, 01:06:51 AM Last edit: June 18, 2017, 02:02:37 AM by Food2 |
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***The following is my updated algorithm for determining the lottery winners*** Ok, so this uses your already provably fair method for determining rolls. ---------------------------------------------------- At the start of the round, have the server create a seed, and display that seed hashed to the public on the lottery page. At the end of the round, automatically post an excel spreadsheet to Dropbox (I believe they have an API) showing the acquired tickets for the round and who they belong to (like this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16FCMiXgVXI9unoFMm2qgCoK7gGA5BaZqth2BCoddT7k/edit?usp=sharing). Posting the file to Dropbox leaves an upload timestamp created by a server INDEPENDENT of freebitco.in, meaning the file cannot be tampered with or it would be evident in the timestamp. Then, take the next bitcoin block to be generated after the file was posted, and use its hash as a server seed. The nonce is the lottery round number, increasing by 0.1 for each iteration (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc...). Create a roll number using these three inputs. Define q by multiplying 10 to the power of the digit count of the total number of tickets and adding the difference between number of digits in the highest possible roll number, and the actual amount of digits in the roll number in zeros - This accounts for low rolls (q = 10 digitCount + (extraZerosAmount = totalPossibleDigits - actualDigitAmount)). Define t by multiplying the roll number by q (t = roll# x q). Define n by taking t and performing a modulo operation with the round's ticket count, and adding one (n = (t%tktcount) + 1). And there you have it, the winning ticket is the nth ticket acquired in the round. Users can verify the winners after the round by doing the roll formula and checking it against the spreadsheet posted on Dropbox, with the INDEPENDENT upload timestamp by Dropbox servers ensuring that the spreadsheet was not tampered with after the block was generated and roll formula completed. Let me know if you have any questions, or if I missed anything. Jake Edit: This may seem very complicated and jumbled and I apologise in advance, but in my honest opinion this covers every front possible in order to achieve the complete provably fairness of the lottery, and give all users confidence in doing so. If this seems complicated and you don't understand, ask me for an example and I will post one.
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June 18, 2017, 06:07:08 AM |
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Tried it out, got a very small amount of Bitcoin. Not sure why people are posting their addressed here.
It's still just a faucet. If you post your address you will be creditted .0005 (after 10 free rolls). Exactly. Thank you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Also you have a chance to win more than the normal amount of Bitcoins faucets usually give. As the ad revenue stabilizes, I will probably be able to increase the odds of users winning higher amounts. Bonus activated for everyone who posted. Wow! Is this legit? I will give a try. Here's mine. 3Nd9giqQpo8GtL5BuqZnyiYEWF9hxaWq7d Thanks a lot!
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June 18, 2017, 06:16:47 AM |
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***The following is my updated algorithm for determining the lottery winners***
Ok, so this uses your already provably fair method for determining rolls. ----------------------------------------------------
~snip~ Just forget about the provably fair method for lottery. wetsuit can make false server seed/server hash and other documents for choosing the lottery winner and he can post it publicly. But you have nothing to do here. He can manage everything and if you want to check you found it right. I'm not raising question about wetsuit honesty. There is only one way to prove the lottery system is not false. And that is if the lottery winner share their winning with proof here. People may also call it false. However recently someone share his lottery winning of first prize here. And you can found some more lottery winner if you check all the replies on wetsuit post's. I have found some lottery winner here and posted about them on this thread. Check here 1. So far I never see anyone posted the proofs on this forum and I don't know the winners. How can I ask them to post the proof? Do you provide the winners contact details for us to ask the proofs?
2. I will wait for your details to be posted on this thread to check. I'm interested in lottery winner choosing process not in the hi-low game. Because that game is fair and never said that it is not fair but the issue is high house edge.
3. I have mentioned in my earlier post that we can buy tickets with free money to try our luck.
I think you don't know about the thread of big wins of freebitco.in. There are a lot of user posted and posting their big win's with proof(screenshot and winning seeds). You are asking about the lottery system. It is properly depends on your luck. Recently (2 weeks ago) one Sr.member(tomos81) told about his lottery win on the thread. He got the 7th place. You can also find one more winner there. He got the third price a long time ago. A few days ago one legendary(BitcoinBarrel) member of this forum said that he also won the lottery in past. He got second place and the prize was 1.4 btc. He told about his win on micro earning thread. You can check it here(2nd price winner) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319540.msg19280603#msg19280603To check the big win's see here( You can found 3 200$ winner post on this thread also) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.0To check the other 2 user lottery winning post(7th and 3rd price winner) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.140I think there are a lot of silent lottery winner on this forum who doesn't know about these thread or not willing to share their wins. Freebitco.in is the legendary faucet of bitcoin world. So I don't think they do something wrong/false proof on their site. There is only one problem with the high house edge(5%) of their hi-lo game.
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June 18, 2017, 08:19:44 AM |
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Food2, but how does your algorithm prevent site owners from creating new accounts credited with millions of tickets?
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June 18, 2017, 08:46:12 AM |
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***The following is my updated algorithm for determining the lottery winners***
Ok, so this uses your already provably fair method for determining rolls. ----------------------------------------------------
~snip~ Just forget about the provably fair method for lottery. wetsuit can make false server seed/server hash and other documents for choosing the lottery winner and he can post it publicly. But you have nothing to do here. He can manage everything and if you want to check you found it right. I'm not raising question about wetsuit honesty. There is only one way to prove the lottery system is not false. And that is if the lottery winner share their winning with proof here. People may also call it false. However recently someone share his lottery winning of first prize here. And you can found some more lottery winner if you check all the replies on wetsuit post's. I have found some lottery winner here and posted about them on this thread. Check here 1. So far I never see anyone posted the proofs on this forum and I don't know the winners. How can I ask them to post the proof? Do you provide the winners contact details for us to ask the proofs?
2. I will wait for your details to be posted on this thread to check. I'm interested in lottery winner choosing process not in the hi-low game. Because that game is fair and never said that it is not fair but the issue is high house edge.
3. I have mentioned in my earlier post that we can buy tickets with free money to try our luck.
I think you don't know about the thread of big wins of freebitco.in. There are a lot of user posted and posting their big win's with proof(screenshot and winning seeds). You are asking about the lottery system. It is properly depends on your luck. Recently (2 weeks ago) one Sr.member(tomos81) told about his lottery win on the thread. He got the 7th place. You can also find one more winner there. He got the third price a long time ago. A few days ago one legendary(BitcoinBarrel) member of this forum said that he also won the lottery in past. He got second place and the prize was 1.4 btc. He told about his win on micro earning thread. You can check it here(2nd price winner) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=319540.msg19280603#msg19280603To check the big win's see here( You can found 3 200$ winner post on this thread also) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.0To check the other 2 user lottery winning post(7th and 3rd price winner) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1850855.140I think there are a lot of silent lottery winner on this forum who doesn't know about these thread or not willing to share their wins. Freebitco.in is the legendary faucet of bitcoin world. So I don't think they do something wrong/false proof on their site. There is only one problem with the high house edge(5%) of their hi-lo game.How can they prove if that address even no once? May be some of them already win this but no one ever hit the highest one. Do not know if that is real address or not but it seems that every week they always posted new address with huge amount there. Just wondering if they really have this provably fair system or not on their system. But if i can say if there is no winner better do not need to put any address there so we know only active person there can win some cash
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June 18, 2017, 09:58:17 AM |
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Marlboroza is referring to the FREE BTC minimum bonus (faucet), and the requirements to increase that, not how to get lottery tickets. Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00001501 BTC 28.83% achieved towards the next +0.00000079 BTC bonus!
How much tickets i have to buy to receive 1500 satoshi bonus? Or better, how much i have to wager for this?
Btw thanks for removing recaptcha, it makes things much easier!
The answer to your question is in the MULTIPLY BTC section on the site: Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager! I also want to thank for removing recaptcha because sometimes it would have taken me several times of trying to solve it before I had a chance to roll. ~ But you can increase your FREE BTC rewards with the reward points. My reply wasn't about how to get lottery tickets. Get 1 free lottery ticket and 4 reward points for every 0.00001500 BTC that you wager! For example redeeming your reward points(RP) you can increase your minimum free FREE BTC reward by 1000% in the next 24 hours after redemption paying 3,200 RP for that.
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June 18, 2017, 11:21:35 AM |
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Food2, but how does your algorithm prevent site owners from creating new accounts credited with millions of tickets?
With my algorithm, site owners cannot know the outcome of the roll, so it is still technically fair. HOWEVER, common sense can prevent the site owners from creating new accounts. If all of the sudden new users (will know they are new by high id number) are obtaining a crap ton of tickets in a matter of seconds (shown in order in the acquisition chart I linked), it's pretty obvious that site owners are rigging it. Other than that, imho it's impossible to know for sure whether not the site admins are crediting accounts with lottery tickets unless you are the site admin, lol.
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