Bitcoin Forum
August 17, 2019, 11:56:03 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 0.18.0 [Torrent] (New!)
 
   Home   Help Search Login Register More  
Pages: « 1 ... 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 [294] 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 ... 479 »
  Print  
Author Topic: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!!  (Read 314437 times)
solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 09:07:45 AM
 #5861

@Triple_S

The important factor you are missing is that there is a cost involved in running a botnet. That's why solosss is so upset that they came here to complain. By reducing the rewards we take away their profit margin. It's unfortunate that genuine users get caught up in it. The only way we can tell what is a bot is that they don't risk becoming unprofitable by gambling, they don't deposit, and they use every means possible to max out what they can get from the faucet.


I suspect you did not even read my post, did not understand it or did not want it to be true!

I don't care about the stuff solosss says cause I suspect him being just a troll. A real bot user would not complain this loud, cause as I said:
The income of bot users with lots of accounts ONLY DECREASED BY ~7% OR 10 SATOSHI!!!
This is basically nothing to them, so a real bot user would just continue to earn from your site even if they have running costs!

you think I'm a Troll? suck my dick
I am ready to demonstrate the work of botnet network for 10,000 accounts, it continues to work and will work. In order for them to understand that you will not be able to stop the botnet network.
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1566042963
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1566042963

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1566042963
Reply with quote  #2

1566042963
Report to moderator
Triple_S
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 30
Merit: 1


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 09:13:11 AM
 #5862

I will continue to work botnet network.I will expand it.

And we will continue to try and protect our genuine users from your greed but unfortunately, your actions harm them as we are forced by you to make these changes.



@Triple_S
I did read it but I trust wetsuits analysis of the situation and numbers much more than yours.


I understand that you trust wetsuit more - I would do so in your position too.
But please forward my criticism to wetsuit, because I'm confident that what I wrote is correct.
solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 09:17:23 AM
 #5863

I will continue to work botnet network.I will expand it.

And we will continue to try and protect our genuine users from your greed but unfortunately, your actions harm them as we are forced by you to make these changes.



@Triple_S
I did read it but I trust wetsuits analysis of the situation and numbers much more than yours.


I understand that you trust wetsuit more - I would do so in your position too.
But please forward my criticism to wetsuit, because I'm confident that what I wrote is correct.

you think wrong, they not only cut the payout, they cut the points. and this will reduce earnings by 80%

but as I wrote above, it will not stop us, we do not bear the cost of botnet, even 20% - for us a good income
TriumphB
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 8
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 09:35:25 AM
 #5864

What's the formula for calculate rewards or minimum free roll payout?

Is there a way to view "how close to normal payout status"?

I didn't understand anything with my personal stats. Without $50 balance, what must I do for eligible all rewards and uncutted payouts?
solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 09:38:23 AM
 #5865

What's the formula for calculate rewards or minimum free roll payout?

Is there a way to view "how close to normal payout status"?

I didn't understand anything with my personal stats. Without $50 balance, what must I do for eligible all rewards and uncutted payouts?
you have to be profitable to them, lose your money, they're greedy.
TheQuin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 699


Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 09:46:51 AM
 #5866

What's the formula for calculate rewards or minimum free roll payout?

Is there a way to view "how close to normal payout status"?

I didn't understand anything with my personal stats. Without $50 balance, what must I do for eligible all rewards and uncutted payouts?

Here is all the information we can make public.

I've got a few more details about the reduced awards algorithm I can share with you.


The algorithm for reducing rewards takes a combination of the balance, wager, lottery and jackpot spending to calculate the reward. Jackpot spending has a higher weight (4x) and the lottery has the highest weight (20x).

If you do not want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to not have reduced rewards.

Most users will not need to keep the full balance though because their gambling history is also added up to calculate.

New accounts have full rewards for the first 100 rolls to help them build up a history and then the algorithm is applied to them. So opening a new account might seem like it helps but it won't.

Additionally, the balance needed to have no captcha is $100.




you have to be profitable to them, lose your money, they're greedy.

You missed the most important differentiator for a gambling business. Anyone who bets gives us a CHANCE to be profitable.

Running a profitable business is not greed. Running botnets to try and bleed that business dry at the expense of genuine faucet user is greed.

freebitcoin.TO WIN A  LAMBORGHINI!..

.
                                ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
                    ▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
                    ▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
                    ▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
                    ▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
                      ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
                           ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
                   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 10:07:48 AM
 #5867

What's the formula for calculate rewards or minimum free roll payout?

Is there a way to view "how close to normal payout status"?

I didn't understand anything with my personal stats. Without $50 balance, what must I do for eligible all rewards and uncutted payouts?

Here is all the information we can make public.

I've got a few more details about the reduced awards algorithm I can share with you.


The algorithm for reducing rewards takes a combination of the balance, wager, lottery and jackpot spending to calculate the reward. Jackpot spending has a higher weight (4x) and the lottery has the highest weight (20x).

If you do not want to gamble you can keep a balance above $50 to not have reduced rewards.

Most users will not need to keep the full balance though because their gambling history is also added up to calculate.

New accounts have full rewards for the first 100 rolls to help them build up a history and then the algorithm is applied to them. So opening a new account might seem like it helps but it won't.

Additionally, the balance needed to have no captcha is $100.




you have to be profitable to them, lose your money, they're greedy.

You missed the most important differentiator for a gambling business. Anyone who bets gives us a CHANCE to be profitable.

Running a profitable business is not greed. Running botnets to try and bleed that business dry at the expense of genuine faucet user is greed.


you give bitcoins - I collect them, it is greed?
forcing people to lose to you in the casino or Deposit into an account, while reducing their costs to a minimum - that's greed
TheQuin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 699


Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 10:24:22 AM
 #5868

you give bitcoins - I collect them, it is greed?

Doing it with more than one account is greed.

forcing people to lose to you in the casino or Deposit into an account, while reducing their costs to a minimum - that's greed

We don't force anyone to do anything. You have forced us to make some changes that mean only people doing certain things get the full benefits. If you and those like you were not so greedy and only used one account we could be more generous to those who are not greedy like you.

freebitcoin.TO WIN A  LAMBORGHINI!..

.
                                ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
                    ▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
                    ▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
                    ▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
                    ▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
                      ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
                           ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
                   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
TriumphB
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 8
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 10:36:43 AM
 #5869

Thanks for the information and I have one last question Smiley

Here is the text at my freeroll page:

Play MULTIPLY BTC or buy lottery tickets to increase your FREE BTC rewards by up to +0.00000399 BTC

4.3180% achieved towards the next +0.00000021 BTC bonus!


What should this number (4.3180%) be for normal payouts, also what should be for max reward (0.00000399 BTC)?


TheQuin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 699


Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 10:41:11 AM
 #5870

That means you are 4.3180% of the way to the first 100%. Then you will get 42 sats and start working towards the next 100% to go to 63 sats.... do that 19 times and get to 399 sats.

freebitcoin.TO WIN A  LAMBORGHINI!..

.
                                ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
                    ▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
                    ▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
                    ▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
                    ▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
                      ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
                           ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
                   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 10:47:02 AM
 #5871

you give bitcoins - I collect them, it is greed?

Doing it with more than one account is greed.

forcing people to lose to you in the casino or Deposit into an account, while reducing their costs to a minimum - that's greed

We don't force anyone to do anything. You have forced us to make some changes that mean only people doing certain things get the full benefits. If you and those like you were not so greedy and only used one account we could be more generous to those who are not greedy like you.

judging by your logic, it's enough for me to Deposit$ 50 into all my accounts and I automatically become a good and conscientious user? can I continue to collect bitcoins like all real users?

you don't reveal the formula for combing bots, not because bots can use it, but because you're ashamed to admit your own greed. admit in is that you need only those users which lose you have money.
I understand you perfectly, but it's not a bot fight - it's greed.
Thirdspace
Hero Member
*****
Online Online

Activity: 1078
Merit: 706


Mixing reinvented for your privacy | chipmixer.com


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 10:50:32 AM
 #5872

I'm not sure yet, a couple of other people have reported the same problem. I've sent the details on to wetsuit and as soon as he gives me an update I'll let everyone know.
everything is clear and without wetsuit, those who do not play reduced the minimum payment, now also removed the ability to activate bonuses 1000% and 500% as well as the activation of the reward point + 100 and + 50
you think wrong, they not only cut the payout, they cut the points. and this will reduce earnings by 80%
I think wetsuit has done this a year ago for a short time because some users (bots) abuse them to game the system
just like before, I'm pretty sure he will turn it on again when the abusers settled down
is this time global switch off (like before) or selective users only?

you can't distinguish bots from real users, why do you think there are so many bots?
if the bonuses were made unavailable only for some users, then I would say wetsuit has done good job identifying those bots
as I remember, a few users complained about their base hourly rewards and requested to get it normalized
wetsuit did fix some legitimate users back to normal rewards and whitelisted them

solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 10:56:52 AM
 #5873

That means you are 4.3180% of the way to the first 100%. Then you will get 42 sats and start working towards the next 100% to go to 63 sats.... do that 19 times and get to 399 sats.

my bots know how to play, they can play certain strategies, they can buy tickets and everything else)) tell me how much and they will do it))
without your hints, they will still receive the necessary information)
just really like to get it from official sources
TheQuin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 699


Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 11:01:27 AM
 #5874

if the bonuses were made unavailable only for some users, then I would say wetsuit has done good job identifying those bots
as I remember, a few users complained about their base hourly rewards and requested to get it normalized
wetsuit did fix some legitimate users back to normal rewards and whitelisted them

He's done a good job at recognising what they are doing in maxing out the RP bonus and then using the RP BTC bonus to make themselves profitable. There are also genuine users that do the same thing so they get hurt by the actions of the botnet operators.

It is a constant battle that has been going on for nearly 5 years now. Every time we do something to stop them they adjust and we have to come up with another measure. So nothing is permanent.



you don't reveal the formula for combing bots, not because bots can use it, but because you're ashamed to admit your own greed. admit in is that you need only those users which lose you have money.
I understand you perfectly, but it's not a bot fight - it's greed.

All gambling sites need some customers to lose money, others win, and the house pays its costs and makes a profit on the difference. That is not greed it is how gambling works.

Botnets leaching off it increases the costs. The people who suffer are the genuine users who just want to use the faucet. That is entirely caused by the greed of the botnet operators.



my bots know how to play, they can play certain strategies, they can buy tickets and everything else)) tell me how much and they will do it))
without your hints, they will still receive the necessary information)
just really like to get it from official sources

We are well aware of that. That's why we constantly monitor you and adjust things to remain profitable.


freebitcoin.TO WIN A  LAMBORGHINI!..

.
                                ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
                    ▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
                    ▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
                    ▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
                    ▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
                      ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
                           ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
                   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 11:07:35 AM
 #5875

if the bonuses were made unavailable only for some users, then I would say wetsuit has done good job identifying those bots
as I remember, a few users complained about their base hourly rewards and requested to get it normalized
wetsuit did fix some legitimate users back to normal rewards and whitelisted them

He's done a good job at recognising what they are doing in maxing out the RP bonus and then using the RP BTC bonus to make themselves profitable. There are also genuine users that do the same thing so they get hurt by the actions of the botnet operators.

It is a constant battle that has been going on for nearly 5 years now. Every time we do something to stop them they adjust and we have to come up with another measure. So nothing is permanent.



you don't reveal the formula for combing bots, not because bots can use it, but because you're ashamed to admit your own greed. admit in is that you need only those users which lose you have money.
I understand you perfectly, but it's not a bot fight - it's greed.

All gambling sites need some customers to lose money, others win, and the house pays its costs and makes a profit on the difference. That is not greed it is how gambling works.

Botnets leaching off it increases the costs. The people who suffer are the genuine users who just want to use the faucet. That is entirely caused by the greed of the botnet operators.



my bots know how to play, they can play certain strategies, they can buy tickets and everything else)) tell me how much and they will do it))
without your hints, they will still receive the necessary information)
just really like to get it from official sources

We are well aware of that. That's why we constantly monitor you and adjust things to remain profitable.


if you are a gambling site, you need to also position yourself as a casino, if you are positing as a faucet, you need to be prepared that people will take what you give them. rather than crying that botnets are killing your business

why sacrifice real users if you can improve your protection from bots, there is a lot of software support that can help in this.
but you do not do it? it is advantageous for you to kill all those who do not bring you profit.
TheQuin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 699


Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 11:10:58 AM
 #5876

if you are a gambling site, you need to also position yourself as a casino, if you are positing as a faucet, you need to be prepared that people will take what you give them. rather than crying that botnets are killing your business

We have always been both of those things. In all the time we have been around this is the first time I can remember a botnet operator so upset they came here to cry in public. We must have done something right, thanks for making my day.

freebitcoin.TO WIN A  LAMBORGHINI!..

.
                                ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
                    ▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
                    ▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
                    ▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
                    ▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
                      ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
                           ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
                   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
solosss
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 84
Merit: 0


View Profile
April 27, 2018, 11:14:53 AM
 #5877

if you are a gambling site, you need to also position yourself as a casino, if you are positing as a faucet, you need to be prepared that people will take what you give them. rather than crying that botnets are killing your business

We have always been both of those things. In all the time we have been around this is the first time I can remember a botnet operator so upset they came here to cry in public. We must have done something right, thanks for making my day.


I'm not upset, it's still profitable for me to work on your site, my bots can always be adapted for any type of protection. from this only you lose, fewer real users will come to your site, and my bots will continue to rob your balance
thank you for the fact that with such ease I can collect BTC
TheQuin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 699


Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 11:17:08 AM
 #5878

I'm not upset,

He doth protest too much. With the amount of time you've spent crying your eyes out here, it is impossible to believe that.  Cheesy

freebitcoin.TO WIN A  LAMBORGHINI!..

.
                                ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
                    ▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
                    ▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
                    ▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
                    ▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
                      ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
                           ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
                   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
Dav7
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 240
Merit: 103


Making Money Online since 2006


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 11:18:48 AM
 #5879

if you are a gambling site, you need to also position yourself as a casino, if you are positing as a faucet, you need to be prepared that people will take what you give them. rather than crying that botnets are killing your business

We have always been both of those things. In all the time we have been around this is the first time I can remember a botnet operator so upset they came here to cry in public. We must have done something right, thanks for making my day.


 Grin Grin Grin

If he keeps saying it is still profitable, why all this crying around here right?  Wink


TheQuin
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 1008
Merit: 699


Freebitco.in Support https://bit.ly/2I9BVS2


View Profile WWW
April 27, 2018, 11:21:28 AM
 #5880

Grin Grin Grin

If he keeps saying it is still profitable, why all this crying around here right?  Wink

I don't think he's the sharpest knife in the kitchen drawer as they say in my part of the world.

freebitcoin.TO WIN A  LAMBORGHINI!..

.
                                ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄███████████▄▄▄▄▄
                    ▄▄▄▄▄██████████████████████████████████▄▄▄▄
                    ▀██████████████████████████████████████████████▄▄▄
                    ▄▄████▄█████▄████████████████████████████▄█████▄████▄▄
                    ▀████████▀▀▀████████████████████████████████▀▀▀██████████▄
                      ▀▀▀████▄▄▄███████████████████████████████▄▄▄██████████
                           ▀█████▀  ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀  ▀█████▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
                   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
Pages: « 1 ... 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 [294] 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 ... 479 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!