【 BOT 】 C.A.T. Cryptsy Automatic Trader 1 Copy@0.8 (Old Topic Beta1-Beta3V8)

[mattle74]

Actually is hard for me to understand what happens in the HTTP Protocol/Java HTTP Library.
But it seems that in the next release i must study a way to FORCE the restart of a Frozen Markets.............i don't see any solution.

I'm going to try going back to Beta2 v9 because I didn't have this excessive amount of frozen markets until Beta3.

[Sampey]

Actually is hard for me to understand what happens in the HTTP Protocol/Java HTTP Library.
But it seems that in the next release i must study a way to FORCE the restart of a Frozen Markets.............i don't see any solution.

I'm going to try going back to Beta2 v9 because I didn't have this excessive amount of frozen markets until Beta3.

If things going better tell me 

[betaw0lf]

If you are confident the trading application will make capital gain, then take a cut of the capital gain as your payment. This will provide percentage based income for you and cheaper investment/app price for consumer. Please consider this. You'll make alot more money this way, and at the same time people can try the app for free to see if the automated trades will actually prove worthwhile. Any one confident in their product would do this because it's simply smart marketing.

[Sampey]

If you are confident the trading application will make capital gain, then take a cut of the capital gain as your payment. This will provide percentage based income for you and cheaper investment/app price for consumer. Please consider this. You'll make alot more money this way, and at the same time people can try the app for free to see if the automated trades will actually prove worthwhile. Any one confident in their product would do this because it's simply smart marketing.

And what's the method to know if you have made Gain?
I Give you a free copy and then i wait for your pm with written "I Made 2BTC i give you 0.1" 

[megaplage]

Just got a curious gain log entry :

2013-12-30 22:05:01   Buy   0.00000685   120.00000000   0.00000023   Sell   0.00000712   16.83029450   0.00000036   0.00000059   0.00000395   0.01394071
2013-12-19 04:35:39   Buy   0.00000685   120.00000000   0.00000037   Sell   0.00000712   27.12131916   0.00000058   0.00000095   0.00000637   0.01394708

Look at the date - at this time the market doesn't even exists
Maybe something from the date conversion Errors :

2013-12-30 09:42:52 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-28 22:26:32
2013-12-30 22:04:34 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-28 14:37:49
2013-12-20 10:15:54 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-28 14:34:25
2013-12-30 14:07:39 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-30 09:54:17
2013-12-30 07:19:08 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-30 15:35:08


And please explain the statistic information panel

 - which unit is used for the values ? btc ??
 - the trade fees cumulative are after few hours running already 0.18 ? a manual check of the global gain log (Excel) gave me a by a magnitude smaller value


Thank You

[Sampey]

Just got a curious gain log entry :

2013-12-30 22:05:01   Buy   0.00000685   120.00000000   0.00000023   Sell   0.00000712   16.83029450   0.00000036   0.00000059   0.00000395   0.01394071
2013-12-19 04:35:39   Buy   0.00000685   120.00000000   0.00000037   Sell   0.00000712   27.12131916   0.00000058   0.00000095   0.00000637   0.01394708

Look at the date - at this time the market doesn't even exists
Maybe something from the date conversion Errors :

2013-12-30 09:42:52 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-28 22:26:32
2013-12-30 22:04:34 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-28 14:37:49
2013-12-20 10:15:54 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-28 14:34:25
2013-12-30 14:07:39 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-30 09:54:17
2013-12-30 07:19:08 - Error Parsing Time Stamp, Input String :2013-12-30 15:35:08


And please explain the statistic information panel

 - which unit is used for the values ? btc ??
 - the trade fees cumulative are after few hours running already 0.18 ? a manual check of the global gain log (Excel) gave me a by a magnitude smaller value


Thank You

I Will add the 2 General Statistic Panel For LTC e XPM Markets. Actually if you run BTC+LTC+XPM Markets total statistics will be Wrong.
You could run if you want 3 Instance Of CAT and statistics Will Be Correct 

The question is : are you running BTC+LTC+XPM markets?

[megaplage]

The question is : are you running BTC+LTC+XPM markets?

That's it    BTC+LTC

[Sampey]

Ok this is the error in the total panel. I will fix tonight, sorry for inconvenience 

[betaw0lf]

If you are confident the trading application will make capital gain, then take a cut of the capital gain as your payment. This will provide percentage based income for you and cheaper investment/app price for consumer. Please consider this. You'll make alot more money this way, and at the same time people can try the app for free to see if the automated trades will actually prove worthwhile. Any one confident in their product would do this because it's simply smart marketing.

And what's the method to know if you have made Gain?
I Give you a free copy and then i wait for your pm with written "I Made 2BTC i give you 0.1"  

No, you simply add that into the app to track profits generated by trades, just like you log trade results. % of each trade goes to you. Disable the application once a certain amount of profit has been generated, and provide a wallet address for deposit. << Just an idea, I'm sure there's other ways this could be implemented.

[Sampey]

If you are confident the trading application will make capital gain, then take a cut of the capital gain as your payment. This will provide percentage based income for you and cheaper investment/app price for consumer. Please consider this. You'll make alot more money this way, and at the same time people can try the app for free to see if the automated trades will actually prove worthwhile. Any one confident in their product would do this because it's simply smart marketing.

And what's the method to know if you have made Gain?
I Give you a free copy and then i wait for your pm with written "I Made 2BTC i give you 0.1"  

No, you simply add that into the app to track profits generated by trades, just like you log trade results. % of each trade goes to you. Disable the application once a certain amount of profit has been generated, and provide a wallet address for deposit. << Just an idea, I'm sure there's other ways this could be implemented.

Don't you think i have tought about that? I'm a programmer, i know all the problems, there's no "good" way, too much easy to crack. Price is good, people like C.a.T. , these are my Feedback https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=130152
This is the last day year offer : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392214.0 is a 50% Discount on full price. Sounds good?

[duuuuude]

all these new sales have me scared about my investment in CAT, i spend over 900$ in cryptos to get this, and now it will not only be .6 in a day but .6 is only 490$ right now. and with the new influx of people how will i ever ROI, there is only so much room between orders to make a profit, if it is only 10 people there will be  1/10 profit for each, now if there is a 1000 people that means 1/1000 profit for each.  only so many people can do the same thing before there is no profit, when i bought it i didnt know there would be 100's of copies  i would have to compete with.


j

p.s.  i am not saying anythig bad about CAT, i am just saying some of my concerns.

[Sampey]

all these new sales have me scared about my investment in CAT, i spend over 900$ in cryptos to get this, and now it will not only be .6 in a day but .6 is only 490$ right now. and with the new influx of people how will i ever ROI, there is only so much room between orders to make a profit, if it is only 10 people there will be  1/10 profit for each, now if there is a 1000 people that means 1/1000 profit for each.  only so many people can do the same thing before there is no profit, when i bought it i didnt know there would be 100's of copies  i would have to compete with.

This is not true, many C.A.T copies help markets movements, i have study this problems creating a simulation.
My C.a.T. can move your Frozen C.a.T. and vice versa, don't worry about it. Your Gain will remain the same for a LONG LONG Time.

[tmu]

I am most eager to buy Your C.A.T. but unfortunately I don't have 0.8BTC at the moment 
But have I understood Cryptsy correctly, so that if I refer to someone I don't actually loss anything?
Meaning that I could refer You and loss nothing? Not even C.points 
My calculations (very accurate ones) show me that I should have o.8BTC in any time soon (or later) 
If I should refer You already could that be counted towards me when I finally purchase Your program 

[Sampey]

I am most eager to buy Your C.A.T. but unfortunately I don't have 0.8BTC at the moment  
But have I understood Cryptsy correctly, so that if I refer to someone I don't actually loss anything?
Meaning that I could refer You and loss nothing? Not even C.points  
My calculations (very accurate ones) show me that I should have o.8BTC in any time soon (or later)  
If I should refer You already could that be counted towards me when I finally purchase Your program  

Cryptsy points are an Extra bonus for you and for the referred users. Obviously is only a Gain and you don't loose nothing.

Check My Last Day Of The Year Offer :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392214.0

0.5 / COPY (Instead of 0. if community reach a group by of 10 Copies. Book your copy here  

[duuuuude]

that answer doesnt make any sense,  let take a market for example,

JKC/LTC

 i put a bracket by at .40000  sell at .5000 ( i actually watched this happen already)

then another with cat comes in and brackets  .40001  and .4999  with many more litecoins then me, wich means all of that person deals have to go thru before my bracket even work.
then another cat user comes in and bracket .40100 and .4800 and so on and so on till they are no  chance for my order to buy and sell cause there is already so many trying to do the same thing.
does that make more sense.  now if 100 more show up, how will there be any chances.


j

[Sampey]

that answer doesnt make any sense,  let take a market for example,

JKC/LTC

 i put a bracket by at .40000  sell at .5000 ( i actually watched this happen already)

then another with cat comes in and brackets  .40001  and .4999  with many more litecoins then me, wich means all of that person deals have to go thru before my bracket even work.
then another cat user comes in and bracket .40100 and .4800 and so on and so on till they are no  chance for my order to buy and sell cause there is already so many trying to do the same thing.
does that make more sense.  now if 100 more show up, how will there be any chances.


j

In your example you don't take care of :
- All the users that works manually on Cryptsy (99% surely)
- Other BOT
- PIng.Pong Parameter

Truste me............more C.A.T. copies doesn't means less gain..........

[duuuuude]

im not talking about others, i am talking about the other cat traders who are doing the same thing i am,  how could 100's of user make the same profit. as would 10 people doing it.  there is simply only so much profit in each market thats how they work, and cat makes money by nibbling on each trade, now how can i get the same amount as before when there are 100's of other now nibbling on those same trades.


j

[Sampey]

im not talking about others, i am talking about the other cat traders who are doing the same thing i am,  how could 100's of user make the same profit. as would 10 people doing it.  there is simply only so much profit in each market thats how they work, and cat makes money by nibbling on each trade, now how can i get the same amount as before when there are 100's of other now nibbling on those same trades.


j

Because on Cryptsy there aren't only CAT Users, this is the reason.
Let's do an example with 100 C.A.T.

Ho many cat users will be on the same markets? Let's do 50 (at the same time).
How many of them have same orders, set with same values, same Pong (reference price is the most important thing)? 10? I don't think so.
How many other users will buy/sell during that time? A Lot, more than all the C.A.T. users.

Your example is because you're gaining less or because you think that you will gain less??

[oswald]

im not talking about others, i am talking about the other cat traders who are doing the same thing i am,  how could 100's of user make the same profit. as would 10 people doing it.  there is simply only so much profit in each market thats how they work, and cat makes money by nibbling on each trade, now how can i get the same amount as before when there are 100's of other now nibbling on those same trades.
j

you mean, everybody share the same cake, and by adding more people, you are going to get smaller cake..?

yes, that is true if there's no miner out there, you can't buy altcoin without miners keep mining the coin, and the altcoin price will not getting higher if the altcoin difficulty is very low, means only several miners exist

look at bitcoin, the difficulty is insanely high, but why do you keep your btc and not alcoin which has lower mining difficulty, yes because bicoin is an attractive market, adding more Gigahashes means increase in difficulty, more difficulty means coin is harder to get, and the price of the coin is flying to the moon

what traders should do is choose attractive market, and promote crypsty.com to miners out there,

I want to know btc/usd price in cryptsy, you can see bitcoinwisdom.com is comparing price in several site, you can see how attractive the site by comparing the price

I wonder how many trader here know that people can't get altcoin without solving scrypt..?

but really, the one make most of money is cryptsy, if you have thousand dollars I suggest you build another one, the fee can be as low as 0.000000001 but it is plus and not minus to your account, and remember keep your site attractive for traders and miners 

[Bitcoin-Corporation.com]

This is not true, many C.A.T copies help markets movements, i have study this problems creating a simulation.
My C.a.T. can move your Frozen C.a.T. and vice versa, don't worry about it. Your Gain will remain the same for a LONG LONG Time.

This is the same thing I have concluded and I have decided that we want to start a trade pool. We can make the markets move. They do it in other trading, such as forex. Hell, it's VERY common in forex and the stock market. It's also done with bitcoin WITHOUT using C.A.T.

Anybody want to be in on the ground floor, PM me.

BC