[1423GH] ABCPool PPS - Proxy Pool For High & Steady Mining Rewards

[bal3wolf]

its pretty nice pays less then deepbits pps but less fees my math says i will make .70 here and .65 on deepbit with 1300mhash.  And might be a bug in auto payouts its set to .5 for me and im past that and it didnt payout.  It just payed out.

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[MintCondition]

its pretty nice pays less then deepbits pps but less fees my math says i will make .70 here and .65 on deepbit with 1300mhash.

You are right that ABCPool pays more than Deepbit PPS. At deepbit there is a 10% fee on PPS, so if you earn ca. 0.65 over there, you'll earn ca. 0.65 / 90% = 0.72 at ABCPool, because we have no fee. On top of that, ABCPool pays for stale shares, and deepbit does not  That will earn you an extra 0%-1%.

And might be a bug in auto payouts its set to .5 for me and im past that and it didnt payout.

We do not mention it on the site yet, but automatic Payout runs two times per day: around 11am and 11pm UTC. That way we prevent a lot of small transactions and tx fees. So your 0.5 BTC should be there in just a few minutes.

As soon as we roll out the next website update, payout times will appear on the 'my account' page.

[bal3wolf]

Ah i see that would be why lol i was used to other auto payouts that payed soon as it hit the #.

[MintCondition]

The pool is humming along nicely between 40-50GH today. There have been no service interruptions in the meantime.

We have one 'General Interest' announcement. This is not something ABCPool specific; you will encounter it in every pool, although it is not widely known. It's a bug in Phoenix (and probably other clients too) that we discovered while building the pool. It affects people that have multiple workers per GPU, or use slower cards that mine below 80MH/s.

**The problem**
Mining clients (Phoenix, maybe others too) use a workqueue which they fill in advance with new work, so that when the current work is done there is new work available immediately. This is actually a smart thing to do, but has as a side effect: the period between requesting work and submitting a share for it now becomes at least 2x the time it takes for your worker to complete a workitem. For slow miners (approx. <80 MH/s) this means it may take longer than 120 seconds to hand in solutions.

However, 120 seconds is the default cutoff time for pushpool-based mining pools. Almost all pools use the pushpool software. After 120 seconds have passed since handing out work, they will no longer accept solutions for it. That's a good thing, because it ensures the quality of the Bitcoin network. Your mining client should and could have asked for new work in the meantime.

But Phoenix does not ask for new work soon enough by default. You can force it to refresh its queue regularly at the cost of a lot of network traffic and server load. But that will only solve the problem partly, as Phoenix will never abandon work it has started unless a new block is found. So if your miner is slower than <40 MH, it will still take >120s for a single workitem to complete. Phoenix *will* produce some invalid shares every two minutes in that case, no matter which pool you mine with.

Again, this is a client-side issue with all pools and not with ABCPool specifically. It only affects workers <80MH/s, and can only be solved by switching to a bug-free mining client.

** The solution **
If you use multiple workers per GPU, make sure they never mine below 80MH/s. Maybe even consider 120MH/s as a minimum, just to be sure. If you have a slow GPU (<80MH/s), look for a mining client that is willing to abandon the *current* workitem instead of the queued one. If someone finds one, please let your fellow miners know about it.

Again, this is an issue with all pools and not with ABCPool specifically. It only affects workers <80MH/s.

[bal3wolf]

didnt know that that could be why im getting stales and invailds and my 5870 and 5970 clients are showing 0-3 stales in guiminer using poclbm per like 20k shares but i have my 8800gt mining to and it only gets 20-30mh i bet it causes them lol.

[MintCondition]

To support users that are new to Bitcoin we have started a forum thread in the Newbies forum. If you are still a restricted forum user ('newbie'), you may ask your questions regarding ABCPool over there, and we will regularly check it to provide support.

[crazy987]

im following this, might switch over

[bal3wolf]

i have a suggestion if you could have auto payout 4 times a day but its not really a must sence if you have .20 in your acount you can manual payout and just get charged the 0.005 right thats what its been doing it looks like and if its under .20 you get charged 0.01.

[MintCondition]

Earlier this day we had an issue with the pool that caused some of our members to spend several seconds idling on several occasions, and caused a higher than normal amount of invalid shares. We've since added countermeasures against this and adjusted pool parameters. Everything is now back to normal. Our apologies for the hickup.

[MintCondition]

i have a suggestion if you could have auto payout 4 times a day but its not really a must sence if you have .20 in your acount you can manual payout and just get charged the 0.005 right thats what its been doing it looks like and if its under .20 you get charged 0.01.

Thanks for the suggestion bal3wolf. We have the two times a day policy in effect to protect our members from high transaction fees, although each user could also do this himself by increasing the auto-payout amount.

Therefore, if no one objects to it within a few days, we'll increase payouts to four times a day.

[rTech]

Moved my small miners from BTCGuild to your kind service

I'l hope that i got warm welcome and i enjoy to stay <3

[Brian DeLoach]

Throwing 20 gh/s your way

The stalerate is the lowest I've seen from any pool, awesome!

Some feature requests:

• Rewards earned in the past 24 hours
• Cash out history
• Donation total
• Lifetime stats should be displayed separately. Valid, stale, and invalid stats should be per 24 hours

This is a very unique pool that more people should know about. Keep up the great work!

[MintCondition]

Welcome Alfalfa!

Throwing 20 gh/s your way

The stalerate is the lowest I've seen from any pool, awesome!

Thanks, that's what some heavy modifications of pushpool and bitcoin can do

Some feature requests:

• Rewards earned in the past 24 hours
• Cash out history
• Donation total
• Lifetime stats should be displayed separately. Valid, stale, and invalid stats should be per 24 hours

This is a very unique pool that more people should know about. Keep up the great work!

ABCPool user stats are quite sober at the moment, we hope to extend those next week. Thanks for your input!

[MintCondition]

NEWS: With mixed feelings we have to announce that due to the overwhelming demand we have to close down registration for now. That way we can keep on providing the best quality service to our current miners.

Leave a message in this topic or turn on notification and we'll let you know when we are once again welcoming new miners!

[c_k]

Registration appears to be open again?

Oh weird, closed again.

You guys should setup an IRC channel on freenode

[Stupidpal]

Started mining wiht my measly hashrate.

[bal3wolf]

Are the servers getting overloaded some im noticing connection problems showing up on guiminer now waset befor and the speed of the miners are boucning around alot usualy if im not using my pc they stay pretty solid.  But the low stales are crazy nice iv done almost 30k with 0.

[MintCondition]

Are the servers getting overloaded some im noticing connection problems showing up on guiminer now waset befor and the speed of the miners are boucning around alot usualy if im not using my pc they stay pretty solid.  

Our systems have been operating normally all day, hashrate has been stable and system load is low. We also have some of our own rigs hooked up to the pool, and these have not experienced any connection problems for the past day. We're currently seeing 99.42% valid shares reported over the past four hours, combined for all users.

I suspect there may be a problem with your setup or your internet connection. Perhaps you can find out more by inquiring on the guiminer thread. I hope you'll succeed in fixing it!

But the low stales are crazy nice iv done almost 30k with 0.

Yes, we like them too

[bal3wolf]

I thk it might been cause i was limiting my cpu to 12% thru realtemp raising it to 25% seems to helped.

[MintCondition]

NEWS: ABCPool Registration is open again until we reach our next threshold.