NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information

[Hegemon]

if Mintpal adds NXT, hope they will write it NXT and not Nextcoin like actually they do.

[TwinWinNerD]

BTW, when will you folks release the source code?

When the code is released, I would like some way that will make cloning by FrictionlessCoin either illegal or difficult (put some bugs in it)

I hope so too! Not because i am against clones, but because this stupid-fuck is missrepresenting us...

[martismartis]

I tried to deposit some Nxt to BTER yesterday and it already had more than 20 confirmations after an hour, but didn't go through yet. I already contacted the support.

Does anybody else have this issue?

Go to your account and near NXT try to push SYNC. It works sometimes.

[Come-from-Beyond]

When the code is released, I would like some way that will make cloning by FrictionlessCoin either illegal or difficult (put some bugs in it)

Why? 0.7.6 source code already released. If FC hasn't used it already I bet he won't use it in the future.

[Damelon]

BTW, when will you folks release the source code?

When the code is released, I would like some way that will make cloning by FrictionlessCoin either illegal or difficult (put some bugs in it)

I hope so too! Not because i am against clones, but because this stupid-fuck is missrepresenting us...

I don't think this will happen and nor should it.

If dickheads were banned from using technology, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford would never have been in business.

Restricting the code would restrict everyone. And second: who would decide who COULD use it? You can't get more centralised than that.

Not saying I like it, just saying you would initiate some highly undesirable developments.

[verymuchso]

My current setup is that i use embedded jetty and feed the Nxt servlet on startup to jetty.
What's the setup you use for jetty? Will i still need to embed my own or will 0.8.0 take care of that?

You shouldn't need to deal with jetty directly. You call Nxt.init() which will trigger all initializations, and will start the jetty servlets it needs (if nxt.shareMyAddress=false, it will not start the PeerServlet, if nxt.enableUIServer=false it will not start the UserServlet for the NRS UI), and is safe to call multiple times. Then, there will be Nxt.getBlockchain(), Nxt.getBlockchainProcessor() and Nxt.getTransactionProcessor() to get hold of the corresponding singletons. The init adds a shutdownHook to handle stopping the threads and closing the database at the jvm shutdown, I assume you never need to shutdown it explicitly once started until the application exit.

That's a lot of changes I am going through, so 0.8.0e should come out some time next week, and I will have to keep it compatible with 0.7.6 peers until client packagers and developers transition to 0.8.0.

We included the ability to start and stop Jetty since we like the user to be able to delete the blockchain and start-fresh from a command in the UI  we also used a shutdown hook but then to gracefully take down jetty so Nxt had time to shut down and write everything from memory. As i understand it you now have all cleanup code in a shutdown listener of your own, thats nice.

I believe so to that there is no use for a shutdown/startup sequence in a single jvm session, just restart jvm and your done.

What can you say about the status of the database, will it remain H2 and will this remain an internal implementation or do you see developers accessing or updating data in the database them selves?

Also, regarding custom colored coins. Will you be doing some more standardization in that area? Will there be more work towards an API to work with *custom* attachments? Not that it's strictly needed just wondering if you had ideas in that area.

[maratmmz]

what for nexern client?26th jan was date reliase but today is 20th feb and it isn't.now we got 5 different client.solaris Clienxt and other.

[antanst]

Why? 0.7.6 source code already released. If FC hasn't used it already I bet he won't use it in the future.

Where is it? The nxt-public BitBucket repository still has the old 0.4 version if I'm not mistaken.

[rickyjames]

Woah, woah, woah.  I want to call a time out here for a few pages.

no problem, I understand, but at least there is some kind of reaction.

Pin, thanks for understanding.  The next-to-last thing I want to do here is piss you off.  You are showing great organizational skills and initiative here and those are wonderful assets.   I just want to slow down a little and channel all the energy you are showing.  When you harness a fast moving whitewater river, you get a calm, placid, slow moving lake.  But that lake has the controlled energy in it to power a city.

I'm still coming back later with project funding spreadsheet links.   I just need a little time to set it all up.

OK.  I have established a new Google Gmail / Drive account called nxtfunds . I hereby claim primary ownership of this account and I am sending the password to Pin via PM so we now share ownership of its contents.   Access will be expanded for various documents in this account to the appropriate members of the community as we get our act together here.  So far in the Google Drive section of this account I have set up (the barebones skeletons of) three funding request application forms and three form response spreadsheets for each of NXTmarketingfund, NXTtechdevfund and NXTinfrastructurefund.  

I've got to go to work where I am totally overloaded, and I am also working on another big NXT project (a trifold brochure layout) for Texas Bitcoin Conference.  So I am turning this over to Pin for further organization for now until I can get back to continue shaping it up.  

Pin, if you don't know how to use Google Drive / Docs to organize a collaborative project, well, have a fun time learning.  Step one is making the application forms public and advertising their URLs so people can start applying for NXT.  Feel free to modify / add to the forms before releasing them.  It will be a while before there are  committees in place to actually PROCESS these applications, but we can at least get started in COLLECTING them.

I am mainly interested in the project application treasury accountability control at this point, but this sure would be a good place to set up some committee organization forms and spreadsheets...

More to come.  

[McDoxy]

what for nexern client?26th jan was date reliase but today is 20th feb and it isn't.now we got 5 different client.solaris Clienxt and other.

As far as I know the 26th jan wasn't the release date but the start of the testing phase. I think he said something about March for the release because he doesn't want to half-ass it.

[abctc]

if Mintpal adds NXT, hope they will write it NXT and not Nextcoin like actually they do.

Never ending story...

   ... thanks to Graviton (the nextcoin.org owner).

[Come-from-Beyond]

Why? 0.7.6 source code already released. If FC hasn't used it already I bet he won't use it in the future.

Where is it? The nxt-public BitBucket repository still has the old 0.4 version if I'm not mistaken.

https://github.com/stevedoe/nxt-client

[GCInc.]

if Mintpal adds NXT, hope they will write it NXT and not Nextcoin like actually they do.

Never ending story...

   ... thanks to Graviton (the nextcoin.org owner).

You have an agenda there, or just wanking around?

[FrictionlessCoin]

Why? 0.7.6 source code already released. If FC hasn't used it already I bet he won't use it in the future.

Where is it? The nxt-public BitBucket repository still has the old 0.4 version if I'm not mistaken.

https://github.com/stevedoe/nxt-client

Is that the official repository? 

[nxtsky]

Is that the official repository? 

Most of us just ignore you.

[Damelon]

You have an agenda there, or just wanking around?

Just stick to saving face and dgex advertisements whenever you come here...  you will regret going down this road...  TRUST ME!    

Getting a bit tired of constant Graviton bashing. 

No problem if you don't like them, but the constant reactions is getting a bit old.

[nexern]

what for nexern client?26th jan was date reliase but today is 20th feb and it isn't.now we got 5 different client.solaris Clienxt and other.

yes, still testing and adding some more features. atm i am working on the portfolio structure.
here is a screenshot of the current AE version how it looks atm.

http://nxtexplorer.com/download/ae-003.png

the good thing is, that we have no shortage on good clients, so i am using the time to add some
usefull features (quoteboards/market scanner) and a prototype for distributed application within the client.

[instacalm]

You have an agenda there, or just wanking around?

Just stick to saving face and dgex advertisements whenever you come here...  you will regret going down this road...  TRUST ME!    

Getting a bit tired of constant Graviton bashing.

No problem if you don't like them, but the constant reactions is getting a bit old.

+1

[pinarello]

Woah, woah, woah.  I want to call a time out here for a few pages.

no problem, I understand, but at least there is some kind of reaction.

Pin, thanks for understanding.  The next-to-last thing I want to do here is piss you off.  You are showing great organizational skills and initiative here and those are wonderful assets.   I just want to slow down a little and channel all the energy you are showing.  When you harness a fast moving whitewater river, you get a calm, placid, slow moving lake.  But that lake has the controlled energy in it to power a city.

I'm still coming back later with project funding spreadsheet links.   I just need a little time to set it all up.

OK.  I have established a new Google Gmail / Drive account called nxtfunds . I hereby claim primary ownership of this account and I am sending the password to Pin via PM so we now share ownership of its contents.   Access will be expanded for various documents in this account to the appropriate members of the community as we get our act together here.  So far in the Google Drive section of this account I have set up (the barebones skeletons of) three funding request application forms and three form response spreadsheets for each of NXTmarketingfund, NXTtechdevfund and NXTinfrastructurefund.  

I've got to go to work where I am totally overloaded, and I am also working on another big NXT project (a trifold brochure layout) for Texas Bitcoin Conference.  So I am turning this over to Pin for further organization for now until I can get back to continue shaping it up.  

Pin, if you don't know how to use Google Drive / Docs to organize a collaborative project, well, have a fun time learning.  Step one is making the application forms public and advertising their URLs so people can start applying for NXT.  Feel free to modify / add to the forms before releasing them.  It will be a while before there are  committees in place to actually PROCESS these applications, but we can at least get started in COLLECTING them.

I am mainly interested in the project application treasury accountability control at this point, but this sure would be a good place to set up some committee organization forms and spreadsheets...

More to come.  

Thank you R.

for the moment I let things setle a bit.

[pinarello]

did anyone tried atomic-trade, tried to make an account the other day but it didnt work.