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February 20, 2014, 03:02:33 AM
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updated to 0.7.6!
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update committee boards:

NXTinfrastructure board: 9 projects ----> 1 validated, 7 non objected, 1 objected

If no objection by tommorrow first project "payment modules for the main open source ecommerce and CMS systems" project leader Damelon, will receive 50K from the infrastructure unclaimed coins fund.


Having made a general expression of dismay a few posts back, let me zoom in here a little.  Pin, I like you and we see eye to eye on a lot of things and I applaud your initative and these committees can probably use a Trail Boss and you might very well be the right person for that task. 

But I gotta call it like I see it.  And one guy who has not been voted in to be a leader just cannot make statements like "If no objection by tommorrow first project XYZ will receive 50K from the infrastructure unclaimed coins fund."  and "If no concensus committee has to vote" when the committee hasn't even had time to say boo to each other yet.  I haven't gotten involved yet because I thought we were still in some kind of phase where people were still putting their names in to APPLY for the committee. 

Somehow I missed the memo that we've got the tach redlined while we're screaming down the freeway of love in a pink Cadillac. 

So I'm gonna say two things and shut up.  I hereby vote no on every single infrastructure project until I see its details on a spreadsheet line.  And I'm gonna go off and create that spreadsheet right now.  I'll be back with the links.


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February 20, 2014, 03:43:24 AM
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Dev Response Requested

As I've mentioned prior, CoinPayments is working on adding Nxt to their offering. Please help me address this question:

"I've been working on NXT some more today and looking at this page
http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Handling_deposits it sounds like
transactions aren't really "safe" and can disappear until they get 720
confirms (~12 hours). Is that right?"
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February 20, 2014, 03:57:46 AM
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Why? What's the point?

BTC address (that's mot easy to remember)
a long english sentence
telphone number

have a easy rememebered and strong  secret phrase.
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February 20, 2014, 03:58:35 AM
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8 projects waiting for approval in infrastructure committee:

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=806&p=3877#p3877

2 projects waiting for approval in marketing fund committee (salsazc please look for double entry with your administered fund)

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=807

please go discuss and vote.

thank you

update committee boards:

NXTinfrastructure board: 9 projects ----> 1 validated, 7 non objected, 1 objected

If no objection by tommorrow first project "payment modules for the main open source ecommerce and CMS systems" project leader Damelon, will receive 50K from the infrastructure unclaimed coins fund.

Any objections can be formulated here: https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=806&start=20

NXTmarketingfund: 3 projects------> 2 non objected, 1 objected

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=807

NXTtechfund: 1 project------> more info required

https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=808



What happens to the objected one?

If no concensus committee has to vote (voting system tbd, non gameable voting system)

Woah, woah, woah.  I want to call a time out here for a few pages.

I'm not trying to be the Grinch here, but I STRONGLY think we've got to get a better handle on this whole process before we just start handing out NXT left and right to ANYBODY.  

The infrastructure spending thread has been open for all of about 36 hours.  Already we've got 9 projects in the queue and only 23 posts in the thread - less than 3 per project.  There is NO WAY we have given the proper amount of deliberation to what is being proposed here.   And a vote is being called for already if we haven't achieved agreement as a committee?  

Um...what's wrong with this picture?

I am a big believer in spreadsheets to collect all the data in one place and if ever there was a need for them, it's right now.   We need to generate a standard spreadsheet listing who is asking, what their project is, how much they want, and a link to a thread that talks about their individual project.  Just for starters.

We need to establish a rule that nobody gets a vote on their project for at least a week after they've proposed it to avoid the exact kind of rush to judgement that is happening here.  I would personally prefer at least two weeks, but I don't want anybody to think I'm TOTALLY crazy...

I also sort of thought there was gonna be some kind of vetting of people putting their names down for committees, where they would have to put in at least one post describing why they thought they were qualified to serve on a committee, what they wanted to accomplish there, blah blah blah, and um....we might actually VOTE IN A POLL to pick the top 5?

Instead it's just put your name down as a candidate and you're in?  On as many committees as you want?

So how is voting for funding going to work in a group of people like THAT?

Hey, I'm all for rapid progress but we've got to establish some kind of initial setup and standards here and PACE OURSELVES FOR THE LONG GAME or this bounty of NXT is going to be gone in a FLASH.

I say forget about voting NXT out of the treasury for at least a few more days and lets go back to setting up the committees themselves and the "paperwork" that defines the process we are about to embark upon..


Agreed, somehow I assumed the debates in progress had no actual executive power.

So first things first, what about opening a new spreadsheet where members volunteering/applying for the committees can enter their profile in a comment field? Then set polls.

Having made a general expression of dismay a few posts back, let me zoom in here a little.  Pin, I like you and we see eye to eye on a lot of things and I applaud your initative and these committees can probably use a Trail Boss and you might very well be the right person for that task. 

But I gotta call it like I see it.  And one guy who has not been voted in to be a leader just cannot make statements like "If no objection by tommorrow first project XYZ will receive 50K from the infrastructure unclaimed coins fund."  and "If no concensus committee has to vote" when the committee hasn't even had time to say boo to each other yet.  I haven't gotten involved yet because I thought we were still in some kind of phase where people were still putting their names in to APPLY for the committee. 

Somehow I missed the memo that we've got the tach redlined while we're screaming down the freeway of love in a pink Cadillac. 

So I'm gonna say two things and shut up.  I hereby vote no on every single infrastructure project until I see its details on a spreadsheet line.  And I'm gonna go off and create that spreadsheet right now.  I'll be back with the links.


The community must come to a concensus as to who is the person authorized to request the treasurers to make a spending transaction. Each treasurer should "take orders" from one person only, and ideally it should be a different person for each fund/treasurer.

NXTtechdevfund  GPG Key ID: 0x903BC112
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February 20, 2014, 04:07:39 AM
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I want to make one more point here as an official NXT treasurer.  Those NXT fund spreadsheets in my sig currently document THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS of assets.  This is with the NXT price apparently still being held down by a whale doing a slow selloff of his funds, with NXT still on the launchpad instead of blasting off for da moon.  In a matter of weeks or a few months we could literally be in control of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NXT.   This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE responsibility.  Disbursing these assets is not like peeling off a five out of your wallet at McDonalds.  There has got to be a CHAIN OF COMMAND.  The treasurer has got to receive clear, unambiguous, and documented authorization to disburse from a SPECIFIC DESIGNATED SPENDING AUTHORITY that everybody acknowledges. 

It's not as big a deal as making sure you've got Presidential authorization to turn that key in a nuke sub....but I'm treating it that way.  Would you rather have a treasurer who didn't?
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February 20, 2014, 04:08:33 AM
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Dev Response Requested

As I've mentioned prior, CoinPayments is working on adding Nxt to their offering. Please help me address this question:

"I've been working on NXT some more today and looking at this page
http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Handling_deposits it sounds like
transactions aren't really "safe" and can disappear until they get 720
confirms (~12 hours). Is that right?"

No, looks like what the page is saying iif "the timestamp and deadline values of a transaction" is correct,  you wouldn'y have to wait that long. 10 confirmation should be enough

Maybe I am mistaken, but that's what it looks like

NXT-GZYP-FMRT-FQ9K-3YQGS
https://nxtforum.org
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Last edit: February 20, 2014, 04:43:21 AM by CoinTropolis_JustaBitTime
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Charity Update 1:

We will receive plenty of complementary tickets for the event when we hit our $10k mark. Folks, with matching donations, we're already half way there.  I'm on a TV news station tomorrow to talk about Nxt and Songs of Love.

11:20am Thursday Feb 20 (US-Central -6:00 GMT)

http://www.kspr.com/video-photo/live


Charity Update 2:

"We want to make sure everyone knows that each child get their very own “song of love” on a CD that they can play anytime they are feeling down or in the middle of a scary and/or painful hospital procedure.

Thanks! " - John Beltzer, Founder of Songs of Love




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February 20, 2014, 04:25:04 AM
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Charity Update 1:

We will receive plenty of complentary tickets for the event when we hit our $10k mark. Folks, with matching donations, we're already half way there.  I'm on a TV news station tomorrow to talk about Nxt and Songs of Love.


Charity Update 2:

"We want to make sure everyone knows that each child get their very own “song of love” on a CD that they can play anytime they are feeling down or in the middle of a scary and/or painful hospital procedure.

Thanks! " - John Beltzer, Founder of Songs of Love


great work! can you pm me the donation address? i cant do it atm and it would save me hunting for it again later in this monstrosity of a thread lol id like to help.. i dont have much but its something.. Smiley


on another note... the place i normally buy bitcoin seems out of actoin for some reason.. i only want it to buy nxt.. :/ lol im wondering if anyone would be interested in selling me 100/150 euro worth of nxt? il do a sepa transfer first so you know im not scamming. i have no other way of buying coin at this moment.. :/ you can hold the coins until payment goes through if you like..  thanks and no harm if no one is willing to sell.


I'll be honest, I can't even wrap my mind around the pain and fear that some of the kids must feel. Because of people like you, their day is a bit better. Thank you.

1. Send your NXT payment to the following address which is controlled by Damelon:

4636321498642303120
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February 20, 2014, 04:26:36 AM
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I'm happy to announce that TwinWinNerD has just bought some of my lovely stickers.
Yay!
77 NXT for 5 stickers+postage, its a bargain.


Which made me think: Is this transaction the first time someone has purchased a physical item in exchange for NXT ?
I can't believe no-one has done it before us, but I don't remember seeing anything earlier on in this thread.


sorry, there were some video game sales a while back
Quick search mode.....aha:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464003.msg5127218#msg5127218
Punkrock selling keys for BF4.....does a video game key count? And did he get NXT for them?
I still claim TwinWinNerD and myself for the first physical item transaction......we need to figure this out for the NXT history books.


Yesterday seems so far away:
Nice one, apenzl. Many +1s.

I'm actually a luthier, and I make custom acoustic guitars that I would love to trade for nxt.

If there are any musicians in the community out there that would like a custom guitar, let me know. Making a Nxt themed guitar might be pretty fun.  Cheesy

Nxt:  NXT-5BHG-9VRE-QGW6-DRZVQ
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I want to make one more point here as an official NXT treasurer.  Those NXT fund spreadsheets in my sig currently document THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS of assets.  This is with the NXT price apparently still being held down by a whale doing a slow selloff of his funds, with NXT still on the launchpad instead of blasting off for da moon.  In a matter of weeks or a few months we could literally be in control of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NXT.   This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE responsibility.  Disbursing these assets is not like peeling off a five out of your wallet at McDonalds.  There has got to be a CHAIN OF COMMAND.  The treasurer has got to receive clear, unambiguous, and documented authorization to disburse from a SPECIFIC DESIGNATED SPENDING AUTHORITY that everybody acknowledges.  

It's not as big a deal as making sure you've got Presidential authorization to turn that key in a nuke sub....but I'm treating it that way.  Would you rather have a treasurer who didn't?


I want you to be as anal as possible. We're talking about the future of a movement.
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Charity Update 1:

We will receive plenty of complentary tickets for the event when we hit our $10k mark. Folks, with matching donations, we're already half way there.  I'm on a TV news station tomorrow to talk about Nxt and Songs of Love.


Charity Update 2:

"We want to make sure everyone knows that each child get their very own “song of love” on a CD that they can play anytime they are feeling down or in the middle of a scary and/or painful hospital procedure.

Thanks! " - John Beltzer, Founder of Songs of Love


great work! can you pm me the donation address? i cant do it atm and it would save me hunting for it again later in this monstrosity of a thread lol id like to help.. i dont have much but its something.. Smiley


on another note... the place i normally buy bitcoin seems out of actoin for some reason.. i only want it to buy nxt.. :/ lol im wondering if anyone would be interested in selling me 100/150 euro worth of nxt? il do a sepa transfer first so you know im not scamming. i have no other way of buying coin at this moment.. :/ you can hold the coins until payment goes through if you like..  thanks and no harm if no one is willing to sell.


I'll be honest, I can't even wrap my mind around the pain and fear that some of the kids must feel. Because of people like you, their day is a bit better. Thank you.

1. Send your NXT payment to the following address which is controlled by Damelon:

4636321498642303120


I can't agree more.. all of these donations are going to a great cause to help these kids through their difficult times.

Thank you to everyone that has donated so far and I urge everyone to give a little bit if they can, every Nxt counts!
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February 20, 2014, 04:47:21 AM
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I'm actually a luthier, and I make custom acoustic guitars that I would love to trade for nxt.

If there are any musicians in the community out there that would like a custom guitar, let me know. Making a Nxt themed guitar might be pretty fun.  Cheesy

Vol, I've been playing bass for almost 30 years now and have owned, off and on, some incredibly fine instruments... from pawn shop discoveries to custom ordered boutique offerings.

My one plan, if Nxt ever takes off... like $10+ territory -- is to order a custom acoustic for my studio. Now I know who to see. Smiley
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I want to make one more point here as an official NXT treasurer.  Those NXT fund spreadsheets in my sig currently document THREE QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS of assets.  This is with the NXT price apparently still being held down by a whale doing a slow selloff of his funds, with NXT still on the launchpad instead of blasting off for da moon.  In a matter of weeks or a few months we could literally be in control of MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF NXT.   This is a HUGE HUGE HUGE responsibility.  Disbursing these assets is not like peeling off a five out of your wallet at McDonalds.  There has got to be a CHAIN OF COMMAND.  The treasurer has got to receive clear, unambiguous, and documented authorization to disburse from a SPECIFIC DESIGNATED SPENDING AUTHORITY that everybody acknowledges. 

It's not as big a deal as making sure you've got Presidential authorization to turn that key in a nuke sub....but I'm treating it that way.  Would you rather have a treasurer who didn't?


I agree. In my mind NXT is already worth $1 or maybe more - it just isn't reflected in the market yet. And a cautious treasurer is a good treasurer.


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February 20, 2014, 04:56:31 AM
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I'm actually a luthier, and I make custom acoustic guitars that I would love to trade for nxt.

If there are any musicians in the community out there that would like a custom guitar, let me know. Making a Nxt themed guitar might be pretty fun.  Cheesy

Vol, I've been playing bass for almost 30 years now and have owned, off and on, some incredibly fine instruments... from pawn shop discoveries to custom ordered boutique offerings.

My one plan, if Nxt ever takes off... like $10+ territory -- is to order a custom acoustic for my studio. Now I know who to see. Smiley

I am a computer geek by trade but in my spare time I make long scale baritone guitars out of acoustic basses. I have been offering them for sale for BTC for a couple of years and now NXT for a couple of weeks but so far have only sold them for fiat.


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February 20, 2014, 05:07:20 AM
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I'm happy to announce that TwinWinNerD has just bought some of my lovely stickers.
Yay!
77 NXT for 5 stickers+postage, its a bargain.


Which made me think: Is this transaction the first time someone has purchased a physical item in exchange for NXT ?
I can't believe no-one has done it before us, but I don't remember seeing anything earlier on in this thread.

I remember reading jefdiesel runs a pizza restaurant? Why wasn't this our first purchase?

We could do it via AE: jef issues Base Regular, Base Large pizza etc. tokens, and Ham, Olives, Green Peppers, etc topping tokens and Thin Crust, Extra Cheese etc option tokens. A pizza-loving nxter customizes and picks up his Compound Pizza Token through the AE, sends jef an AM, and jef delivers.

The world's first pizza sold for crypto$ through an AE!

(Worldwide delivery within 60 mins, piping hot or a 2nd pizza free Grin)

We should have a mechanism for grouping option tokens like this.

I got pizza for you.. worldwide delivery, i dunno

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February 20, 2014, 05:08:09 AM
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I'm actually a luthier, and I make custom acoustic guitars that I would love to trade for nxt.

If there are any musicians in the community out there that would like a custom guitar, let me know. Making a Nxt themed guitar might be pretty fun.  Cheesy

Vol, I've been playing bass for almost 30 years now and have owned, off and on, some incredibly fine instruments... from pawn shop discoveries to custom ordered boutique offerings.

My one plan, if Nxt ever takes off... like $10+ territory -- is to order a custom acoustic for my studio. Now I know who to see. Smiley

Nice. Yeah, I was thinking about doing a bitcoin themed guitar 3-4 months ago before I found out about Nxt. I've got some cool ideas involving inlay and stuff that I could do, so yeah, I think I'll start making a Nxt themed one asap. I do it a bit more as hobby atm than a full time job so it would take me at least 3-4 months to make one, but I could start posting pictures of the progress for whoever is interested. I'm working on a couple of non-nxt themed guitars at the moment if anyone is interested too. I'll be offering them at a price that'll probably be similar to an middle-upper end Martin, so it will be a GOOD deal for a true handmade guitar.

Nxt:  NXT-5BHG-9VRE-QGW6-DRZVQ
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February 20, 2014, 05:13:32 AM
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how do i add a pic on this? just downloaded dotnxt client and a error message came up saying report this to the devs? took a screen shot of the message but i dont no how to add it in a msg here?



Instead of clicking post, click preview, and you will have more posting options, one of which is embedding an img url.

It's the button directly below the Italicize button.

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February 20, 2014, 05:17:25 AM
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how do i add a pic on this? just downloaded dotnxt client and a error message came up saying report this to the devs? took a screen shot of the message but i dont no how to add it in a msg here?



got the error again can some one please tell me how to add an image to this message please?Huh

Make sure the image is being hosted somewhere you can copy the url, like http.server.com/image.png

I use dropbox's public folder and it works well.
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February 20, 2014, 05:20:51 AM
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Whoops,

we just got pushed back to second place by Teslacoin

https://www.mintpal.com/voting
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