ChuckOne
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March 05, 2014, 04:03:15 PM |
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@Jean-Luc
Would it be possible to include wesleyh´s webclient in your releases instead of the webui we have now?
also good solution, than mistafreeze can just update his installer and we are done. I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it. |
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ChuckOne
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March 05, 2014, 04:04:11 PM |
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More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?
I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.
I told you so. Good, that you came to the same conclusion as I did. What do others think about? |
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alex0909
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March 05, 2014, 04:05:27 PM |
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Wow, we need to win this poll, come on NXTswarm! |
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sepehr
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March 05, 2014, 04:05:54 PM |
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Call for more java developers:
We need more developers to help work on the core! CFB is leaving in 1 month and we can't just have Jean-Luc do everything.
Is anyone here qualified to help? First possible feature that could be done, (talked about it with CFB), is adding a category field to Arbitrary Messages. This will allow us a lot of extra functionality, like decentralized stores, reputation system and so on. It should not be too hard to add this extra field. Is anyone up to the job? Unfortunately I do not know java myself. If others have suggestions for Nxt, please make Nxt improvement proposals. See here for more info: http://www.thenxtwiki.org/wiki/NIP:Nxt_Improvement_Proposals It appears the NIP process is not yet complete, we need a contact person or a simple method of allowing anyone to add NIP's. About NIP(Nxt_Improvement_Proposals) procedure, I think NXTtechdevfund Committee should decide. Correct me if I'm wrong! |
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ChuckOne
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March 05, 2014, 04:06:33 PM |
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I don't think we need pooled forging at all.
1. Pool doesn't change ROI in long run.
2. Comminity has strong opinion that fee must be no more than 0.1, so sooner or later ROI will fall in 10 time at least.
3. So small stakeholders will not get anything notable anyway.
4. So forging is not about money. We talk about that many times.
5. It's better to learn people how to setup node and register it on peerexplorer. And learn whales to support sponsoring in peerexplorer.
6. Forging is duty of service providers, so we just need to stand until there are many of it. We can snand with 500 nodes, I think. Nodes which active part of community will run anyway.
So it's better to program something useful and truly innovative.
We'll need pooled forging in the future when switch to 1000 tps mode. What for? |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 05, 2014, 04:07:00 PM |
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+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?
Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it? Didn't test it. |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 05, 2014, 04:07:59 PM |
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I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it.
Worst marketing idea ever  |
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mcjavar
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March 05, 2014, 04:08:28 PM |
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+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?
Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it? Didn't test it. It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte. |
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BitcoinForumator
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March 05, 2014, 04:09:03 PM |
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Remember those videos where a woman is choosing a man out of a bunch and kicking one after another by yelling "next!" (i'm pretty sure YouTube should have some). And then she finds the right one.
Well video making wizards, what if you made an ad for NXT of this nature? A spinoff where someone is choosing between crypto's and the chooser (woman or man) keeps yeeling "next" and nothing is good enough, while all along all this person wanted was NXT.
NXT (next) is such a great versatile word it would be a shame not to use it more in advertising.
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mcjavar
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March 05, 2014, 04:09:27 PM |
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I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it.
Worst marketing idea ever Why is the webui of wesleyh a bad idea? That could be the interface for the stanradr user. And for the other users there are other very cool clients that support messaging, AE and everything else one can need. |
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Fatih87SK
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March 05, 2014, 04:10:12 PM |
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Expect the question; How are we going to implement NXT at BTC38? Or have we learned from the past and made an instruction? Whoever is our Chinese rep for NXT(I believe we have one right?) should work with opticalc or someone along those lines to help btc38 implement it if it comes to that. Alright. We shouldn't let this be the second Mintpal disaster. I think we will win this vote, so we have to prepare ourselves. BTC38 is very important. |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 05, 2014, 04:10:47 PM |
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More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?
I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.
Instead of leasing forge power or Pooled Forging , you commit with your account to share fees among others in the same "share fee group" if you forge a node. You still try to forge a block on your own, but you commit to share the incentive with others if you are successful (with special conditions like committing to run the node for some time, ...). TEXT Why do you always overwhelm the community with so much text? And why do you post my text I don't get your idea, or I get it. I don't know.
Instead of leasing forge power, you commit with your account to share fees among others in the same "share fee group" if you forge a node. You still try to forge a block on your own, but you commit to share the incentive with others if you are successful (with special conditions like committing to run the node for some time, ...). Could this be done with AT and would that make sense?
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bitcoinpaul
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March 05, 2014, 04:12:00 PM |
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+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?
Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it? Didn't test it. It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte. Is this only Win? |
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mcjavar
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March 05, 2014, 04:12:11 PM |
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Expect the question; How are we going to implement NXT at BTC38? Or have we learned from the past and made an instruction? Whoever is our Chinese rep for NXT(I believe we have one right?) should work with opticalc or someone along those lines to help btc38 implement it if it comes to that. Alright. We shouldn't let this be the second Mintpal disaster. I think we will win this vote, so we have to prepare ourselves. BTC38 is very important. optical and wesleyh told earlier that they would be able to help. They can contact us on IRC too. |
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ImmortAlex
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March 05, 2014, 04:13:04 PM |
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We'll need pooled forging in the future when switch to 1000 tps mode.
What for? Seems like I understand idea of PF wrong... |
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mcjavar
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March 05, 2014, 04:13:09 PM |
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+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?
Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it? Didn't test it. It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte. Is this only Win? Yes. Please check it out: https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1902.0.html |
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bitcoinpaul
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March 05, 2014, 04:13:13 PM |
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I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it.
Worst marketing idea ever Why is the webui of wesleyh a bad idea? That could be the interface for the stanradr user. And for the other users there are other very cool clients that support messaging, AE and everything else one can need. It seems I didn't understand chuckone. I thought he wanted to keep the old one... |
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Mistafreeze
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March 05, 2014, 04:14:08 PM |
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+1 for Wesleys as standard. But this one click installation - is this open source and necessary?
Yes, it is open source. Yes it is necessary for the ordinary user. Why don´t you like it? Didn't test it. It looks very sexy and is very easy. It installt everythinbg for you and opens up the webui. Very cool stuff. And it is only 0.5Mbyte. Is this only Win? Yes. |
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mcjavar
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March 05, 2014, 04:14:43 PM |
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I would like to stick to the webui. I somehow like it.
Worst marketing idea ever Why is the webui of wesleyh a bad idea? That could be the interface for the stanradr user. And for the other users there are other very cool clients that support messaging, AE and everything else one can need. It seems I didn't understand chuckone. I thought he wanted to keep the old one... Or maybe I misunderstood him. Anyway, the old ui must go, and we already have a new one  |
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