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March 05, 2014, 10:13:12 PM
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Does this make sense to anyone and does anyone have any ideas about how we arrive at one website and one simple client.

Problem solved re: a simple client: https://wallet.mynxt.info

As for one website: right now it's www.nxtcrypto.org.  But the truth is that Nxt is decentralized and you CANNOT force ANYONE to adhere to one of anything.

I admin the Nxt Wiki at http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/ Please support my work by donating to Nxt account #1234567740944417915
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March 05, 2014, 10:14:56 PM
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Does this make sense to anyone and does anyone have any ideas about how we arrive at one website and one simple client.

Problem solved re: a simple client: https://wallet.mynxt.info

As for one website: right now it's www.nxtcrypto.org.  But the truth is that Nxt is decentralized and you CANNOT force ANYONE to adhere to one of anything.

Anyone can also simply put my web wallet online. Well, they'll have to wait until there's client side encryption, but when that is done, can be used without issue. Even simpler, simply download the HTML folder, open index.html and connect to any public node there is. (Again, when client side encryption is completed). No exe needed.. but of course then you don't have java server local. Good enough for newbies though!
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March 05, 2014, 10:15:07 PM
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J-L,

 - please tell us when that bug in AE will be fixed?

 - can we integrate AE 13th march?






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March 05, 2014, 10:15:27 PM
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I really do not understand where the problem lies? The whales could easily support two developers FULLTIME to finish a client within a month.

really?

Really.

Fulltime means they have plenty of time. NXT only have a limit amount of features:

Accounts
Balance + Transactions
Aliases
Voting System
Asset Exchange

Beyond that are mere statistical goodies:
blockchain explorer
peers

API calls are pretty simple and easy to use. The returned JSON can easily be parsed and evaluated.

The only heavily load (and that's intrinsic to native clients) is the GUI.

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Might not reflect the most optimal solution for NXT.
I like the web client extended, but that's probably mainly due to my Web affinity.
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March 05, 2014, 10:16:49 PM
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J-L,

 - please tell us when that bug in AE will be fixed?

 - can we integrate AE 13th march?







That's just a known bug, there may be other bugs. l8orre mentioned some things, not sure if jean-luc has checked into that. Also waiting for jl777 test of the asset exchange. All users should test it themselves also.
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March 05, 2014, 10:16:52 PM
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What about the new high-level/low-level API? Is there some coming until April?

I'm not planning to implement it.
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March 05, 2014, 10:18:45 PM
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Anyone can also simply put my web wallet online. Well, they'll have to wait until there's client side encryption, but when that is done, can be used without issue. Even simpler, simply download the HTML folder, open index.html and connect to any public node there is. (Again, when client side encryption is completed). No exe needed.. but of course then you don't have java server local. Good enough for newbies though!

when is this going to happen?
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March 05, 2014, 10:20:16 PM
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how do we know you actualy delivered what BCNext has paid for is better formulated.

how do we know you did all what he asked? Grin

U can't know that. But... I recall that u said that I am BCNext, so if I paid myself for doing something then I could change the agreement any way I wish, coz both the parties would agree on that.  Cheesy
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March 05, 2014, 10:20:52 PM
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Test net nodes: please update to 0.8.6, and delete your old blockchain.

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March 05, 2014, 10:21:22 PM
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To whoever runs the PM list, Please take my name off the spam list, thank you
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March 05, 2014, 10:21:47 PM
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Anyone can also simply put my web wallet online. Well, they'll have to wait until there's client side encryption, but when that is done, can be used without issue. Even simpler, simply download the HTML folder, open index.html and connect to any public node there is. (Again, when client side encryption is completed). No exe needed.. but of course then you don't have java server local. Good enough for newbies though!

when is this going to happen?

I got some code from BloodyRookie to do client side encryption, but I haven't yet looked into it deeply. I was going to contact Zahlen and a few other people to help, just didn't find the time to do that. Also, I may perhaps have to wait for CFB until he makes his prepareTransaction API call available, as that would make it easier.

I hope that this API returns error messages in case there is a mistake, and raw bytes if there aren't. Then when returned those bytes would have to be signed by the password and this can be broadcasted out.

It's also possible to do this without prepareTransaction, but that's going to create a lot of duplicate code and client side error checking is required, so I'm not sure if that's a good solution.. I think it's best to wait for the prepareTransaction API. (This api takes all parameters except the user password).
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March 05, 2014, 10:23:25 PM
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New version of my web interface available for download: http://nxtra.org/nxt-client/dev.zip

I haven't change the interface at http://nxtra.org/nxt-client yet though, will do that tomorrow.

Anyway, I haven't pushed this to bitbucket yet because I need to fix a few more bugs. If anyone is willing to test, place the unzipped files in nxt/html/tools/dev

Then connect to testnet (by editing nxt-default.properties) and try everything out.

It now comes with skin abilities, I made this when testnet was down, obviously not a high priority, but still.. Eventually it will be possible to customize the boxes, background, and tables as well.

For now, just the sidebar and header are customizable. There's a bug though if you go to settings and try to customize default sidebar/header it won't work. Will fix that tomorrow.

Again, test on TESTNET.

Donations are appreciated at 8189784314684138350 - thank you!







I might have been blind for days now. But this is great!!!! I should get some sleep.
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March 05, 2014, 10:24:22 PM
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Does this make sense to anyone and does anyone have any ideas about how we arrive at one website and one simple client.

Problem solved re: a simple client: https://wallet.mynxt.info

As for one website: right now it's www.nxtcrypto.org.  But the truth is that Nxt is decentralized and you CANNOT force ANYONE to adhere to one of anything.

Anyone can also simply put my web wallet online. Well, they'll have to wait until there's client side encryption, but when that is done, can be used without issue. Even simpler, simply download the HTML folder, open index.html and connect to any public node there is. (Again, when client side encryption is completed). No exe needed.. but of course then you don't have java server local. Good enough for newbies though!

No, all too fancy and complicated too soon. The online idea is great but there isn't enough trust built up yet in NXT.
Lets just get Wesleyh's client up and running as the primary client and go from there.

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March 05, 2014, 10:25:11 PM
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The time the orders were placed should determine the price at which the deal is made, not part of a hash. That's why is was asking about the algorithm.

Order X is placed earlier than order Y if X has more confirmations than Y. When they have the same number of confirmations then their ids define the order.

Time doesn't matter at all.
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Last edit: March 05, 2014, 10:39:03 PM by jl777
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Test net nodes: please update to 0.8.6, and delete your old blockchain.
OK, starting to upgrade 209.126.* and 162.217.*

James

Edit: I think I got all 180 of them. If anybody sees one of my servers not upgraded, please let me know the IP

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March 05, 2014, 10:29:53 PM
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how do we know you actualy delivered what BCNext has paid for is better formulated.

how do we know you did all what he asked? Grin

U can't know that. But... I recall that u said that I am BCNext, so if I paid myself for doing something then I could change the agreement any way I wish, coz both the parties would agree on that.  Cheesy

not necessarily.  how sane are you?
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March 05, 2014, 10:30:01 PM
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Release 0.8.6

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.8.6.zip

sha256: ecdce17e2d1cd704fce3b7e40d458c1c8b80a1cf064eb8f4f5e7f6593166dba8

Wesleyh, when will the Mac client support 0.8.x? I'm still at 0.7.5.



Friday, I'm away tomorrow afternoon, but friday this will be my priority. Sorry for the delay, been working on the web interface non-stop..

Understood. That's what I assumed. It really is a great client, which is why I'm anxious to upgrade. Smiley
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March 05, 2014, 10:30:23 PM
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I think a better method would be to globally limit amount of forging power as a variable figure based on the target of the current block or that and some other factors.  This would allow us to optimally maximize the use of forging power while protecting the network from letting 1 group, either pooled or a single account, get too large for any network target condition at any particular time.  It should work on a first come first served basis such that only the first group of users declared in the blockchain as having their forging power in the leased pool to have their funds used in the pool, and that other users beyond that amount defined by current target would temporarily have their entire balances not part of the pool's forging power if the target is too high, and when target lowers enough, they get put back in.

I believe this should all be possible to be validated on the blockchain by the entire network.

This method would put the onus of responsibility for maximization of pooled forging power on the ACCOUNT OWNERS.  They would have to think about which pool is best for their particular balance if they wanted maximization.


Now Im not quite sure I really understand forging, or target, etc.  If I did then I would complete the white paper.  But my point would be that at 100% target, then almos all NXT is forging, right?  at 400% then only 1/4 of all NXT is forging, right?  If thats the case then my idea for limiting forging is to prevent someone from taking control of the network.

But I could be way off here.  Can someone correct me if Im wrong?  (I still dont quite understand what it means when target is under 100% because its just impossible for 150% of all NXT to be forging.  So I kind of think then a target of 50% mean that maybe 100% of all NXT was forging but the block came 30 secs after the previous block,  or maybe 50% of all NXT was forging, and the block came after only 15 secs of the previous block?  Is that about right?

Like I said, my idea up there could be completely unfeasable; but it would be good I think to have the network to simply not allow some large pool to take over.  Can someone smarter than me tell me if Im out in the weeds?
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March 05, 2014, 10:31:19 PM
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how do we know you actualy delivered what BCNext has paid for is better formulated.

how do we know you did all what he asked? Grin

U can't know that. But... I recall that u said that I am BCNext, so if I paid myself for doing something then I could change the agreement any way I wish, coz both the parties would agree on that.  Cheesy

not necessarily.  how sane are you?

with or without his pills? Cheesy

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March 05, 2014, 10:32:07 PM
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how do we know you actualy delivered what BCNext has paid for is better formulated.

how do we know you did all what he asked? Grin

U can't know that. But... I recall that u said that I am BCNext, so if I paid myself for doing something then I could change the agreement any way I wish, coz both the parties would agree on that.  Cheesy

CFB, are you the only one communicating with BCNext? Who will be in touch with him when you depart in 3 1/2 weeks?
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