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[verymuchso]

I did my research on random string generator libraries, it seems apache RandomStringUtils is not compromised.

Why aren't you using SecureRandom random = new SecureRandom()?

Simpler version from web

char[] allowedCharacters = {'a','b','c','1','2','3','4'};

SecureRandom random = new SecureRandom();
StringBuffer password = new StringBuffer();

for(int i = 0; i < PASSWORD_LENGTH; i++) {
    password.append(allowedCharacters[ random.nextInt(allowedCharacters.length) ]);
}

I don't believe I know better than the people from Apache who made that library.
That library is used in 1000s of production systems. You should not reinvent the wheel.

You are right about the difference between SecureRandom and Random, in the code I posted it does however not make sense to use SercureRandom. If you believe it does please explain why it does make sense in the code I posted.

http://www.docjar.com/html/api/org/apache/commons/lang/RandomStringUtils.java.html

They use java.util.Random

Where do you see SercureRandom used by RandomStringUtils?

I did not say they used SecureRandom in RandomStringUtils. What I did was look for ways to generate the safest possible passphrases and RandomStringUtils was mentioned and seemed to be used the most. It comes as a surprise that they do not use SecureRandom, if this in fact is unsecure this would mean that numerous production systems are at risk, which might even be the case who knows.

You started your argument by saying Random should not be used, since Random was used in the piece of code I posted I assumed you were talking about the random number between 70 and 90 for the password length, for which it makes no sense to use SecureRandom.

I do believe Apache should use SecureRandom. Looking at my code I also believe the seed string of characters used should not be a fixed string, it should be random as should your 'allowedCharacters' variable in the sample you posted.

The site where you can generate a passphrase with your mouse is really cool, it does however not work for people without a mouse.

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[Jean-Luc]

Of course I hope the apache RandomStringUtils internally uses SecureRandom, this is where it would matter.

It doesn't

http://www.docjar.com/html/api/org/apache/commons/lang/RandomStringUtils.java.html

You are right. Maybe he should directly call the method that also takes a Random as a parameter, and pass it his own instance of a SecureRandom.

[martismartis]

Could somebody sent TestNxt to the  ....

- if someone needs testNXTs - ask them here: https://forums.nxtcrypto.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=832&p=4237#p4237

Hi, I'm not registered in forums.nxtcrypto.org , here is my church, where I get all information I need Still need some test NXT to 13965125640011039998

[igmaca]

If you´ve read my PM, I am trying to help you build a core dev team...

Yes, I need to think about how this should be done. Before the source was public, the problem was how to decide who is trustworthy. Now that it is open, how do we decide who is good enough?

Companies conduct technical interviews. Those will filter out the completely ignorant, but for more experienced people it becomes difficult to judge who is better. I am also not confident in my own skills as an interviewer, and also some good people perform bad at interviews because of the stress and pressure to perform. Especially for an open source project, I don't feel doing interviews is the right approach.

For paid developers, we could consider trial projects, which they would do on their own fork of the repository, and if at the end we like the code and integrate it into the main repository, we accept them as paid developers. This would mean they would have to spend a few weeks without pay at first. Or, we can take the risk and do it as a one month paid contract, with the option of making it permanent. This would be something the NXTtechdevfund committee should discuss.

I would need to research how other open source projects decide who to accept and trust, e.g. how the linux kernel development is organized, and see if we can adopt their project management practices.

In terms of skill set, being a very good Java developer is the only requirement. The code does not depend strongly on any specific tool or library. We use a database, so some familiarity with relational database and SQL is needed, but there are enough areas of the code one can work on without touching the database at first. We also use servlets and Jetty, so again familiarity with servlets and the http protocol would be helpful, but most Java developers already have that.

Good object-oriented design skills are essential. So is writing clean and maintainable code. For developers with main background in languages other than Java, I can tell immediately that Java is not their native language - I have seen lots of Java code that reads like C. The original BCNext code was very foreign too, so I had to rewrite lots of it. So for somebody coming from C/C++ background, if this is going to be their first Java project, they would need to learn a lot, so that the code they add actually reads like Java.

In addition to Java developers, and in fact much more urgently, we need a good cryptographer. This person doesn't even need to be that fluent in Java, the language background wouldn't matter (well, he should at least be able to read and understand the Java code). But I don't have much cryptography background myself, so this is an area where we currently lack skills, especially after the departure of BCNext.

Thank you very much for your detailed answer!

"For paid developers, we could consider trial projects, which they would do on their own fork of the repository, and if at the end we like the code and integrate it into the main repository, we accept them as paid developers. This would mean they would have to spend a few weeks without pay at first. Or, we can take the risk and do it as a one month paid contract, with the option of making it permanent. This would be something the NXTtechdevfund committee should discuss.

I would need to research how other open source projects decide who to accept and trust, e.g. how the linux kernel development is organized, and see if we can adopt their project management practices."

Give the applicant a real life scenario to work on. Something that has to be done for Nxt. A small part of a bigger task. So you can assess if he/she is good enough to be in the core dev team.

"In addition to Java developers, and in fact much more urgently, we need a good cryptographer."

Is that the same msin is working on with the review of the code? Or we need a cryptographer in our core dev team? Do you (or anyone else) have a suggestion whom we should approach?

I would be happy to come up with test Java projects for someone else to do

I could pay some amount of NXT upfront to reduce the risk for the new applicant, as long as we have reason to believe that he can do the job. Then I will need the Techcommittee to deal with any permanent arrangements and completion bounties.

Probably a good idea to have a good cryptographer on retainer or at least halftime. If the community can provide adequate testing, then that frees up more funds to pay the cryptographer. I dont think it has to be a big name guy, as long as he can do the crypto math competently, that is the key. Someone who can actually understand stuff like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=277389.0

James

I think in the forum of keepass you can get to locate a good cryptographer
http://sourceforge.net/p/keepass/discussion/329220/

[landomata]

Give the applicant a real life scenario to work on. Something that has to be done for Nxt. A small part of a bigger task. So you can assess if he/she is good enough to be in the core dev team.

"In addition to Java developers, and in fact much more urgently, we need a good cryptographer."

Is that the same msin is working on with the review of the code? Or we need a cryptographer in our core dev team? Do you (or anyone else) have a suggestion whom we should approach?

The Nxt Mobile Applications Company will pay 100,000 Nxt to the Java Dev who successfully implements SERVICE PROVIDER FEATURE into Nxt.

If he is successful then he can become a part of the Dev team.

So to repeat we will pay the bounty for this real life project.

[Jean-Luc]

Give the applicant a real life scenario to work on. Something that has to be done for Nxt. A small part of a bigger task. So you can assess if he/she is good enough to be in the core dev team.

Realistically, somebody faced with unfamiliar code cannot just jump in and start adding features. Even if he succeeds in doing it, it will look like a patch, an if/else hack, because he would be missing the big picture at first.

In a real company, a new programmer usually starts by just fixing bugs, for a week or two. Then, maybe start working on a feature that has already been designed and some skeletal work has been done on it. Or is very similar to an existing feature so that he can copy and follow the same design pattern (e.g., add a new transaction type which fits in the existing transaction types framework and doesn't need changing it). One would need at least a month of experience, getting familiar with the code, before being able to design and add a new feature all by himself.

"In addition to Java developers, and in fact much more urgently, we need a good cryptographer."

Is that the same msin is working on with the review of the code? Or we need a cryptographer in our core dev team? Do you (or anyone else) have a suggestion whom we should approach?

I don't think that guy had time to actively contribute to Nxt all the time. We don't really need a 100% full time cryptographer, but somebody who we can consult with regularly, and who can stay reasonably up to date with the current state of Nxt. Most of the time we don't need to make changes that require consulting a cryptographer, but when we do, we need to have somebody to refer to. Like, when considering changing the TF algorithm, or when deciding if there is any risk in accepting the proposed fix for the signature verification failing.

[farl4web]

My practical proposal: why not to split this thread in different threads? One for the technical/developers, one for the marketing, one for the newbie, etc.?

Or maybe there are already some different channels? (in this case, please point out where)

There are a few other threads, but this is the huge chaotic and popular thread! 
You also join: http://www.nxtforum.org.

[martismartis]

Jean-Luc

How to get rid off of unconfirmed transaction, staying here for a long time? http://217.17.88.5:7875/
Did refresh also restarted node, nothing helps. Do I need to reload blockchain from scratch?

[LiQio]

... We don't really need a 100% full time cryptographer, but somebody who we can consult with regularly, and who can stay reasonably up to date with the current state of Nxt. Most of the time we don't need to make changes that require consulting a cryptographer, but when we do, we need to have somebody to refer to. Like, when considering changing the TF algorithm, or when deciding if there is any risk in accepting the proposed fix for the signature verification failing.

What about DoctorEvil?

And while asking questions, do we know more about the crypto-review - msin? mcjavar? could lead to a possible candidate, couldn't it?

[Jean-Luc]

What are all these

Code:

[2014-03-06 02:30:59.520] DEBUG: Blacklisting 162.217.203.172 because of: Signature verification failed
[2014-03-06 02:31:02.545] DEBUG: Blacklisting 162.217.203.150 because of: Signature verification failed
[2014-03-06 02:31:06.698] DEBUG: Blacklisting 162.217.202.154 because of: Signature verification failed
[2014-03-06 02:31:10.839] DEBUG: Blacklisting 162.217.203.28 because of: Signature verification failed
[2014-03-06 02:31:17.579] DEBUG: Blacklisting 162.217.202.172 because of: Signature verification failed
[2014-03-06 02:31:22.727] DEBUG: Blacklisting 162.217.204.40 because of: Signature verification failed

on testnet ?

This is why we had to reset the test blockchain. Because of the bugs in AE balances, a block must have been generated by an account that didn't have enough balance, when calculated correctly, so the 0.8.6 nodes started rejecting this block.

And very many

Code:

[2014-03-06 02:38:36.204] DEBUG: Dropping invalid transaction
nxt.NxtException$ValidationException: Asset aaab already exists

Why this "aaab" thing is repeating? 
I see "AAAb" asset, is somebody constatnly trying to register "aaab" and fails or is "aaab" somehow stuck in blockchain?

Those are harmless, the unconfirmed transactions are stuck in the unconfirmed transactions pool of still active 0.8.5 nodes. They will eventually expire. 0.8.6 nodes should drop such transactions from their unconfirmed transactions pools, if this continues to happen even after we have no more 0.8.5 nodes on test net, I will look into it again.

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Secretary
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P.S:
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This allocation will be totally sold on the Nxt Asset Exchange.  The shares will be sold on AE launch day.

Hi! Everyone!
I've compared the shareholder list on Mar 1st and the list above. There's something interesting in the two list.
Here is the final namelist:
pandaisftw
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


And the list on Mar 1st below:
pandaisftw
danniego
Kbk00
abctc
cromaclear
neer.g
UtopianFuture
benowl
Hash
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
Ezravdb
okaynow
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
pt2002
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames
Arafel71
4iribasik
lingdu22
qbd1313
Leetrump
Kisa
Achim
Crtcl
Yanlap
fgbnbb
Perado
Chinabreak123
xzhybbs
Tercel
Robinf
fnjing21t
Ziggy
Miramare
gmoneycoin
oldnbold
Hala
dimirfu

[igmaca]

If you´ve read my PM, I am trying to help you build a core dev team...

Yes, I need to think about how this should be done. Before the source was public, the problem was how to decide who is trustworthy. Now that it is open, how do we decide who is good enough?

Companies conduct technical interviews. Those will filter out the completely ignorant, but for more experienced people it becomes difficult to judge who is better. I am also not confident in my own skills as an interviewer, and also some good people perform bad at interviews because of the stress and pressure to perform. Especially for an open source project, I don't feel doing interviews is the right approach.

For paid developers, we could consider trial projects, which they would do on their own fork of the repository, and if at the end we like the code and integrate it into the main repository, we accept them as paid developers. This would mean they would have to spend a few weeks without pay at first. Or, we can take the risk and do it as a one month paid contract, with the option of making it permanent. This would be something the NXTtechdevfund committee should discuss.

I would need to research how other open source projects decide who to accept and trust, e.g. how the linux kernel development is organized, and see if we can adopt their project management practices.

In terms of skill set, being a very good Java developer is the only requirement. The code does not depend strongly on any specific tool or library. We use a database, so some familiarity with relational database and SQL is needed, but there are enough areas of the code one can work on without touching the database at first. We also use servlets and Jetty, so again familiarity with servlets and the http protocol would be helpful, but most Java developers already have that.

Good object-oriented design skills are essential. So is writing clean and maintainable code. For developers with main background in languages other than Java, I can tell immediately that Java is not their native language - I have seen lots of Java code that reads like C. The original BCNext code was very foreign too, so I had to rewrite lots of it. So for somebody coming from C/C++ background, if this is going to be their first Java project, they would need to learn a lot, so that the code they add actually reads like Java.

In addition to Java developers, and in fact much more urgently, we need a good cryptographer. This person doesn't even need to be that fluent in Java, the language background wouldn't matter (well, he should at least be able to read and understand the Java code). But I don't have much cryptography background myself, so this is an area where we currently lack skills, especially after the departure of BCNext.

Thank you very much for your detailed answer!

"For paid developers, we could consider trial projects, which they would do on their own fork of the repository, and if at the end we like the code and integrate it into the main repository, we accept them as paid developers. This would mean they would have to spend a few weeks without pay at first. Or, we can take the risk and do it as a one month paid contract, with the option of making it permanent. This would be something the NXTtechdevfund committee should discuss.

I would need to research how other open source projects decide who to accept and trust, e.g. how the linux kernel development is organized, and see if we can adopt their project management practices."

Give the applicant a real life scenario to work on. Something that has to be done for Nxt. A small part of a bigger task. So you can assess if he/she is good enough to be in the core dev team.

"In addition to Java developers, and in fact much more urgently, we need a good cryptographer."

Is that the same msin is working on with the review of the code? Or we need a cryptographer in our core dev team? Do you (or anyone else) have a suggestion whom we should approach?

I think in the forum of keepass you can get to locate a good cryptographer
http://sourceforge.net/p/keepass/discussion/329220/

and perhaps here java developers

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[robinf]

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pandaisftw  
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
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shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
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Chanc3r
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NOTE:
1) If you are in the above list please PM me your account number where you want the shares transferred to.

2) When I receive your PM I will reply with your confirmed shares.

3) If I do NOT receive a PM from you before Friday, March 14th, then your share allocation will be forfeited to the next waiting person on the list.

3) PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST & MENTION YOUR ACCOUNT NO. IN THIS THREAD AS IT WILL NOT COUNT.  IF THIS IS DONE TWICE I WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE LIST.

SO PLEASE ONLY PM me....thanks.




Best regards,
Landomata
Secretary
Nxt Mobile Applications Company

P.S:
3rd Tier: 25 million shares

This allocation will be totally sold on the Nxt Asset Exchange.  The shares will be sold on AE launch day.

Hi! Everyone!
I've compared the shareholder list on Mar 1st and the list above. There's something interesting in the two list.
Here is the final namelist:
pandaisftw
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


And the list on Mar 1st below:
pandaisftw
danniego
Kbk00
abctc
cromaclear
neer.g
UtopianFuture
benowl
Hash
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
Ezravdb
okaynow
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
pt2002
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames
Arafel71
4iribasik
lingdu22
qbd1313
Leetrump
Kisa
Achim
Crtcl
Yanlap
fgbnbb
Perado
Chinabreak123
xzhybbs
Tercel
Robinf
fnjing21t
Ziggy
Miramare
gmoneycoin
oldnbold
Hala
dimirfu

What is the mode the list of the screening? Why can literally change?

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I8orre
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Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


NOTE:
1) If you are in the above list please PM me your account number where you want the shares transferred to.

2) When I receive your PM I will reply with your confirmed shares.

3) If I do NOT receive a PM from you before Friday, March 14th, then your share allocation will be forfeited to the next waiting person on the list.

3) PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST & MENTION YOUR ACCOUNT NO. IN THIS THREAD AS IT WILL NOT COUNT.  IF THIS IS DONE TWICE I WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE LIST.

SO PLEASE ONLY PM me....thanks.




Best regards,
Landomata
Secretary
Nxt Mobile Applications Company

P.S:
3rd Tier: 25 million shares

This allocation will be totally sold on the Nxt Asset Exchange.  The shares will be sold on AE launch day.

Hi! Everyone!
I've compared the shareholder list on Mar 1st and the list above. There's something interesting in the two list.
Here is the final namelist:
pandaisftw
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


And the list on Mar 1st below:
pandaisftw
danniego
Kbk00
abctc
cromaclear
neer.g
UtopianFuture
benowl
Hash
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
Ezravdb
okaynow
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
pt2002
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames
Arafel71
4iribasik
lingdu22
qbd1313
Leetrump
Kisa
Achim
Crtcl
Yanlap
fgbnbb
Perado
Chinabreak123
xzhybbs
Tercel
Robinf
fnjing21t
Ziggy
Miramare
gmoneycoin
oldnbold
Hala
dimirfu

+1

[hala]

pandaisftw  
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames

  Ok , I find many friends includes me are not in the final list accroding to your last post. Why, could you give us explaination. I am very very

 confused.  However, I find some new name in this list. Why ?  I am not angry, I just want a answer. It is fair ?

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pandaisftw  
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


NOTE:
1) If you are in the above list please PM me your account number where you want the shares transferred to.

2) When I receive your PM I will reply with your confirmed shares.

3) If I do NOT receive a PM from you before Friday, March 14th, then your share allocation will be forfeited to the next waiting person on the list.

3) PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST & MENTION YOUR ACCOUNT NO. IN THIS THREAD AS IT WILL NOT COUNT.  IF THIS IS DONE TWICE I WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE LIST.

SO PLEASE ONLY PM me....thanks.




Best regards,
Landomata
Secretary
Nxt Mobile Applications Company

P.S:
3rd Tier: 25 million shares

This allocation will be totally sold on the Nxt Asset Exchange.  The shares will be sold on AE launch day.

Hi! Everyone!
I've compared the shareholder list on Mar 1st and the list above. There's something interesting in the two list.
Here is the final namelist:
pandaisftw
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


And the list on Mar 1st below:
pandaisftw
danniego
Kbk00
abctc
cromaclear
neer.g
UtopianFuture
benowl
Hash
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
Ezravdb
okaynow
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
pt2002
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames
Arafel71
4iribasik
lingdu22
qbd1313
Leetrump
Kisa
Achim
Crtcl
Yanlap
fgbnbb
Perado
Chinabreak123
xzhybbs
Tercel
Robinf
fnjing21t
Ziggy
Miramare
gmoneycoin
oldnbold
Hala
dimirfu

oh, I  notice it justnow！！！！ maybe landomata should  give one Reasonable Explanation！！！ don't want to see give nxt discredit!

[landomata]

Here is the final namelist:
pandaisftw
abctc
I8orre   -- SHOWED INTEREST ON JANUARY 9 (I forgot to include his name in the first two list.)
Jef-Diesel -- SHOWED INTEREST ON JANUARY 9 (I forgot to include his name in the first two list.)
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier  -- SHOWED INTEREST from early February
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


All other names below Rickyjames are still on my main list if someone above Rickyjames pulls out then Arafel71 is next in line and so on down the list.

[hala]

ANNOUNCEMENT

NMAC PRIVATE SHARE PLACEMENT

FINAL SHARE ALLOCATION LIST

pandaisftw  
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


NOTE:
1) If you are in the above list please PM me your account number where you want the shares transferred to.

2) When I receive your PM I will reply with your confirmed shares.

3) If I do NOT receive a PM from you before Friday, March 14th, then your share allocation will be forfeited to the next waiting person on the list.

3) PLEASE DO NOT QUOTE THIS POST & MENTION YOUR ACCOUNT NO. IN THIS THREAD AS IT WILL NOT COUNT.  IF THIS IS DONE TWICE I WILL REMOVE YOU FROM THE LIST.

SO PLEASE ONLY PM me....thanks.




Best regards,
Landomata
Secretary
Nxt Mobile Applications Company

P.S:
3rd Tier: 25 million shares

This allocation will be totally sold on the Nxt Asset Exchange.  The shares will be sold on AE launch day.

Hi! Everyone!
I've compared the shareholder list on Mar 1st and the list above. There's something interesting in the two list.
Here is the final namelist:
pandaisftw
abctc
I8orre
Jef-Diesel
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
Opticarrier
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames


And the list on Mar 1st below:
pandaisftw
danniego
Kbk00
abctc
cromaclear
neer.g
UtopianFuture
benowl
Hash
butterclown
eXtatiC
Shin
swartzfeger
Ezravdb
okaynow
LemonAndFries
Allwelder
kodtycoon
smaragda
eB101
Damelon
KyLins
rushi
shenjie
voldemort628
redsn0w
pt2002
stoneone
bezbezbez
xcn
sashsh
Igmaca
Chanc3r
Vega
Rickyjames
Arafel71
4iribasik
lingdu22
qbd1313
Leetrump
Kisa
Achim
Crtcl
Yanlap
fgbnbb
Perado
Chinabreak123
xzhybbs
Tercel
Robinf
fnjing21t
Ziggy
Miramare
gmoneycoin
oldnbold
Hala
dimirfu

+1

  +1 . It is fair ?  

  You cheat all of us who are red font marked

  Will the NMAC success in future ? I dont know ? Anybody can answer me .

[landomata]

  +1 . It is fair ?  

  You cheat most of us who are red font marked

All other names below Rickyjames are still on my main list if someone above Rickyjames pulls out then Arafel71 is next in line and so on down the list.

EDIT: The names in RED above Rickyjames did not send me there PLEDGES by the MARCH 6th Deadlines.

[qbd1313]

  +1 . It is fair ?  

  You cheat most of us who are red font marked

All other names below Rickyjames are still on my main list if someone above Rickyjames pulls out then Arafel71 is next in line and so on down the list.

Unable to find member 'i8orre'.

I think its a big joke.