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March 05, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
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I wish we had something like this

https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

Separated between "mobile", "desktop" and "web" clients along with recommended "easy" install clients all located on the home website of the crypto(bitcoin). Could add things like Requires Java or not too.

We could always say for now "recommended for beginning users" and then link to whatever client we decide on.

 When I started to look at bitcoin the reason I didn't give up right away was because that website gives everything so simple and easy to understand basically anyone would be able to understand how to start bitcoin up. I chose multibit when I first started because it said easy to use... Tongue as a new user I didn't even know how to get Bitcoin let alone hold it somewhere. Didn't hear of Coinbase, etc. till I read a forum, didn't hear of any of these wallets till I read the main Bitcoin site. K.I.S.S.

This is a very good idea, I think.

We have different clients available for different type of users. We have the website nxtclient.org. Who is the owner of the site? We just need to offer a more structured overview of our clients.

Absolutely. My site is shit for a newcomer. I will think about it and change the structure. Maybe delete some clients from the front page.

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March 05, 2014, 02:51:06 PM
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I wish we had something like this

https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet

Separated between "mobile", "desktop" and "web" clients along with recommended "easy" install clients all located on the home website of the crypto(bitcoin). Could add things like Requires Java or not too.

We could always say for now "recommended for beginning users" and then link to whatever client we decide on.

 When I started to look at bitcoin the reason I didn't give up right away was because that website gives everything so simple and easy to understand basically anyone would be able to understand how to start bitcoin up. I chose multibit when I first started because it said easy to use... Tongue as a new user I didn't even know how to get Bitcoin let alone hold it somewhere. Didn't hear of Coinbase, etc. till I read a forum, didn't hear of any of these wallets till I read the main Bitcoin site. K.I.S.S.

This is a very good idea, I think.

We have different clients available for different type of users. We have the website nxtclient.org. Who is the owner of the site? We just need to offer a more structured overview of our clients.

Absolutely. My site is shit for a newcomer. I will think about it and change the structure. Maybe delete some clients from the front page.

Let me know if you need anything. I am not an experience coder, not a good graphic designer, but will help to find someone to support you.
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March 05, 2014, 02:53:13 PM
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BTC38 is asking about which coin to add next on their exchange. Please take a few minutes to let them know about Nxt:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501963.msg5525645#msg5525645

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March 05, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
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My installer downloads and installs Java when you install Nxt if you don't already have, exactly like you said it shouldn't because of admin rights...which I agree with. Since Nxt requires Java, though, this was by far the most user friendly solution. Over 5,500 downloads and I've only seen 3 or 4 people(that have contacted me) that had issues.
Unpacked JRE can be embedded into installer, and installed without admin rights. But it requires to create installers for each platform you support.

Double edged sword. I considered this but decided that most people will have Admin rights to their machine so downloading for the most part shouldn't be an issue......where as expecting people to know if they have x64 or x86 architecture and Win7/Win8 didn't seem like a good solution.

I chose to make a "one size fits all" installer rather than complicate matters.
User-installer JRE is double edged too Wink
What if some newest release of NRS will require newer version of Java? Will you check what version user have installed?
Embedded JRE is always considered as good solution for serious Java-based software.

Considering architecture: NRS is not required to run with x64 JRE since it doesn't require too much memory. Embedded x86 JRE work perfect in x64 Win. And there's no different JRE versions for different Windows.
Still do not know anything about *nix and OSX.

There is code in the installer to check the java version, yes. If needed, I can force an update Smiley

Edit: Not saying my way is the best or even most widely accepted way, just that this is how I chose to do it and was the first one to offer an installer. Honestly, I'm surprised it's still the only one out there and that someone hasn't made an embedded version.

Why am I not able to select another folder than Program Files to install Nxt?

Is this meant for me? The installer puts Nxt at C:\Nxt, not in Program Files.

I choose to install Nxt to c:\Nxt to keep it inline with the wiki and other tutorials. Since that is where the batch files point and I don't want to dynamically create them, I removed the ability to chose where to install it. More advanced users that will want it installed elsewhere probably wont need my installer to install Nxt for them.
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March 05, 2014, 02:54:51 PM
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BTC38 is asking about which coin to add next on their exchange. Please take a few minutes to let them know about Nxt:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501963.msg5525645#msg5525645



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March 05, 2014, 02:55:43 PM
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BTC38 is asking about which coin to add next on their exchange. Please take a few minutes to let them know about Nxt:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501963.msg5525645#msg5525645



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March 05, 2014, 02:56:25 PM
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My installer downloads and installs Java when you install Nxt if you don't already have, exactly like you said it shouldn't because of admin rights...which I agree with. Since Nxt requires Java, though, this was by far the most user friendly solution. Over 5,500 downloads and I've only seen 3 or 4 people(that have contacted me) that had issues.
Unpacked JRE can be embedded into installer, and installed without admin rights. But it requires to create installers for each platform you support.

Double edged sword. I considered this but decided that most people will have Admin rights to their machine so downloading for the most part shouldn't be an issue......where as expecting people to know if they have x64 or x86 architecture and Win7/Win8 didn't seem like a good solution.

I chose to make a "one size fits all" installer rather than complicate matters.
User-installer JRE is double edged too Wink
What if some newest release of NRS will require newer version of Java? Will you check what version user have installed?
Embedded JRE is always considered as good solution for serious Java-based software.

Considering architecture: NRS is not required to run with x64 JRE since it doesn't require too much memory. Embedded x86 JRE work perfect in x64 Win. And there's no different JRE versions for different Windows.
Still do not know anything about *nix and OSX.

There is code in the installer to check the java version, yes. If needed, I can force an update Smiley

Edit: Not saying my way is the best or even most widely accepted way, just that this is how I chose to do it and was the first one to offer an installer. Honestly, I'm surprised it's still the only one out there and that someone hasn't made an embedded version.

Why am I not able to select another folder than Program Files to install Nxt?

Is this meant for me? The installer puts Nxt at C:\Nxt, not in Program Files.

I choose to install Nxt to c:\Nxt to keep it inline with the wiki and other tutorials. Since that is where the batch files point and I don't want to dynamically create them, I removed the ability to chose where to install it. More advanced users that will want it installed elsewhere probably wont need my installer to install Nxt for them.

You might be right. Sorry for the confusion, it installed it to C:, not the program files, my bad.

Please read my edit for my previous post. And respect for your great work, you are a really big benefit for the community, like all other guys that not just cry about the low price and why nothing is working like they thin kit should, but really DO SOMETHING in order to help Nxt succeed. You are all doing a great job!

Let´s get things more organized to hit the mainstream.
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March 05, 2014, 02:57:35 PM
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BTC38 is asking about which coin to add next on their exchange. Please take a few minutes to let them know about Nxt:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501963.msg5525645#msg5525645



Where are the swarmers Tongue

Let's get NXT to the top of the votes and have it stay there.
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March 05, 2014, 03:01:12 PM
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I'd personally like to Wesley's web client be included with NRS.

I strongly agree with this proposal.

I admin the Nxt Wiki at http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/ Please support my work by donating to Nxt account #1234567740944417915
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March 05, 2014, 03:03:45 PM
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BTC38 is asking about which coin to add next on their exchange. Please take a few minutes to let them know about Nxt:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501963.msg5525645#msg5525645



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March 05, 2014, 03:04:02 PM
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More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.
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March 05, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
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Does anybody know if the getTrades API gets ALL changes in an assets ownership? I am assuming it gets all matched bid and ask orders, but does it also get all transferAsset txids?

I want to make sure I get any and all changes in asset balances.

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March 05, 2014, 03:06:25 PM
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Does anybody know if the getTrades API gets ALL changes in an assets ownership? I am assuming it gets all matched bid and ask orders, but does it also get all transferAsset txids?

I want to make sure I get any and all changes in asset balances.

James

Trades and transfers not linked.
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March 05, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
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More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.


And how should community decide? We will have a big duscission again, while work is on hold.
Please continue working on it, like planned, as this is the only way small stakeholders have the opportunity to forge. It is very frustrating to invest thousands of dollars and then see that you will generate the next block in 2 months.

If you want the community to decide, put up a voting, or make it clear HOW the community should decide, otherwise it is pointless and will only lead to another function not getting implemented till april.
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March 05, 2014, 03:07:20 PM
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I'd personally like to Wesley's web client be included with NRS.

I strongly agree with this proposal.

Agreed
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March 05, 2014, 03:09:11 PM
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Any updates on AE, what are we waiting for? can we set a date?


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March 05, 2014, 03:09:55 PM
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BTC38 is asking about which coin to add next on their exchange. Please take a few minutes to let them know about Nxt:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=501963.msg5525645#msg5525645



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March 05, 2014, 03:10:31 PM
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More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.


Isn't it much harder for NXT compared to Bitcoin to be 51%(NXT with 90%+ right?)

Just have multiple pools if I understand it correctly. It gives the little guy with <100k a chance to get something out of forging. Many people want an incentive to forge.
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March 05, 2014, 03:10:41 PM
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More I think about Pooled Forging, more I don't like it. Does anyone have any ideas where this could lead to? Won't we face the same problem as Bitcoin (GHash)?

I put refactoring on hold until the community decides that it's safe for Nxt.

As long as the big account holders dont pool their forging, it seems safe enough.

However, if we had nodecoin, that would let the small accounts gain daily rewards that they can see. I think that is what most people want to see. We can then just put in bids in AE for nodecoin so that it is actually worth NXT

Instead of pooled forging, can you port over multisig? That is much more important than pooled forging, since there are alternate solutions for that. Multisig is pretty fundamental.

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March 05, 2014, 03:13:30 PM
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good news, I have lobbied to add NXT on https://www.litebit.eu/

NXT will be ADDED NEXT THIS WEEK !!!!

this is big becausse you can buy NXT with mistercash, ideal, etc...


this is a new gateway to fiat also. MARKETING, GO PROMOTE IT PLS

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NXT: 12088507821025750338

They will even add it THIS week !

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