[ANN][GRA] Graincoin - New PoW/PoS coin | Fast, secure | Version 1.5 Released!

[Jollyburner]

A person who I was considered as a big supporter and core member of the grain community, becomes so nasty, because of his incapability, really surprised me. But the world is big, and you see all sorts of people. I don't want to waste my time here to argue with a stupid. No point.

Whatever premine is stated clearly, in the OP, from day 1 the coin is launched. And so many giveaways, bounties etc are given away. The purpose of the premine is stated very clearly. If you don't agree with it, no one forced you to mine or own this coin. I don't need to explain again on this.

you are making statements about my incapability, people are going to read what i said bosian. they are going to wonder how you can continue bringing up details when the details are not in your favor.

you straight agreed to a split, you want me to dig up the screenies? really?

you want to keep talkin trash? i would just drop it and pretend i never said anything bud.

remember i have shots of the website you didn't like, and can put it live for everyone to see how incapable i am. remember this is free work you have been so demanding about and feel isn't up to standard lol...

[marcje]

How does this PoS mining work? Just let your wallet open in background and do nothing?

[Jollyburner]

How does this PoS mining work? Just let your wallet open in background and do nothing?

as long as your wallet isn't locked it generates on its own yes, takes many days before your grain is eligible, you don't need it open the whole time, when its ready it will just start generating a few mins after u open ur wallet.

[Nullu]

A person who I was considered as a big supporter and core member of the grain community, becomes so nasty, because of his incapability, really surprised me. But the world is big, and you see all sorts of people. I don't want to waste my time here to argue with a stupid. No point.

Whatever premine is stated clearly, in the OP, from day 1 the coin is launched. And so many giveaways, bounties etc are given away. The purpose of the premine is stated very clearly. If you don't agree with it, no one forced you to mine or own this coin. I don't need to explain again on this.

you are making statements about my incapability, people are going to read what i said bosian. they are going to wonder how you can continue bringing up details when the details are not in your favor.

you straight agreed to a split, you want me to dig up the screenies? really?

you want to keep talkin trash? i would just drop it and pretend i never said anything bud.

remember i have shots of the website you didn't like, and can put it live for everyone to see how incapable i am. remember this is free work you have been so demanding about and feel isn't up to standard lol...

Nobody knows what prior agreements you both had, and what work has or hasn't been done. To anyone reading this, it looks like a spat between team members.

From what's been said bosian has about 0.4% of the 1% premine left, and all I see in the op is that the premine is reserved for developers, bounties, and so on. We are not privy to private discussions of development, so it's not really fair to drag all this out into the open when nobody can really prove who has or who hasn't done what.

I hope you both can amicably resolve this privately.

[Jollyburner]

Nobody knows what prior agreements you both had, and what work has or hasn't been done. To anyone reading this, it looks like a spat between team members.

From what's been said bosian has about 0.4% of the 1% premine left, and all I see in the op is that the premine is reserved for developers, bounties, and so on. We are not privy to private discussions of development, so it's not really fair to drag all this out into the open when nobody can really prove who has or who hasn't done what.

I hope you both can amicably resolve this privately.

i have no intentions of doing so, bosian in the same paragraph calls me nasty and stupid.

i don't think i have been nasty, and i don't appreciate being called stupid. i have put more effort into this community than bosian, have a look at the thread if you doubt that. i am not making any statements re bosians qualities as a dev or his ability to support the coin itself, i believe he has done well on these fronts, but i am not the only one who feels his interpersonal skills aren't incredibly well developed and his perspective could use some adjustment.

if anyone does have any questions plz PM me, my inbox is open, i have told many people that i believe in GRA and i think its fair that i have publicly stated my change of opinions on this matter, and that i haven't said anything that i didn't think needed saying.

[tekkx2k13]

could we come back to normal life please.

as bosian said 1% premine

now the math: 50 billion total --> 1% of it means 500Mil, thats it for development, giveaway, bounty, etc.

but have you seen any dump on coined up? i didn't

have you watched lotto coin? minutes after it hit the first exchange, billions of coins where for sale.

So in my opinion we will not see a dump of the premine.

Lets spread the word about the great PoS feature of GRA and how cool it is to see coins growing and growing.

Also I requested coinpayments.net to get GRA in the next vote for being added to their network.

and btw. Grain is also on twitter

https://twitter.com/Graincoin

[tekkx2k13]

How does this PoS mining work? Just let your wallet open in background and do nothing?

yes just leave it open and it will start minting coins.

description how it works to be read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361503.msg4489634

[btc1210]

If you both have claims, then by all means please back them up by facts. Right now this is the first of these issues I've ever heard of.

Until I see facts, I'm going to treat this as FUD and ignore it.

I didn't make a claim, I asked a question.

The dev has 192 million.

I tried to estimate the current number of GRA and came up with 305 million. I don't know if this is correct or not.
Either way, there are plenty of things that need to be fixed.

Ok, then. Where did you get 192 million from? And mining a coin after launch isn't a premine.

I don't really understand where all this is suddenly come from. If there was such a massive premine someone would have spotted it in the blockchain wouldn't they? We have the block explorer, and we have the coin source, and we have the date the thread was posted. It should be quite easy to work out the premine.

EDIT: So many posts about a premine. I never said premine. Stop saying it. Why is it so difficult to discuss these things?

I didn't say anything about a premine.

Page 55, the dev says he has 192 million.

I'm simply asking how much of the current market the dev controls.

After that, I'd want to calculate how much is actively being mined.

Considering how difficult PoW has been the past 2 days, these seem like valid concerns.

[ss666]

linux ubuntu - attempt to upgrade to v1.3 :

./graind -conf=/coins/grain/copperlark.conf -txindex -printtoconsole -upgradewallet

Grain version v1.3.0.0 (2014-01-08 19:03:11 -0800)
Using OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
Startup time: 01/13/14 23:16:58
Default data directory /coins/grain/.Grain
Used data directory /coins/grain/data
dbenv.open LogDir=/coins/grain/data/database ErrorFile=/coins/grain/data/db.log
ERROR: CDB() : error DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery (-30973) opening database environment
Grain: Error initializing database environment /coins/grain/data! To recover, BACKUP THAT DIRECTORY, then remove everything from it except for wallet.dat.
Grain: Error initializing database environment /coins/grain/data! To recover, BACKUP THAT DIRECTORY, then remove everything from it except for wallet.dat.
Flush(false) db not started
StopNode()
Flushed 0 addresses to peers.dat  0ms
Flush(true) db not started
Grain exited

graind v1.2 works fine at the same time

[bee7]

linux ubuntu - attempt to upgrade to v1.3 :

./graind -conf=/coins/grain/copperlark.conf -txindex -printtoconsole -upgradewallet

Grain version v1.3.0.0 (2014-01-08 19:03:11 -0800)
Using OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1e 11 Feb 2013
Startup time: 01/13/14 23:16:58
Default data directory /coins/grain/.Grain
Used data directory /coins/grain/data
dbenv.open LogDir=/coins/grain/data/database ErrorFile=/coins/grain/data/db.log
ERROR: CDB() : error DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery (-30973) opening database environment
Grain: Error initializing database environment /coins/grain/data! To recover, BACKUP THAT DIRECTORY, then remove everything from it except for wallet.dat.
Grain: Error initializing database environment /coins/grain/data! To recover, BACKUP THAT DIRECTORY, then remove everything from it except for wallet.dat.
Flush(false) db not started
StopNode()
Flushed 0 addresses to peers.dat  0ms
Flush(true) db not started
Grain exited

graind v1.2 works fine at the same time

I believe that the v1.2 had been built with Berkeley DB v4.xx while v1.3 with 5.xx. These versions of Berkeley DB have incompatible formats. Please ether rebuild the daemon from source using DB v4.xx or reload the chain as offered in the error message above

Edit:

instead of reloading the chain from peers you could try to move blk0001.dat from the .Grain directory and supply it to the daemon with the option -loadblock:

-loadblock=<file>      Imports blocks from external blk000?.dat file

[ss666]

I thought it too, BUT after index resync :

Code:

{
    "version" : "v1.3.0.0",
    "protocolversion" : 60006,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 7815.12985900,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 98068,
    "moneysupply" : 726329004.70842302,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "46.53.195.224",
    "difficulty" : 3.35115614,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1386531638,
    "keypoolsize" : 1002,
    "paytxfee" : 0.02000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
{
    "blocks" : 98068,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 3.35115614,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "networkhashps" : 482720157,
    "pooledtx" : 4,
    "testnet" : false
}

and it was

Code:

{
    "version" : "v1.2.0.0",
    "protocolversion" : 60006,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 1102053.39916600,
    "newmint" : 36697.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 97126,
    "moneysupply" : 739407826.63743496,
    "connections" : 3,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "46.53.195.224",
    "difficulty" : 0.00430282,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1386531638,
    "keypoolsize" : 1002,
    "paytxfee" : 0.02000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
{
    "blocks" : 97126,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 0.00430282,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "networkhashps" : 592006,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

we haven't mined for a while - almost for 6-8 days - and it was 130k ballance as we started yesterday. Alot of messages in output :

Code:

ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
ERROR: mempool transaction missing input

so? where are my coins?

[bee7]

we haven't mined for a while - almost for 6-8 days - and it was 130k ballance as we started yesterday. Alot of messages in output :

Code:

ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
ERROR: mempool transaction missing input
ERROR: mempool transaction missing input

so? where are my coins?

It was a hard fork at block 92000 that was announced in advance:

Version 1.3 Released. Version 1.3 is a mandatory upgrade, so please upgrade as soon as possible to avoid a fork. You must upgrade before the block 92000 (we are at block 83776 now - will take less than 3 days to arrive block 92000). So please upgrade now!

Version 1.3 fixes the PoS block generation issue, and it has the latest checkpoints. Download links for the Windows Client are updated in OP and source in github are updated too.

as well as on the first page of the thread. I am sorry for any your lost coins since block 92000

[rentarocker]

Love to see buy orders evaporate…and the sell orders not come down to meet them.

Thats the power of PoS.

Why sell for nothing when you can hold and mint new coin yourself?

[ss666]

If somebody thinks, that people live in a forums - they are wrong! No announce or message on official website. And we've lost coins we've mined long before that block - we were offline for a WHILE, approximately a week or more.

[bee7]

If somebody thinks, that people live in a forums - they are wrong! No announce or message on official website. And we've lost coins we've mined long before that block - we were offline for a WHILE, approximately a week or more.

The coins long before that block could not be lost. try -salvagewallet option please.

[ss666]

Code:

******* exception encountered *******


******* exception encountered *******


******* exception encountered *******


******* exception encountered *******


******* exception encountered *******


******* exception encountered *******


******* exception encountered *******
Bound to 0.0.0.0:11054
Loading block index...
LoadBlockIndex(): hashBestChain=627d81b8dea7bb7e5909  height=98121  trust=4660132305727  date=01/14/14 00:08:13
LoadBlockIndex(): synchronized checkpoint 000000018e5a2d900968e6449db5a9b27cabde1f21d883ee6ec53d6e2ad6d0a5
Verifying last 2500 blocks at level 1
 block index           29679ms
Loading wallet...
nFileVersion = 70200
Performing wallet upgrade to 60000
keypool added key 1, size=1

now it's :

Code:

{
    "version" : "v1.3.0.0",
    "protocolversion" : 60006,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 131679.72942300,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 0.00000000,
    "blocks" : 98124,
    "moneysupply" : 726331062.46442199,
    "connections" : 2,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "46.53.195.224",
    "difficulty" : 9.13952006,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1389658158,
    "keypoolsize" : 1001,
    "paytxfee" : 0.02000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
{
    "blocks" : 98124,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 9.13952006,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "networkhashps" : 1304478751,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

UPD: and what is this - see below :

Code:

{
    "version" : "v1.3.0.0",
    "protocolversion" : 60006,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 118935.72942300,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 12801.65917800,
    "blocks" : 98132,
    "moneysupply" : 726331147.69565201,
    "connections" : 2,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "46.53.195.224",
    "difficulty" : 9.13952006,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1389658158,
    "keypoolsize" : 1002,
    "paytxfee" : 0.02000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
{
    "blocks" : 98132,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 9.13952006,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "networkhashps" : 1252119290,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

[bee7]

...
UPD: and what is this - see below :

Code:

{
    "version" : "v1.3.0.0",
    "protocolversion" : 60006,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 118935.72942300,
    "newmint" : 0.00000000,
    "stake" : 12801.65917800,
    "blocks" : 98132,
    "moneysupply" : 726331147.69565201,
    "connections" : 2,
    "proxy" : "",
    "ip" : "46.53.195.224",
    "difficulty" : 9.13952006,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1389658158,
    "keypoolsize" : 1002,
    "paytxfee" : 0.02000000,
    "errors" : ""
}
{
    "blocks" : 98132,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 9.13952006,
    "errors" : "",
    "generate" : false,
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "hashespersec" : 0,
    "networkhashps" : 1252119290,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false
}

Did I get you right, that you found all your mined coins?

the "stake" coins are the coins that just participated in PoS mining, so you solved your first PoS block on a new chain. They will be shortly returned into the 'normal' state to get old enough to be eligible in the PoS mining again.

[bosian]

Please do a sync from scratch when you use 1.3. If there are any coins missing, you can try salvagewallet and repair wallet commands.

BTW, you said you have 3 transactions that are not confirmed, which version of the client you used? If you use 1.2, the transactions will not be validated. A complete sync should show the coins in original wallet.

[ss666]

I used 1.2 : two 500k transactions and after it a 1k transaction after - all from v1.2 to v1.3. 1k transaction was successful. I've found almost all our old coins via salvagewallet. Please do update your official site with announcements, that's what official websites made for

[bosian]

I used 1.2 : two 500k transactions and after it a 1k transaction after - all from v1.2 to v1.3. 1k transaction was successful. I've found almost all our old coins via salvagewallet. Please do update your official site with announcements, that's what official websites made for

Yes I did update the website, thanks for the info. When you use 1.2 transfer to 1.3, it is normal that the transaction will not go through. You don't need to transfer when upgrade to a new client.

Backup wallet.dat (always). Then clean up the contents in the config dir (Grain dir under AppData/Roaming), EXCEPT wallet.dat. DON'T remove the wallet.dat. Now start the 1.3 client, wait it to sync and download the whole blockchain, once in sync, you should be fine.

Now do that with wallet.dat that you used in 1.2, those you sent to 1.3 should still be in that wallet. It's better that you use a wallet.dat backup before you do the sends to perform this. Otherwise if you don't see the balance, use repairwallet.