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March 18, 2014, 06:17:49 AM Last edit: March 18, 2014, 07:55:10 AM by Balthazar |
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Population of Crimea. Not of whole Russia. They are less than 3% now. The same numbers as american natives in the Us. (if we talk about combined races also) around 2% Crimean Tatars are about 10-12% of the population of Crimea, and that would make 0.1-0.2% of the population of Russia. Russian Federation already includes the Republic of Tatarstan with 53.2% tatars population according to 2010 Census. It also includes Republic of Bashkortostan with 25.4% tatars population according to 2010 Census. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatarshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatarstanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Bashkortostan
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Balthazar u can add that tatar is the second language in russian federation
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Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 18, 2014, 07:27:49 AM |
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Balthazar u can add that tatar is the second language in russian federation
Crimea(as a subject of the Russian Federation) will have three official languages: Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar
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March 18, 2014, 07:29:31 AM |
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Balthazar u can add that tatar is the second language in russian federation
Crimea will have three official languages: Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar Be a lot easier if they just switched to English but doing so would put a lot of translatators out of business. My $.02. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 18, 2014, 07:48:21 AM |
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Balthazar u can add that tatar is the second language in russian federation
Crimea will have three official languages: Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar Be a lot easier if they just switched to English but doing so would put a lot of translatators out of business. My $.02. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Weren't we all supposed to start learning chinese ? Why bother with english!
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March 18, 2014, 07:53:48 AM |
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Weren't we all supposed to start learning chinese ? Why bother with english!
Because even the Chinese themselves are learning English. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 18, 2014, 08:31:52 AM |
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Weren't we all supposed to start learning chinese ? Why bother with english!
Because even the Chinese themselves are learning English. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It happened before in my country , people we're saying: in the 50's learn Russian , after that for a while french and english , then german , japanese for a few years, then english and now german is sharing the interest with english again. And every time people argue that this one will become the ruling language. 60 years passed and ... nothing happened.
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March 18, 2014, 09:08:44 AM |
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@Bit_Happy: Have you read any of the posts prior to posting? If not, please do so, as it starts getting tedious to repeat oneself dispelling the Western propaganda. Some keywords for you, though: - Referendum - the best representation of direct democracy - Crimea - a region unconstitutionally annexed to Ukraine in 1954, with Russian majority, which always had a very strong reunification movement. - Double morale - see Western stance on Kosovo. @LostDutchman: That was all along the NATO/US/EU plan when they we installing the puppet government in Kiev. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) @niothor: The irony is that we still continue to call such a "predominant" international language as "lingua franca" ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Russia itself had seen a series of must-know languages for any educated person - first Greek, then French, then German, and now English.
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March 18, 2014, 09:15:21 AM |
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http://www.mauldineconomics.com/ttmygh/crimea-river(Marina Lewycka): Public clashes between Ukrainians and Russians in the main square in Sevastopol. Ukrainians protesting at Russian interference; Crimean Russians demanding the return of Sevastopol to Russia, and that parliament recognise Russian as the state language. Ukrainian deputies barred from the government building; a Russian "information centre" opening in Sevastopol. Calls from the Ukrainian ministry of defence for an end to the agreement dividing the Black Sea fleet between the Russian and Ukrainian navies. The move is labelled a political provocation by Russian deputies. The presidium of the Crimean parliament announces a referendum on Crimean independence, and the Russian deputy says that Russia is ready to supervise it. A leader of the Russian Society of Crimea threatens armed mutiny and the establishment of a Russian administration in Sevastopol. A Russian navy chief accuses Ukraine of converting some of his Black Sea fleet, and conducting armed assault on his personnel. He threatens to place the fleet on alert. The conflict escalates into terrorism, arson attacks and murder.
Sound familiar? All this happened in 1993, and it has been happening, in some form or other, since at least the 14th century. enjoy
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Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 18, 2014, 10:08:28 AM |
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Latest news: - The President gave a recommendation to the Federal Council to accept a law draft which provisions integration of Crimea as part of Russian Federation. Earlier, yesterday Mr. Putin acknowledged by his decree Crimea as an independent state. - Russian Parliament, in a show of solidarity, asked President Obama to extend his sanctions on all member of the Russian Parliament. (No need for discrimination ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) - The city of Moscow plans to replace goods previously purchased from the countries of the NATO block with goods from BRICS. ( http://finance.rambler.ru/news/economics/143022771.html) - Crimean car license plates received a new regional letter code from Russian Federation.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 18, 2014, 10:19:31 AM |
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Latest news: - The President gave a recommendation to the Federal Council to accept a law draft which provisions integration of Crimea as part of Russian Federation. Earlier, yesterday Mr. Putin acknowledged by his decree Crimea as an independent state. - Russian Parliament, in a show of solidarity, asked President Obama to extend his sanctions on all member of the Russian Parliament. (No need for discrimination ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) - The city of Moscow plans to replace goods previously purchased from the countries of the NATO block with goods from BRICS. ( http://finance.rambler.ru/news/economics/143022771.html) - Crimean car license plates received a new regional letter code from Russian Federation. Good luck on that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In an economical war , there will be only one winner, And that ain't Russia.
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March 18, 2014, 10:24:15 AM |
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Good luck on that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In an economical war , there will be only one winner, And that ain't Russia. Can't argue with that, but the point is not Russia winning, but not letting NATO win. Some goods need to be purchased from abroad, and buying them from India, China or Brazil would be preferable in the current political climate. I predict that the true winner in this situation will be China. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh, and here is talk of Russia leaving WTO mafia group.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 18, 2014, 10:30:42 AM |
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Good luck on that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In an economical war , there will be only one winner, And that ain't Russia. Can't argue with that, but the point is not Russia winning, but not letting NATO win. Some goods need to be purchased from abroad, and buying them from India, China or Brazil would be preferable in the current political climate. I predict that the true winner in this situation will be China. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh, and here is talk of Russia leaving WTO mafia group. China can't supply Russia with the goods that the eu does. In fact they are also dependent from the EU just like all the Brics. Machinery ,industrial robots , electronics and electrical equipment that is all the brics countries have failed to produce at the standard need. Basically without the machinery from the eu and us , China won't be able to produce anything. At least not something that would last more than 10 days.
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March 18, 2014, 10:44:51 AM |
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China can't supply Russia with the goods that the eu does. In fact they are also dependent from the EU just like all the Brics. Machinery ,industrial robots , electronics and electrical equipment that is all the brics countries have failed to produce at the standard need.
Basically without the machinery from the eu and us , China won't be able to produce anything. At least not something that would last more than 10 days.
each country exports their leading products and i dont see much EU exports to russia https://i.imgur.com/CTthxjc.jpg (what each country leads the world in)
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Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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March 18, 2014, 10:51:27 AM |
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Good luck on that. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In an economical war , there will be only one winner, And that ain't Russia. Can't argue with that, but the point is not Russia winning, but not letting NATO win. Some goods need to be purchased from abroad, and buying them from India, China or Brazil would be preferable in the current political climate. I predict that the true winner in this situation will be China. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Oh, and here is talk of Russia leaving WTO mafia group. China can't supply Russia with the goods that the eu does. In fact they are also dependent from the EU just like all the Brics. Machinery ,industrial robots , electronics and electrical equipment that is all the brics countries have failed to produce at the standard need. Basically without the machinery from the eu and us , China won't be able to produce anything. At least not something that would last more than 10 days. That article talked about foods, mainly from Spain, Holland and Poland. Potentially Russia can be self-sustained, but the industry and production were systematically destroyed and left in neglect after the SU dissolvment. The sanctions might be just what the doctor ordered to bring Russian home production back on track.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 18, 2014, 10:51:58 AM |
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China can't supply Russia with the goods that the eu does. In fact they are also dependent from the EU just like all the Brics. Machinery ,industrial robots , electronics and electrical equipment that is all the brics countries have failed to produce at the standard need.
Basically without the machinery from the eu and us , China won't be able to produce anything. At least not something that would last more than 10 days.
each country exports their leading products and i dont see much EU exports to russia https://i.imgur.com/CTthxjc.jpg (what each country leads the world in) Well , they got that map spot on. You see that red thingy in eastern europe labelled Gypsies ? Those are far more dangerous than nuclear warheads.
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March 18, 2014, 10:56:15 AM |
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http://eng.kremlin.ru/news/6888Well... Congrats to citizens of the Republic of Crimea, 50 years of Ukrainian occupation has been ended. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 18, 2014, 10:59:34 AM |
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Gorbachev has spoken on the subject of Crimean referendum: http://rt.com/news/mistake-fixed-crimea-gorbachev-422/Actually, 60 years of occupation. From the 19 th of February 1954 until the 15 th of March 2014. Congratulations, Crimeans!
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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March 18, 2014, 11:12:28 AM |
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Crimea has already officially introduced the ruble as a second currency along with the Ukrainian hryvna. On Monday the republic also created the Bank of Crimea and announced that all budget incomes, which up until now were being transferred to Kiev, will now be credited to the republic's accounts. The dual currency will be in place for about six months.
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March 18, 2014, 12:27:50 PM Last edit: March 18, 2014, 01:42:27 PM by Nemo1024 |
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Russian Federation, the Republic of Crimea, and the City of Sevastopol signed a mutual agreement of accepting Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol into Russian Federation, and creation of new subjects inside Russian Federation. The document was signed by RF President Vladimir Putin, Chairman of the state senate of Republic Crimea Vladimir Konstantinov, Chairman of the Cabimet of Ministers of Republic of Crimea Sergje Aksjonov, and chairman of coordination committee of the Sevastopol city government Aleksej Chalov: http://news.kremlin.ru/news/20604Note that Republic of Crimea and the City of Sevastopol are two separate jurisdictions. PS: I just love reading comments, where people give heartfelt thanks to Obama and his spending of 5 billion of American taxpayers' dollars on creating such conditions in Ukraine, where regions flee the county and seek reunification with the mainland. Maybe this is Obama's covert way of finally justifying his Nobel Peace Prize? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) You would also often come across individual comments along the lines if "Odessa wants back as well" and "Don't forget about us in Donbass". ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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