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[Spendulus]

Senator: Use RICO Laws to Prosecute Global Warming Skeptics

1:45 PM, JUN 2, 2015 • BY MARK HEMINGWAY

Writing in the Washington Post, Sheldon Whitehouse, a Democratic Senator from Rhode Island, offered a curious suggestion for dealing with global warming skeptics:

In 2006, Judge Gladys Kessler of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia decided that the tobacco companies’ fraudulent campaign amounted to a racketeering enterprise. According to the court: “Defendants coordinated significant aspects of their public relations, scientific, legal, and marketing activity in furtherance of a shared objective — to . . . maximize industry profits by preserving and expanding the market for cigarettes through a scheme to deceive the public.” zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz more...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/sen-whitehouse-d-ri-suggests-using-rico-laws-global-warming-skeptics_963007.html

You do know, my friend, that the skeptics are the worst fiends since Dracula walked the earth.  Indeed, we must pull out all the stops to stop them, before they destroy the Earth as we know it.  Yes, it's been somewhat colder lately.   But to stop the cold, which is produced by the Global Warming, we must strive to reduce CO2 emissions, as they make the world warmer.  In other words, less CO2, and the world is colder.  So to make it warmer, we need to take urgent action now, to reduce the warming.  I know that you will understand this, while only the simple minded and ignorant would dare to suggest that to make it warmer, we would take action to make it warmer.   NO!  Of course not!  To make it less cold, we take action to make it COLDER!

Whenever you would like to discuss this more, just let me know.

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[galdur]

Yes, Spendulus. Every possible measure must be taken to reduce CO2 emissions. In fact every breathing being should be required to at least reduce exhalation and preferably stop that dangerous practice altogether.

[galdur]

But speaking of global warming catastrophes...here´s yet another one

The Sahara Desert is getting greener

A few thousand years ago, a mighty river flowed through the Sahara across what is today Sudan. The Wadi Howar—now just a dried-out riverbed for most of the year—sustained not just fish, crocodiles, and hippopotamuses, but also agriculture and human settlement. As late as 1,000 B.C., a powerful fortress stood on its shores. But then the Sahara dried out, turning from a green savannah into an inhospitable desert. The culprit: climate change. According to desert geologist Stefan Kröpelin, who has studied geological data for the eastern Sahara going back 6,000 years, the desert spread as temperatures dropped. Global cooling meant that the air had less capacity to hold moisture from the oceans, leading to fewer rains and more arid climes.

Now, that same process is happening in reverse. As temperatures rise, the Sahara and other dry areas are greening on the edges. “I’ve been studying the Sahara for 30 years and can definitely say that it’s getting greener,” says Kröpelin, who specializes in desert archaeology and climate history at the University of Cologne. Where there used to be nothing but desert, he says, there is now not just grass but shrubs and acacia trees--and he has the photos from 30 years of extensive field study to prove it. “The nomads are taking their camels to graze in areas where they’ve never been able to graze before.” Satellite data showing more green on the southern edge of the Sahara also bear him out. "There are always winners and losers if weather patterns change," he says. “But as a general rule, warmer temperatures inevitably mean that the air picks up more moisture from the oceans, which will lead to more rainfall. If you look at the geological records in the Sahara, there have been repeated periods where the Sahara was greener when temperatures were warmer than today.”

Kröpelin’s geological data seem to question the popular notion that climate change will bring negative, if not outright apocalyptic effects: A dying Amazon, failing rains, drought, and desertification. The latest IPCC report predicts a decline in rainfall across large swaths of Africa of 20 percent or more, leading to deadly famines like the one raging in Somalia now. Millions of “climate refugees” might one day roam the earth. .... more

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/26/climate-change-is-making-deserts-greener.html

[Spendulus]

Yes, Spendulus. Every possible measure must be taken to reduce CO2 emissions. In fact every breathing being should be required to at least reduce exhalation and preferably stop that dangerous practice altogether.

I think this is an excellent suggestion.

A simple way to introduce the concept for the unwashed masses of humanity would be to require them to stop breathing for a short time every day, say thirty minutes.  Compliance would of course be required and we would have a staff of trained monitors for this job.  Would you be available?

The same procedures would be required for beef cattle, another dangerous emitter.   Using the principle of "Worst First"  we would first limit emissions to the prescribed 23.5 hours per day for the Wagu cattle herds.  While non-surviving humans would be cremated, special care would be required to prevent dangerous methane emissions from rotting dead cattle.  Therefore they would be slaughtered and the better cuts of meat cooked over only wood fires (no fossil fuels of course) and eaten.

After the Wagu, the Angus.  Saving the planet is a difficult job, but someone's got to do it.

[galdur]

More on the global warming havoc hitting Norway...

Norway – ‘January in June’ strands drivers
JUNE 3, 2015

“It was incredible to wake up to a full snowstorm in June,”
Sigurd Bjåen of Hovden, in the mountains of southern Norway, exclaimed on national radio Tuesday morning. The heavy and drifting snow forced closure of several highways, with others open only for convoy-driving behind snowplows.(Excerpts) – On Highway 55 over Sognefjellet, emergency crews had to rescue 39 people from 17 vehicles that got caught and partially buried by the snowstorm Monday afternoon. “We couldn’t see a thing,” Terje Weka, an experienced snowplow driver, told Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK). “There was so much wind and zero visibility. It was difficult to work, we had to just feel our way forward.” That highway was closed as well.Most all motorists in Norway switched from winter- to summer tires weeks ago, believing that winter was over.Snow hasn’t fallen to such a degree, even in the high mountains, since at least 1967.Article in English:
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2015/06/02/january-in-june-strands-drivers/

[Wilikon]

Yes, Spendulus. Every possible measure must be taken to reduce CO2 emissions. In fact every breathing being should be required to at least reduce exhalation and preferably stop that dangerous practice altogether.

[galdur]

Hmmm

6H2O + 6CO2 ———-> C6H12O6+ 6O2

Six molecules of water plus six molecules of carbon dioxide produce one molecule of sugar plus six molecules of oxygen.

So, instead of stopping exhaling altogether all humans should be required to carry with them at all times a big plant to exhale on. This would square their carbon offset. And they´d get some sugar too.

[Wilikon]

Hmmm

6H2O + 6CO2 ———-> C6H12O6+ 6O2

Six molecules of water plus six molecules of carbon dioxide produce one molecule of sugar plus six molecules of oxygen.

So, instead of stopping exhaling altogether all humans should be required to carry with them at all times a big plant to exhale on. This would square their carbon offset. And they´d get some sugar too.

[Anon136]

Hmmm

6H2O + 6CO2 ———-> C6H12O6+ 6O2

Six molecules of water plus six molecules of carbon dioxide produce one molecule of sugar plus six molecules of oxygen.

So, instead of stopping exhaling altogether all humans should be required to carry with them at all times a big plant to exhale on. This would square their carbon offset. And they´d get some sugar too.

Dont give them ideas. Some ego fascist will probably actually invent some sort of algae filled face mask, and then its just one, imagined or otherwise, crisis away from a government anti agw face mask mandate.

[galdur]

Dont give them ideas.

Yeah good point I´m sure. LOL.

That grow a pet thing is for real Oh my dog what is the world coming to.

[Wilikon]

Hmmm

6H2O + 6CO2 ———-> C6H12O6+ 6O2

Six molecules of water plus six molecules of carbon dioxide produce one molecule of sugar plus six molecules of oxygen.

So, instead of stopping exhaling altogether all humans should be required to carry with them at all times a big plant to exhale on. This would square their carbon offset. And they´d get some sugar too.

Dont give them ideas. Some ego fascist will probably actually invent some sort of algae filled face mask, and then its just one, imagined or otherwise, crisis away from a government anti agw face mask mandate.

Oh.. So this how it all started... Algea filled face masks...

[Wilikon]

Dont give them ideas.

Yeah good point I´m sure. LOL.

That grow a pet thing is for real Oh my dog what is the world coming to.

Yes it is. It is now an old classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzY7qQFij_M



But at least it is not a pet rock...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKtHAicd1-Y

[galdur]

Snow has been falling over upland areas of Scotland.
Glencoe Mountain and Nevis Range snowsports centres have been among places to report having coverings of snow.
A picture by Mark Trigg for his Facebook page Back Corries shows a thick covering on Aonach Mor.
The picture has been shared on Twitter by Iain Cameron, who studies and writes about snow, and Lomond Mountain Rescue Team.
In a message below the photograph, Mr Cameron said: "This is 1pm on Tuesday the 2nd of June on Aonach Mor and this is just ridiculous. Unprecedented, perhaps."
The rescue team has also asked if anyone can remember a longer winter season.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-32973067
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/media/images/83380000/jpg/_83380145_backcorries.jpg
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83380000/jpg/_83380468_snow.jpg
http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/83380000/jpg/_83380466_nevisrange.jpg
 

[Wilikon]

EPA Chief: Don’t Worry About Proof, Just Trust The Government When It Comes To Global Warming…

Americans are just going to have to trust the EPA’s 44 years of experience dealing with environmental issues when it comes to figuring out ways to cope with man-made global warming, says the agency’s chief.

EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy told Big Think in an interview that while there are limits to how much the federal government can do for issues like global warming, the public needs to trust how the EPA translates the “complicated” science into real-life actions.

“Well I think we all have to recognize the strengths and limitations of government action,” McCarthy said. “But here’s what I think we can do at the federal level more effectively. We can speak to the science because it’s complicated and we do a lot of research and we do a lot of translation of the science into what it means for people so that the decisions can be made on the basis of real science and on the basis of a real technical understanding.”

“That’s how it has worked in EPA’s career for 44 years at EPA is we’ve listened to the science and the law and we have let solutions take off in the marketplace which is where the cheapest, most effective always win,” McCarthy said. “That’s why EPA can move environmental standards forward so effectively and grow jobs at the same time.”

The EPA is on the verge of finalizing rules limiting CO2 emissions from power plants as part of President Barack Obama’s climate agenda. Republicans and industrial lobbies have opposed the rules, saying they will be costly and do nothing to stem warming.


http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/03/epa-chief-just-trust-us-on-climate-science/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[galdur]

Here’s Why The EPA Could Be The Most Corrupt Agency Of The Government (And That’s Saying Something)

Real environmental protection starts with draining this fetid swamp.

Michelle Malkin August 1, 2014 at 12:35pm

The lofty motto of the Environmental Protection Agency is “protecting people and the environment.” In practice, however, EPA bureaucrats faithfully protect their own people and preserve the government’s cesspool of manipulation, cover-ups, and cronyism.

Just last week, Mark Levin and his vigilant Landmark Legal Foundation went to court to ask federal district judge Royce Lamberth to sanction the EPA “for destroying or failing to preserve emails and text messages that may have helped document suspected agency efforts to influence the 2012 presidential election.” The motion is part of a larger Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit to force the EPA to release emails and related records from former EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson and others “who may have delayed the release dates for hot-button environmental regulations until after the Nov. 6, 2012, presidential election.” .... much more

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exposed-environmental-corruption-agency/

[Wilikon]

Get me off this planet, because we have climate change zombies now

Winter is Comming...

http://www.vox.com/2015/6/4/8724821/game-of-thrones-climate-change





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Everything is about climate change now. Everything. Too bad they forgot to ask the author if he had global warming in his mind when he was typing away on his old DOS PC using WordStar 4.0...

 

[galdur]

Nuuk, Greenland Having Its Coldest Year On Record

Posted on June 4, 2015 by tonyheller

Temperatures in the capital of Greenland have been the coldest on record, and they are still buried in snow. Temperatures have plummeted over the past decade. ....

http://realclimatescience.com/2015/06/nuuk-greenland-having-its-coldest-year-on-record/

[galdur]

Well, as for Game of Thrones - since that winter is coming thing is cyclical

- according to the story -  it seems to follow that it would be caused by the rotation of their imaginary planet around their imaginary sun. Or caused entirely by those white walker guys and in that imaginary event why they would want the thing to be cyclical is anybody´s guess.

[galdur]

Via Twitchy:

Finally, in a stunning revelation, when an audience member put the ridiculous question, “JRR Tolkien strenuously denied that his books were in any way an allegory for World War II, have you ever been accused of writing about climate change by proxy? You know, it being a bit of a thing in your works, the long Winter?” George replied, “No, I haven’t, not until now,” and continued, “Like Tolkien I do not write allegory, at least not intentionally. Obviously you live in the world and you’re affected by the world around you, so some things sink in on some level, but, if I really wanted to write about climate change in the 21st century I’d write a novel about climate change in the 21st century. Sometimes things happen that are hard to believe. You have to remember I’ve been writing these since 1991, in a couple of the recent books Daenerys Targaryen wielding the massive military superiority offered to her by three dragons has taken over a part of the world where the culture and ethos, and the very people are completely alien to her, and she’s having difficulty ruling this land once she conquered it. It did dawn on me when George W Bush started doing the same thing that some people might say, ‘Hmmm, George is commenting on the Iraq War’, but I swear to you I planned Dany’s thing long before George Bush planned the Iraq War, but I think both military adventures may come to the same end, but it’s not allegory.”

[Spendulus]

Nuuk, Greenland Having Its Coldest Year On Record

Posted on June 4, 2015 by tonyheller

Temperatures in the capital of Greenland have been the coldest on record, and they are still buried in snow. Temperatures have plummeted over the past decade. ....

http://realclimatescience.com/2015/06/nuuk-greenland-having-its-coldest-year-on-record/

Please.  No nuking Nuuk!  Okay?