Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

[galdur]

Forgetting CO2 for a moment (or maybe forever) I've wondered about various fine particulates from industrial processes and their impact on cloud formation.  It would be kind of interesting if it turned out that by 'cleaning up' (or flat out de-industrializing in the case of the U.S.) the energy balance was tipped toward more warming.  Similarly, by avoiding fires and plowing.

I guess if that were the case we'd have no choice but to pay special interests who have aircraft at their disposal to spray areosols into the atmosphere day in and day out.  Using our tax dollars of course.

Actually, I'm kind of half expecting the government to bail out the greens by coming forward and saying "Ya, ok, we've been doing geo-engineering since the turn of the century and that is the only reason why the earth has not reached the 'tipping point' and been plunged into an unlivable inferno."

I might also add that in my area, the 'indigenous people's (RIP (and TM)) used to set fires to manipulate the environment and make it more suitable for game.  They (the West Coast US Native Americans) didn't have a lot of sophisticated computer models to guild their activities.  Nor did they have 747s outfitted as tankers so sometimes the fires got really big and burnt vast tracts of forest.  Likely other less advanced peoples did similar things with fire here and there.  The plot showing an unusually longish 'table-top' encompassing the current warm spike seems to correspond with the existence of the our species.  I wonder if this is entirely coincidental.

Aerosols and particulates have been extensively studied.  One aspect of them I find intriquing is that when, say black soot lays down on top of snow, the snow melts far, far more rapidly.  And the soot does not go away - it just continues sitting on top of the snow layer.  There is a question as to whether this may be happening up in the NP areas.

Also, the "Asian brown cloud" is quite interesting.

Good point. Obviously my winter coat and cap are black.

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[Wilikon]

Pope Francis will lead the fight against global warming in a number of activities planned for 2015.

He has been called the “superman pope”, and it would be hard to deny that Pope Francis has had a good December. Cited by President Barack Obama as a key player in the thawing relations between the US and Cuba, the Argentinian pontiff followed that by lecturing his cardinals on the need to clean up Vatican politics. But can Francis achieve a feat that has so far eluded secular powers and inspire decisive action on climate change?

It looks as if he will give it a go. In 2015, the pope will issue a lengthy message on the subject to the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics, give an address to the UN general assembly and call a summit of the world’s main religions.

The reason for such frenetic activity, says Bishop Marcelo Sorondo, chancellor of the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences, is the pope’s wish to directly influence next year’s crucial UN climate meeting in Paris, when countries will try to conclude 20 years of fraught negotiations with a universal commitment to reduce emissions.

“Our academics supported the pope’s initiative to influence next year’s crucial decisions,” Sorondo told Cafod, the Catholic development agency, at a meeting in London. “The idea is to convene a meeting with leaders of the main religions to make all people aware of the state of our climate and the tragedy of social exclusion.”

Following a visit in March to Tacloban, the Philippine city devastated in 2012 by typhoon Haiyan, the pope will publish a rare encyclical on climate change and human ecology. Urging all Catholics to take action on moral and scientific grounds, the document will be sent to the world’s 5,000 Catholic bishops and 400,000 priests, who will distribute it to parishioners.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/27/pope-francis-edict-climate-change-us-rightwing


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Bill nye and pope francis walk into a bar...

[galdur]

[Spendulus]

I assume it's only a matter of time before the Great Pope (may Gaia bless his name and give him peace) starts sermonizing against the Great Evil ...

The Deniers...

http://www.populartechnology.net/2014/02/skeptics-smeared-as-holocaust-deniers.html

[galdur]

University Park, Pa. — Cow belches, a major source of greenhouse gases, could be decreased by an unusual feed supplement developed by a Penn State dairy scientist.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/09/07/penn-states-greenhouse-gas-solution-cow-beano/

[hdbuck]

Pope Francis will lead the fight against global warming in a number of activities planned for 2015.

He has been called the “superman pope”, and it would be hard to deny that Pope Francis has had a good December. Cited by President Barack Obama as a key player in the thawing relations between the US and Cuba, the Argentinian pontiff followed that by lecturing his cardinals on the need to clean up Vatican politics. But can Francis achieve a feat that has so far eluded secular powers and inspire decisive action on climate change?

It looks as if he will give it a go. In 2015, the pope will issue a lengthy message on the subject to the world’s 1.2 billion Catholics, give an address to the UN general assembly and call a summit of the world’s main religions.

The reason for such frenetic activity, says Bishop Marcelo Sorondo, chancellor of the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences, is the pope’s wish to directly influence next year’s crucial UN climate meeting in Paris, when countries will try to conclude 20 years of fraught negotiations with a universal commitment to reduce emissions.

“Our academics supported the pope’s initiative to influence next year’s crucial decisions,” Sorondo told Cafod, the Catholic development agency, at a meeting in London. “The idea is to convene a meeting with leaders of the main religions to make all people aware of the state of our climate and the tragedy of social exclusion.”

Following a visit in March to Tacloban, the Philippine city devastated in 2012 by typhoon Haiyan, the pope will publish a rare encyclical on climate change and human ecology. Urging all Catholics to take action on moral and scientific grounds, the document will be sent to the world’s 5,000 Catholic bishops and 400,000 priests, who will distribute it to parishioners.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/27/pope-francis-edict-climate-change-us-rightwing


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Bill nye and pope francis walk into a bar...

now this is by far the weirdest move from this pope.. after sharing bed with obama and castro to cut a new deal between those two basterdz and pimping all around the more than laic EU parliament..
im starting to wrap my head around the possibility that he may in fact be the very last pope. screwing all over the last catholic precepts to embrace capitalistic shemale occidental BS.


> https://www.worldslastchance.com/end-time-prophecy/living-under-the-last-pope-12-facts-you-must-know.html

St Malachy is teh father of deniers.

[galdur]

Yep, the first ever Jesuit Pope could be the last Pope.

[Spendulus]

Yep, the first ever Jesuit Pope could be the last Pope.

Nope.

I profitize there will yet be one more in the Coming End Times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4

[Wilikon]

As of today, there will be an extra price for us to pay to enjoy such outings. In 2006, after being bombarded with “man-made global warming” hysteria, our state legislators approved the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006 (i.e., AB32) to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from all sources throughout the state and work via a “cap and trade” system. It was then signed into law by “conservative” Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger to much fanfare.


http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/01/snow-bound-californians-now-paying-global-warming-gas-tax-hike/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LegalInsurrection+%28Le%C2%B7gal+In%C2%B7sur%C2%B7rec%C2%B7tion%29

[galdur]

Speaking of Arnie, I must lament the pathetic end of his movie career.

I thought the man was filthy rich, why does he have roll in freakin

Hollywood mud like a pig.

Downloaded "Sabotage" something I thankfully missed at the time and

tried watching it. Gave up after about twenty minutes. it´s an awful

movie and after hearing "fuck" about thirty times a minute in about

every fucking sentence you´ll soon have had enough.

[Spendulus]

Speaking of Arnie, I must lament the pathetic end of his movie career.

I thought the man was filthy rich, why does he have roll in freakin

Hollywood mud like a pig.

Downloaded "Sabotage" something I thankfully missed at the time and

tried watching it. Gave up after about twenty minutes. it´s an awful

movie and after hearing "fuck" about thirty times a minute in about

every fucking sentence you´ll soon have had enough.

Fuck, that's fucking atrocious.

[Wilikon]

New Federal Guidelines Might Take Environmental Impact Into Account Now Too


For years, the government has been issuing guidelines about healthy eating choices. Now, a panel that advises the Agriculture Department is ready to recommend that you be told not only what foods are better for your own health, but for the environment as well.

That means that when the latest version of the government’s dietary guidelines comes out, it may push even harder than it has in recent years for people to choose more fruits, vegetables, nuts, whole grains and other plant-based foods — at the expense of meat.

The beef and agriculture industries are crying foul, saying an environmental agenda has no place in what has always been a practical blueprint for a healthy lifestyle.

The advisory panel has been discussing the idea of sustainability in public meetings, indicating that its recommendations, expected early this year, may address the environment. A draft recommendation circulated last month said a sustainable diet helps ensure food access for both the current population and future generations.



http://mynorthwest.com/178/2680775/New-diet-guidelines-might-pull-back-from-meat

[cryptocoiner]

One thing about climate change. It's real and it's coming!! CO2 levels are rising. And it will have significant effect on our planet.

[tvbcof]

One thing about climate change. It's real and it's coming!! CO2 levels are rising. And it will have significant effect on our planet.

Ya, plants may grow better.  The horror...the horror...

[galdur]

Oldie but goldie

[galdur]

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[Spendulus]

One thing about climate change. It's real and it's coming!! CO2 levels are rising. And it will have significant effect on our planet.

I agree!

Climate change is coming!

The climate change of NIGHT is close!

And the climate change of SUMMER is coming!

And the climate change of AN ICE AGE is coming!

[Spendulus]

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After

I have my grill ready.

[hdbuck]

One thing about climate change. It's real and it's coming!! CO2 levels are rising. And it will have significant effect on our planet.

Ya, plants may grow better.  The horror...the horror...

fresh air, growing trees and a little tan. sounds awful

[poisenrang]

GEERTJE WILDERS!!!