Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.

[flagpara]

Answer?  I said the numbers were readily available for a comparison, and that this has been studied (EG, "Urban Heat Island").

No, I am NOT seeing "weather became rather crazy gotta admit that."

I AM seeing massive amounts of media trying to convince people of that.

Sorry if you found my tone being agressive, it's just that I didn't see your answer and found the question interesting 

Well if you're not seeing weather becoming crazy it seems you don't go out a lot Oo
Weather is becoming more and more extreme, here is a chart of evolution of natural disasters :
http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=16/02/tjt5.png

I'm French, first time I ever see a winter without going in a negative temperature in my life. First neg temperature are coming this end of the week, you think it's all normal?

Maybe you have data I don't, but don't you think you're just ignoring facts? 

[Wilikon]

Answer?  I said the numbers were readily available for a comparison, and that this has been studied (EG, "Urban Heat Island").

No, I am NOT seeing "weather became rather crazy gotta admit that."

I AM seeing massive amounts of media trying to convince people of that.

Sorry if you found my tone being agressive, it's just that I didn't see your answer and found the question interesting 

Well if you're not seeing weather becoming crazy it seems you don't go out a lot Oo
Weather is becoming more and more extreme, here is a chart of evolution of natural disasters :
http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=16/02/tjt5.png

I'm French, first time I ever see a winter without going in a negative temperature in my life. First neg temperature are coming this end of the week, you think it's all normal?

Maybe you have data I don't, but don't you think you're just ignoring facts? 

Bowhead whales have an average lifespan of 200 years. They can survive this long because they have a very low body temperature — and the lower an animal's body temperature, the longer it can live.

The largest living species of tortoise that can survive well past a hundred, with the oldest recorded at 152. The most famous Galapagos Tortoise was 'Lonesome George', a sub species who lived on the Islands, he was 100 years old and still classed as a young adult! He had become an ambassador of sorts for the islands off the coast of Ecuador whose unique flora and fauna helped inspire Charles Darwin’s theories on evolution.

These sharks live farther north than any other shark species and some estimates put their lifespan at over 200 years. They also hold the world record for having the most toxic meat of any shark!

Koi fish usually live for 25-30 years but there are reports of kois that have achieved ages of 100–200 years. One famous koi in Japan, named "Hanako", died in 1977 and a study of the growth rings of one of her scales reported that she was 226!

Some collected specimens have been calculated to be more than 400 years old. These animals show exceptional longevity with a highest reported age, for ‘Ming’ the clam, of 507 years. It was collected alive by an expedition in 2006 so it may have lived even longer if left in the wild.

One who outlives them all, real name 'Turritopsis Dohrnii', this jellyfish is unique in that it exhibits a certain form of immortality; it can transform itself from an adult back into a baby through a process known as ‘transdifferentiation’, in which one type of cell transforms into another. The jellyfish turns itself into a blob-like cyst, which then develops into a polyp colony; this is the first stage in jellyfish life. Through asexual reproduction, the resulting polyp colony can spawn hundreds of genetically identical jellyfish - near perfect copies of the original adult.


We need to believe we control everything to give life a purpose, a planet a soul, and the human lifespan a measure of time for the ever changing weather...

[Hippie Tech]

Answer?  I said the numbers were readily available for a comparison, and that this has been studied (EG, "Urban Heat Island").

No, I am NOT seeing "weather became rather crazy gotta admit that."

I AM seeing massive amounts of media trying to convince people of that.

Sorry if you found my tone being agressive, it's just that I didn't see your answer and found the question interesting 

Well if you're not seeing weather becoming crazy it seems you don't go out a lot Oo
Weather is becoming more and more extreme, here is a chart of evolution of natural disasters :
http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=16/02/tjt5.png

I'm French, first time I ever see a winter without going in a negative temperature in my life. First neg temperature are coming this end of the week, you think it's all normal?

Maybe you have data I don't, but don't you think you're just ignoring facts? 

Of course they are ignoring the facts. Its what narcissistic psychopaths do best.

Forgive them for they have NPD and know not what they do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity, mentally unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and others.

[hdbuck]

Answer?  I said the numbers were readily available for a comparison, and that this has been studied (EG, "Urban Heat Island").

No, I am NOT seeing "weather became rather crazy gotta admit that."

I AM seeing massive amounts of media trying to convince people of that.

Sorry if you found my tone being agressive, it's just that I didn't see your answer and found the question interesting 

Well if you're not seeing weather becoming crazy it seems you don't go out a lot Oo
Weather is becoming more and more extreme, here is a chart of evolution of natural disasters :
http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=16/02/tjt5.png

I'm French, first time I ever see a winter without going in a negative temperature in my life. First neg temperature are coming this end of the week, you think it's all normal?

Maybe you have data I don't, but don't you think you're just ignoring facts? 

Of course they are ignoring the facts. Its what narcissistic psychopaths do best.

Forgive them for they have NPD and know not what they do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder

Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity, mentally unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and others.

Tax teh N(Y)PD!

[galdur]

People with narcissistic personality disorder are characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance. They have a sense of entitlement and demonstrate grandiosity in their beliefs and behavior. They have a strong need for admiration, but lack feelings of empathy.

Well, maybe it´s a variant of a psychopath, kind of diet-nutcase. Or maybe the focus currently is on these narcissists to draw attention from psychopaths, especially since it has become increasingly obvious that certain politicians are nutty as christmas cakes.

[flagpara]

Bowhead whales have an average lifespan of 200 years. They can survive this long because they have a very low body temperature — and the lower an animal's body temperature, the longer it can live.

The largest living species of tortoise that can survive well past a hundred, with the oldest recorded at 152. The most famous Galapagos Tortoise was 'Lonesome George', a sub species who lived on the Islands, he was 100 years old and still classed as a young adult! He had become an ambassador of sorts for the islands off the coast of Ecuador whose unique flora and fauna helped inspire Charles Darwin’s theories on evolution.

These sharks live farther north than any other shark species and some estimates put their lifespan at over 200 years. They also hold the world record for having the most toxic meat of any shark!

Koi fish usually live for 25-30 years but there are reports of kois that have achieved ages of 100–200 years. One famous koi in Japan, named "Hanako", died in 1977 and a study of the growth rings of one of her scales reported that she was 226!

Some collected specimens have been calculated to be more than 400 years old. These animals show exceptional longevity with a highest reported age, for ‘Ming’ the clam, of 507 years. It was collected alive by an expedition in 2006 so it may have lived even longer if left in the wild.

One who outlives them all, real name 'Turritopsis Dohrnii', this jellyfish is unique in that it exhibits a certain form of immortality; it can transform itself from an adult back into a baby through a process known as ‘transdifferentiation’, in which one type of cell transforms into another. The jellyfish turns itself into a blob-like cyst, which then develops into a polyp colony; this is the first stage in jellyfish life. Through asexual reproduction, the resulting polyp colony can spawn hundreds of genetically identical jellyfish - near perfect copies of the original adult.


We need to believe we control everything to give life a purpose, a planet a soul, and the human lifespan a measure of time for the ever changing weather...

OK...

So you're saying again "we don't know how can we know we're just humans"?

Going more ad more repetitive dudes, you don't have any other arguments? I'm starting to understand why reddit banned you 

With your mentality we never do anything. With your mentality human life isn't important and impacting enough to change anything. So we don't move in a common direction we just get thrown into a way we don't decide.

So what? We do nothing? Humans can't have an impact?

[strayanbit]

No-ones saying humans are the controlling everything, why don't you skepticscrazys go and campaign about vaccines or guns or something else you care deeply about. 
Soon enough, developed countries will have to begin taking in millions of climate refugees from low lying islands, which will make the current refugee crisis look like child's play.  But it will be too late then... and the carbon taxes you didnt want to pay, the petrol tax you didnt want to pay, those solar rebates you didnt want to pay will come and bite you in your ass.

[Spendulus]

No-ones saying humans are the controlling everything, why don't you skepticscrazys go and campaign about vaccines or guns or something else you care deeply about. 
Soon enough, developed countries will have to begin taking in millions of climate refugees from low lying islands, which will make the current refugee crisis look like child's play.  But it will be too late then... and the carbon taxes you didnt want to pay, the petrol tax you didnt want to pay, those solar rebates you didnt want to pay will come and bite you in your ass.

Wait, so governments can control the climate through our paying taxes?

Can they also change the orbits of the Moon and Jupiter?  If we just pay them the right amounts?

And did they tell you this?  And you believed them?

[strayanbit]

Governments can reduce the amount of carbon that is put into the air by making it a cost to business yes.
This is just one of several possible measures, what in your opinion would help?

[Spendulus]

Governments can reduce the amount of carbon that is put into the air by making it a cost to business yes.
This is just one of several possible measures, what in your opinion would help?

That is NOT the question I asked.  However, neither is it true.  We know that when England drives one of their last remaining steel plants out of business through onerous taxation (EG saving the planet through legislating money to government for carbon emissions, that more carbon emissions simply occur in China as the industry segment moves there.

So do you really believe that a strategy, that does not pass college Economics 101 level logic, is a "good?"

[ridery99]

Climate can not be denied because it means rain, sun and snow are hoaxes  

[flagpara]

Governments can reduce the amount of carbon that is put into the air by making it a cost to business yes.
This is just one of several possible measures, what in your opinion would help?

That is NOT the question I asked.  However, neither is it true.  We know that when England drives one of their last remaining steel plants out of business through onerous taxation (EG saving the planet through legislating money to government for carbon emissions, that more carbon emissions simply occur in China as the industry segment moves there.

So do you really believe that a strategy, that does not pass college Economics 101 level logic, is a "good?"

You ask question but don't answer the questions you're asked. What is your point then? Humans can't really have an impact on environment? That's what you're trying to say? It's all too big for us and we should let thing go on their own? 

[notbatman]

Yeah man has an impact on the environment, it's called geoengineering where they gas everything with chemtrails then microwave the shit out of it with haarp. Socialism takes care of the rest with wholesale slaughtering of just about every kind of life form. It then poisons all the oceans and fresh water sources with toxic waste and radioactivity.

CO2 as globe warming pollutant is a sick joke, not to mention we're not even living on a fucking globe you retards.

[Karartma1]

Actually, from the humidity, wind, and temperature record presented, it certainly does look like "front passage."  By the way, a more accurate number would be to go from (say) 12 noon one day, to 12 noon the next.  Or max min for the 2 days.  As presented there is likely 5C error in the range due to differing times.

By the way, you certainly can use statistical variance to determine significant variation from climatic norms.  All the records are available to do this, at least in the USA I know.  You can just use the last 30 years, that should be fine.

You know, even without all the scientific stuff, weather became rather crazy gotta admit that. Never had a winter like that truly xD

So don't know if it's mankind fault or not, but there is still something coming. And I don't think burning our fuel is helping reducing it!

Btw, you didn't answer on the heat produces by us compared to the sun, I'm still sure it's not that low you know?

I totally agree with you: humans are disturbing this planet's stability but... as George Carlin said once Nature will take its chance to regulate itself again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjfiIow-eW0

The trouble was never to destroy Nature, I'm pretty sure Nature will be fine with what we're doing.
But Nature "regulation" might not take mankind survival into account  

Of course! We have no power against something which is totally unknown to us. These guys can think they own the weather they can do some mess for a while on Earth but Earth/Nature eventually will clean itself. To me it will all end up in a big sneeze   and we'll be gone

[hdbuck]

Actually, from the humidity, wind, and temperature record presented, it certainly does look like "front passage."  By the way, a more accurate number would be to go from (say) 12 noon one day, to 12 noon the next.  Or max min for the 2 days.  As presented there is likely 5C error in the range due to differing times.

By the way, you certainly can use statistical variance to determine significant variation from climatic norms.  All the records are available to do this, at least in the USA I know.  You can just use the last 30 years, that should be fine.

You know, even without all the scientific stuff, weather became rather crazy gotta admit that. Never had a winter like that truly xD

So don't know if it's mankind fault or not, but there is still something coming. And I don't think burning our fuel is helping reducing it!

Btw, you didn't answer on the heat produces by us compared to the sun, I'm still sure it's not that low you know?

I totally agree with you: humans are disturbing this planet's stability but... as George Carlin said once Nature will take its chance to regulate itself again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjfiIow-eW0

The trouble was never to destroy Nature, I'm pretty sure Nature will be fine with what we're doing.
But Nature "regulation" might not take mankind survival into account  

Of course! We have no power against something which is totally unknown to us. These guys can think they own the weather they can do some mess for a while on Earth but Earth/Nature eventually will clean itself. To me it will all end up in a big sneeze   and we'll be gone

atchaaa!

[flagpara]

Actually, from the humidity, wind, and temperature record presented, it certainly does look like "front passage."  By the way, a more accurate number would be to go from (say) 12 noon one day, to 12 noon the next.  Or max min for the 2 days.  As presented there is likely 5C error in the range due to differing times.

By the way, you certainly can use statistical variance to determine significant variation from climatic norms.  All the records are available to do this, at least in the USA I know.  You can just use the last 30 years, that should be fine.

You know, even without all the scientific stuff, weather became rather crazy gotta admit that. Never had a winter like that truly xD

So don't know if it's mankind fault or not, but there is still something coming. And I don't think burning our fuel is helping reducing it!

Btw, you didn't answer on the heat produces by us compared to the sun, I'm still sure it's not that low you know?

I totally agree with you: humans are disturbing this planet's stability but... as George Carlin said once Nature will take its chance to regulate itself again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjfiIow-eW0

The trouble was never to destroy Nature, I'm pretty sure Nature will be fine with what we're doing.
But Nature "regulation" might not take mankind survival into account  

Of course! We have no power against something which is totally unknown to us. These guys can think they own the weather they can do some mess for a while on Earth but Earth/Nature eventually will clean itself. To me it will all end up in a big sneeze   and we'll be gone

atchaaa!

DUDE!!!!

Don't freak me out like this 

[Spendulus]

Governments can reduce the amount of carbon that is put into the air by making it a cost to business yes.
This is just one of several possible measures, what in your opinion would help?

That is NOT the question I asked.  However, neither is it true.  We know that when England drives one of their last remaining steel plants out of business through onerous taxation (EG saving the planet through legislating money to government for carbon emissions, that more carbon emissions simply occur in China as the industry segment moves there.

So do you really believe that a strategy, that does not pass college Economics 101 level logic, is a "good?"

You ask question but don't answer the questions you're asked. What is your point then? Humans can't really have an impact on environment? That's what you're trying to say? It's all too big for us and we should let thing go on their own? 

RE whether joule count of human fuel use affects climate, even rabid Warmers don't claim this.  Check the IPCC reports for example.

Humans obviously have regional impacts on environment.

Feeling good by way of giving taxes to your government has nothing to do with the Earth's temperature series.  Nothing.  This has been calculated time after time.

If you deny that, then who is the denier?

[flagpara]

You ask question but don't answer the questions you're asked. What is your point then? Humans can't really have an impact on environment? That's what you're trying to say? It's all too big for us and we should let thing go on their own? 

RE whether joule count of human fuel use affects climate, even rabid Warmers don't claim this.  Check the IPCC reports for example.

Humans obviously have regional impacts on environment.

Feeling good by way of giving taxes to your government has nothing to do with the Earth's temperature series.  Nothing.  This has been calculated time after time.

If you deny that, then who is the denier?

Joule count of human fuel was not the question I was talking about, it was merely a philosophical question I'm not claiming anything.

What I am asking is: do you really believe that humans have no global impact on environment?

It's an easy Yes or No question man 

[Spendulus]

You ask question but don't answer the questions you're asked. What is your point then? Humans can't really have an impact on environment? That's what you're trying to say? It's all too big for us and we should let thing go on their own? 

RE whether joule count of human fuel use affects climate, even rabid Warmers don't claim this.  Check the IPCC reports for example.

Humans obviously have regional impacts on environment.

Feeling good by way of giving taxes to your government has nothing to do with the Earth's temperature series.  Nothing.  This has been calculated time after time.

If you deny that, then who is the denier?

Joule count of human fuel was not the question I was talking about, it was merely a philosophical question I'm not claiming anything.

What I am asking is: do you really believe that humans have no global impact on environment?

It's an easy Yes or No question man 

  Sure, I will answer your rigged question.

The answer is of course humans have an impact on the earth, and the subset of the earth known as the environment.  We have an effect on the entire universe at least for a hundred light year radius.  Just think, we've polluted that sphere with traces of our radio waves.

Your question is rigged by way of the Zero.  If we had 1.7 10^-15C effect on temperature, then the answer would be YES.  Therefore, for a universe with one cockroach, that cockroach would have an effect on the universe, measurable out to a light cone whose distance is proportional to it's age.   

What you really want to address, I would think, is something like "a significant impact" or "a statistically significant impact."

These are really the practical questions. 

[flagpara]

Joule count of human fuel was not the question I was talking about, it was merely a philosophical question I'm not claiming anything.

What I am asking is: do you really believe that humans have no global impact on environment?

It's an easy Yes or No question man 

  Sure, I will answer your rigged question.

The answer is of course humans have an impact on the earth, and the subset of the earth known as the environment.  We have an effect on the entire universe at least for a hundred light year radius.  Just think, we've polluted that sphere with traces of our radio waves.

Your question is rigged by way of the Zero.  If we had 1.7 10^-15C effect on temperature, then the answer would be YES.  Therefore, for a universe with one cockroach, that cockroach would have an effect on the universe, measurable out to a light cone whose distance is proportional to it's age.   

What you really want to address, I would think, is something like "a significant impact" or "a statistically significant impact."

These are really the practical questions. 

It was not meant to be rigged, not everything is a hidden attack 

Of course the idea was "significant"! But you're misled in my attempt. What I wanted to show is not that human have a significant impact.

Only two solution:
-we have a significant impact. Then it's important to control this impact and to be aware of it. Thus your position is a bit weird as you promote the inaction or at least the non coordinated action.
-We don't have a significant impact, then why not letting us trying to control it? It won't hurt anyone to try to be ecolo friendly even is it might be a bit useless no?

It's a bit like the Pascal bet, but with much less flaws