8th Alt coin thread. Or what to do now that asics are all over the place.

[philipma1957]

I'm off XMR v8, its not worth the extra time tweaking, heat, and power draw.  Also I have seen quiet a few posts of people frying their Vegas because they were already pushing to the max of what the GPU can handle, so be careful.

seems pretty good with a ryzen 1920 cpu

but my vegas crashed often

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[adaseb]

I'm still seeing well over 27 Mhash on ETH on my R9 290s - I suspect it's more the sheer size of the DAG file that is making them slow down from the about 30 they managed 2 years ago, more than TLB thrashing.
No, they're not running at stock clocks - though I did have to run them at stock core clock this summer due to the long-running serious heat wave we had for more like 25 Mhash.

What settings do you use?

They have one of TheStilt bioses on them (I forget which level of undervolt offhand) and I usually run them at 1100/1450 when they don't overheat at that setting.
Sapphire reference models with the blower - which blows an amazing amount of air, I had one die and replaced it with a Delta "screamer" 68cfm regular fan and it was blowing noticeably LESS air.

Maybe yours had a better ASIC quality however I could never get any of them to run at 1100mhz, the most I could get is 1050mhz and it used tons of electricity and tons of heat even when undervolted to the max.

It seems that you can probably sell a R9 290 on eBay and buy an RX 470/570 with some cash to spare, seems like its a better bet these days especially when on stock clock these are hitting 23.5mh/s these days and with an RX 470 you can get 28MH/s easily.

[citronick]

I'm off XMR v8, its not worth the extra time tweaking, heat, and power draw.  Also I have seen quiet a few posts of people frying their Vegas because they were already pushing to the max of what the GPU can handle, so be careful.

All my Vega rigs are also off v8 -- I think the devs are overdoing it and I dont think they can make a u-turn that easily since they were adamant on changing algos every 6 months.

At the end of day, I am in favor of NOT blindly following fluffypony's strategy to be "different" by just making tweaks to CN7 making CN8 inefficient, power unfriendly to miners etc.

I hope XMR's future wont end up like ETN's  - where they had to abandon their CN fork and go back to vanilla CN... https://cryptobriefing.com/electroneum-fork-asics-etn-network/

Several CN7 variants like Stellite, Graft, Bittube, Quantum Ledger, Haven, Loki etc -- looking good as far project viability is concerned. Since mining Haven at below $1 awhile back, I am happy that my stash now is worth more - XHV $1.69 as I type.

Until a CN7 Asics comes around..... I will put my remaining GPU farm on CN7 purely on the power factor and keep them GPUs cool and happy.

[Marvell2]

Our very own Marvell2 has kindly provided his private pool infrastructure for any friends of this thread to mine Ravencoin (RVN) on. The benefit is it's a PPS pool that doesn't skim your shares so payouts are consistently better than any commercial pool out there.

We're gradually adding workers to it. Expecting to have 4 GH by the end of the day. More if many of you join us!
Don't expect to find several blocks a day (it's a small fish in a big pond) but over time, this will earn you more than any other pool out there.

Pool ip and RVN port: stratum+tcp://67.40.164.169:12345
Vardiff works, just takes a minute or two to kick in.

I have moved a few GPU over to test to see if it is more profitable.

Raven pool is up to 1800ghd, we neen more hash , its far more profitable in a small pool than those large pools
way lower fees too

[Marvell2]

I'm off XMR v8, its not worth the extra time tweaking, heat, and power draw.  Also I have seen quiet a few posts of people frying their Vegas because they were already pushing to the max of what the GPU can handle, so be careful.

All my Vega rigs are also off v8 -- I think the devs are overdoing it and I dont think they can make a u-turn that easily since they were adamant on changing algos every 6 months.

At the end of day, I am in favor of NOT blindly following fluffypony's strategy to be "different" by just making tweaks to CN7 making CN8 inefficient, power unfriendly to miners etc.

I hope XMR's future wont end up like ETN's  - where they had to abandon their CN fork and go back to vanilla CN... https://cryptobriefing.com/electroneum-fork-asics-etn-network/

Several CN7 variants like Stellite, Graft, Bittube, Quantum Ledger, Haven, Loki etc -- looking good as far project viability is concerned. Since mining Haven at below $1 awhile back, I am happy that my stash now is worth more - XHV $1.69 as I type.

Until a CN7 Asics comes around..... I will put my remaining GPU farm on CN7 purely on the power factor and keep them GPUs cool and happy.

I was running ethereum with all my Amd gear so the power use is not a big difference for me to switch to v8
it lolks like its still 50 percent more profitable to mine xmr v8 vs ethereum so Im one of the few happy folks i guess lol

[Miguelgreen]

I keep on V8 but the hash drop from 5150k to 3700k
From claymore to xmr stack. But even with 3700k the stats show i make more xmrThat when i have Higher hash. Lets see Next couple days.
I Will have to perform dual threath if i want more hash.
Power its arround the same now but with a lot less hash.
Measure on wall.
I like project like graft and Stellite so lets see.

[Dolmater]

I keep on V8 but the hash drop from 5150k to 3700k
From claymore to xmr stack. But even with 3700k the stats show i make more xmrThat when i have Higher hash. Lets see Next couple days.
I Will have to perform dual threath if i want more hash.
Power its arround the same now but with a lot less hash.
Measure on wall.
I like project like graft and Stellite so lets see.

Do you use the R9 290/390 or other cards?


I use the 390, with XMR stak.

The core/mem is 830/1000MHz. I found there is no difference between 1000 and 1250MHz in the memory clock.

The hash rate is about 600H/s. In order to achieve that speed, I have to change the "worksize" : to 16, let it run a while (hash rate is about 570H/s), then stop the miner and  change it to 8.

I only run them using 1 thread.

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },


  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : false
  },

[Miguelgreen]

I keep on V8 but the hash drop from 5150k to 3700k
From claymore to xmr stack. But even with 3700k the stats show i make more xmrThat when i have Higher hash. Lets see Next couple days.
I Will have to perform dual threath if i want more hash.
Power its arround the same now but with a lot less hash.
Measure on wall.
I like project like graft and Stellite so lets see.

Do you use the R9 290/390 or other cards?


I use the 390, with XMR stak.

The core/mem is 830/1000MHz. I found there is no difference between 1000 and 1250MHz in the memory clock.

The hash rate is about 600H/s. In order to achieve that speed, I have to change the "worksize" : to 16, let it run a while (hash rate is about 570H/s), then stop the miner and  change it to 8.

I only run them using 1 thread.

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },


  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : false
  },

No, i have 6 RX 570 4gb with BIOS mod for etherium.
Simplemining OS and nanopool pool.
My hash its arround 600H/s this morning for each card. Total 3575H/s arround this. However in nanopool says Higher hash on stats dont know why. Arround 4200H/s
Never drop from 4000H/s since fork on stats on nanopool.

[Technicrate]

I keep on V8 but the hash drop from 5150k to 3700k
From claymore to xmr stack. But even with 3700k the stats show i make more xmrThat when i have Higher hash. Lets see Next couple days.
I Will have to perform dual threath if i want more hash.
Power its arround the same now but with a lot less hash.
Measure on wall.
I like project like graft and Stellite so lets see.

Do you use the R9 290/390 or other cards?


I use the 390, with XMR stak.

The core/mem is 830/1000MHz. I found there is no difference between 1000 and 1250MHz in the memory clock.

The hash rate is about 600H/s. In order to achieve that speed, I have to change the "worksize" : to 16, let it run a while (hash rate is about 570H/s), then stop the miner and  change it to 8.

I only run them using 1 thread.

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },


  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : false
  },

No, i have 6 RX 570 4gb with BIOS mod for etherium.
Simplemining OS and nanopool pool.
My hash its arround 600H/s this morning for each card. Total 3575H/s arround this. However in nanopool says Higher hash on stats dont know why. Arround 4200H/s
Never drop from 4000H/s since fork on stats on nanopool.

What is the power usage for the around 4k hash rate? Is that higher than V7?

[Miguelgreen]

I keep on V8 but the hash drop from 5150k to 3700k
From claymore to xmr stack. But even with 3700k the stats show i make more xmrThat when i have Higher hash. Lets see Next couple days.
I Will have to perform dual threath if i want more hash.
Power its arround the same now but with a lot less hash.
Measure on wall.
I like project like graft and Stellite so lets see.

Do you use the R9 290/390 or other cards?


I use the 390, with XMR stak.

The core/mem is 830/1000MHz. I found there is no difference between 1000 and 1250MHz in the memory clock.

The hash rate is about 600H/s. In order to achieve that speed, I have to change the "worksize" : to 16, let it run a while (hash rate is about 570H/s), then stop the miner and  change it to 8.

I only run them using 1 thread.

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },


  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : false
  },

No, i have 6 RX 570 4gb with BIOS mod for etherium.
Simplemining OS and nanopool pool.
My hash its arround 600H/s this morning for each card. Total 3575H/s arround this. However in nanopool says Higher hash on stats dont know why. Arround 4200H/s
Never drop from 4000H/s since fork on stats on nanopool.

What is the power usage for the around 4k hash rate? Is that higher than V7?

Yes it is. Before i have arround 650/660 watts. Now its arround 700watts measure on the wall.
Pretty hight since hash drop a lot.
My rig also have two power source so it consume a litle more That rigs with only one power source.

[dragonmike]

Phil, hate to be right, but look at the BCI price now.

The HitBTC was completely bogus. We're basically trading under a dollar a coin now. At least with RVN you have a proper market.

Btw Marvell2's pool now has 6.5 GH net hash. We've already found 3 blocks!
We need a bit more, ideally, as total network hash has grown. We can't just leave it all to our amazing luck!

[philipma1957]

Phil, hate to be right, but look at the BCI price now.

The HitBTC was completely bogus. We're basically trading under a dollar a coin now. At least with RVN you have a proper market.

Btw Marvell2's pool now has 6.5 GH net hash. We've already found 3 blocks!
We need a bit more, ideally, as total network hash has grown. We can't just leave it all to our amazing luck!

you are far too short term  I am committed to mining BCI until I mine 1000 coins.

[ATCkit2]

Our very own Marvell2 has kindly provided his private pool infrastructure for any friends of this thread to mine Ravencoin (RVN) on. The benefit is it's a PPS pool that doesn't skim your shares so payouts are consistently better than any commercial pool out there.

We're gradually adding workers to it. Expecting to have 4 GH by the end of the day. More if many of you join us!
Don't expect to find several blocks a day (it's a small fish in a big pond) but over time, this will earn you more than any other pool out there.

Pool ip and RVN port: stratum+tcp://67.40.164.169:12345
Vardiff works, just takes a minute or two to kick in.

Thx-moving 2 rigs over.

[dragonmike]

Phil, hate to be right, but look at the BCI price now.

The HitBTC was completely bogus. We're basically trading under a dollar a coin now. At least with RVN you have a proper market.

Btw Marvell2's pool now has 6.5 GH net hash. We've already found 3 blocks!
We need a bit more, ideally, as total network hash has grown. We can't just leave it all to our amazing luck!

you are far too short term  I am committed to mining BCI until I mine 1000 coins.

I beg to differ.
In terms of immediate profitability, BCI is not on top of the charts. So if your goal is to accumulate BCI, theoretically you'd be better off mining something more profitable and exchanging that coin for BCI. You'd get more.

If you mine because you want to support the BCI network, then that's another thing alltogether

[ATCkit2]

I keep on V8 but the hash drop from 5150k to 3700k
From claymore to xmr stack. But even with 3700k the stats show i make more xmrThat when i have Higher hash. Lets see Next couple days.
I Will have to perform dual threath if i want more hash.
Power its arround the same now but with a lot less hash.
Measure on wall.
I like project like graft and Stellite so lets see.

Do you use the R9 290/390 or other cards?


I use the 390, with XMR stak.

The core/mem is 830/1000MHz. I found there is no difference between 1000 and 1250MHz in the memory clock.

The hash rate is about 600H/s. In order to achieve that speed, I have to change the "worksize" : to 16, let it run a while (hash rate is about 570H/s), then stop the miner and  change it to 8.

I only run them using 1 thread.

"gpu_threads_conf" : [
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 0,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 1,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },
  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 2,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : true
  },


  // gpu: Hawaii memory:3920
  // compute units: 40
  { "index" : 3,
    "intensity" : 1280, "worksize" : 8,
    "affine_to_cpu" : false, "strided_index" : 2, "mem_chunk" : 2,
    "unroll" : 8, "comp_mode" : false
  },

No, i have 6 RX 570 4gb with BIOS mod for etherium.
Simplemining OS and nanopool pool.
My hash its arround 600H/s this morning for each card. Total 3575H/s arround this. However in nanopool says Higher hash on stats dont know why. Arround 4200H/s
Never drop from 4000H/s since fork on stats on nanopool.

Check out SavageMine's info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.msg46741144#msg46741144

His you tube tutorial worked for me. I"m getting over 740 H/s on 470s. I haven't tried doing for my Nvidia rigs. They're pretty happy ming RVN at  this time.

[philipma1957]

Phil, hate to be right, but look at the BCI price now.

The HitBTC was completely bogus. We're basically trading under a dollar a coin now. At least with RVN you have a proper market.

Btw Marvell2's pool now has 6.5 GH net hash. We've already found 3 blocks!
We need a bit more, ideally, as total network hash has grown. We can't just leave it all to our amazing luck!

you are far too short term  I am committed to mining BCI until I mine 1000 coins.

I beg to differ.
In terms of immediate profitability, BCI is not on top of the charts. So if your goal is to accumulate BCI, theoretically you'd be better off mining something more profitable and exchanging that coin for BCI. You'd get more.

If you mine because you want to support the BCI network, then that's another thing alltogether

Mining directly to a core wallet  has  tax advantages  that work for me.

I get that mining raven makes more money short term for me. But it causes more tax issues if I sell it for BCI

But mining bci to a wallet  and never cashing it makes for a less complex tax return for me when I do my 2018 return next april.

Remember it is a world wide game and being subject to different tax laws  makes a difference in mining strategy.

[WillJ7]

I'm off XMR v8, its not worth the extra time tweaking, heat, and power draw.  Also I have seen quiet a few posts of people frying their Vegas because they were already pushing to the max of what the GPU can handle, so be careful.

I'm in the minority, but this went smoothly for me.  I've been blocking Windows updates for a while, I did use AMDpixelpatcher 1.4.6 and restarted.  I do apply SoftPowerPlay mods.  I did dial back intensity both in the startup file (Cast intensity set to 7) and using ONT 0.2.6  P7 1386  P2 1050.  Adrenaline drivers 18.5.2

https://gyazo.com/fa5f8967ab6f199a4a7006edec69233b

6 Vega Reference 56s flashed with the 64 bios; one Sapphire Pulse 56.  Knock on wood, I guess.  Nanopool 6 hour average total when divided by 7 cards works out to 1,860 per card.  Cast reports 1,770 to 1,800.  I put the details in the Cast thread, right at the end.

[dragonmike]

Phil, hate to be right, but look at the BCI price now.

The HitBTC was completely bogus. We're basically trading under a dollar a coin now. At least with RVN you have a proper market.

Btw Marvell2's pool now has 6.5 GH net hash. We've already found 3 blocks!
We need a bit more, ideally, as total network hash has grown. We can't just leave it all to our amazing luck!

you are far too short term  I am committed to mining BCI until I mine 1000 coins.

I beg to differ.
In terms of immediate profitability, BCI is not on top of the charts. So if your goal is to accumulate BCI, theoretically you'd be better off mining something more profitable and exchanging that coin for BCI. You'd get more.

If you mine because you want to support the BCI network, then that's another thing alltogether

Mining directly to a core wallet  has  tax advantages  that work for me.

I get that mining raven makes more money short term for me. But it causes more tax issues if I sell it for BCI

But mining bci to a wallet  and never cashing it makes for a less complex tax return for me when I do my 2018 return next april.

Remember it is a world wide game and being subject to different tax laws  makes a difference in mining strategy.

Gotcha.

Meanwhile, RVN is going through the roof... And we're finding blocks on the private pool (despite network hashrate going bonkers). Best of all worlds at the moment. Well, it's not 2017 just yet, but we've had worse mining days!

[QuintLeo]

I'm still seeing well over 27 Mhash on ETH on my R9 290s - I suspect it's more the sheer size of the DAG file that is making them slow down from the about 30 they managed 2 years ago, more than TLB thrashing.
No, they're not running at stock clocks - though I did have to run them at stock core clock this summer due to the long-running serious heat wave we had for more like 25 Mhash.

What settings do you use?

They have one of TheStilt bioses on them (I forget which level of undervolt offhand) and I usually run them at 1100/1450 when they don't overheat at that setting.
Sapphire reference models with the blower - which blows an amazing amount of air, I had one die and replaced it with a Delta "screamer" 68cfm regular fan and it was blowing noticeably LESS air.

Maybe yours had a better ASIC quality however I could never get any of them to run at 1100mhz, the most I could get is 1050mhz and it used tons of electricity and tons of heat even when undervolted to the max.

It seems that you can probably sell a R9 290 on eBay and buy an RX 470/570 with some cash to spare, seems like its a better bet these days especially when on stock clock these are hitting 23.5mh/s these days and with an RX 470 you can get 28MH/s easily.

They still run hot, but they never managed to stay at stock clocks without overheating and throttling before I put TheStilt BIOS on them.
I don't deal with eBay - had way too many issues back when I did sell stuff there, ended up losing too much money over bogus "bad item" complaints - and don't even get me STARTED on their insistance on Paypal when I was a member of the class of the FIRST class action lawsuit against THAT ripoff company. There's a reason eBay SOLD Paypal back off - WAY too many legal complaints and problems and lack of profitability when Paypal is forced to operate LEGALLY.

[95do]

bzedge going great. zhash algo