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October 22, 2018, 11:44:38 PM
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You can trade BCI on stex.com (formerly stocks.exchange), but I've never had a positive experience with them and they have a bit of a shady reputation.  I'd wait for hitbtc or bitfenix to open their wallets again personally.

never had issue with stex. I mine,deposit, trade, and withdraw almost every other day
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October 23, 2018, 08:44:00 AM
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You can trade BCI on stex.com (formerly stocks.exchange), but I've never had a positive experience with them and they have a bit of a shady reputation.  I'd wait for hitbtc or bitfenix to open their wallets again personally.

never had issue with stex. I mine,deposit, trade, and withdraw almost every other day

trade volume very low, price is way too low to sell imo , need at least $5
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October 23, 2018, 12:31:00 PM
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You can trade BCI on stex.com (formerly stocks.exchange), but I've never had a positive experience with them and they have a bit of a shady reputation.  I'd wait for hitbtc or bitfenix to open their wallets again personally.

never had issue with stex. I mine,deposit, trade, and withdraw almost every other day

trade volume very low, price is way too low to sell imo , need at least $5

I mine and stake BCI  I don't sell it.

RVN  crashed a lot.  I was holding 5350 of them I sold 1350 at 0.00000914 yesterday.
It is now at 0.00000751

With BCI I am looking to hold 1000 staked monthly  long term.

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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October 24, 2018, 01:12:41 AM
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You can trade BCI on stex.com (formerly stocks.exchange), but I've never had a positive experience with them and they have a bit of a shady reputation.  I'd wait for hitbtc or bitfenix to open their wallets again personally.

never had issue with stex. I mine,deposit, trade, and withdraw almost every other day

trade volume very low, price is way too low to sell imo , need at least $5

I mine and stake BCI  I don't sell it.

RVN  crashed a lot.  I was holding 5350 of them I sold 1350 at 0.00000914 yesterday.
It is now at 0.00000751

With BCI I am looking to hold 1000 staked monthly  long term.

Me personally;  Im only mining XMR CN8, and a little X16R here and there to keep my balance on zpool from getting wiped out after a 3 month period.... eventually ill get another payout there ot be mining there 100% again.

Ive been staking one coin;  my main investment.   I bought it at the bottom of the barrel;  when I had been buying and selling it in the past when it was 10-20x the price it currently is.... and its on its way back up.
Staking initially with ~36000 coins;  I am now at 46115 coins a few months later.  If I sold my staking earnings right now;  I would pay off what my investment was.

I currently hold 1.5% of the supply.   The project is still under slow development, and Its begun to be bought and sold on the exchange again in a semi-regular manner.

But for now;  its all about taking nibbles and saving coins.     If the past taught me anything;   it's that a breakout period will be coming again, and its up to us to be patient and wait for the proper times to "play" the market for us plebs.

YoBit is not to be trusted.   They magically show volume that is 10-100x the amount of coins that the total network has on a certain shitcoin;  and it all happened while the wallet was "offline" and about half of the actual coins in the network are in private wallets.

Be warned;  stay away from them.  -JK
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October 24, 2018, 05:14:54 AM
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I am still on XHV (CN7-Heavy) --- the switch to CN8 didnt last long because less hash and more power, so back to XHV.

Started mining it when diff was low and was just under 1$..... now its 2.50$ which is crazy

Btw, I have pointed my old Baikal ASICs to solo pools for DeepOnion (X13) and DGB (Qubit) - BSOD pool have made it so easy to mine solo all coins they have listed in the poolsite.

You can even solo pool RVN or do a PARTY feature where you can mine together with predetermine miners that matches a group password.

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m=party.YOUR_PARTY_PASSWORD in password field, so it would look like this:
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October 24, 2018, 09:29:03 AM
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for my small farm($0.17/kwH):
22 gtx1070
12 gtx1060
18 rx570
4 rx580

what would you guys recommend to mine i.e. most profitable coin?

nvidia GPU: RVN or nicehash-x16r with z-enemy miner

amd GPU: XHV or XMR with XMRStak miner?

none of the above?

tnx
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October 24, 2018, 06:25:01 PM
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GTX 1070 the last couple weeks has been bouncing between ETH and Ravencoin for highest profitability on the major coins but it's been VERY close - normally less than 1 cent per day difference.

Don't have any 1060s or 5xx series AMDs.


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October 24, 2018, 09:23:33 PM
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for my small farm($0.17/kwH):
22 gtx1070
12 gtx1060
18 rx570
4 rx580

what would you guys recommend to mine i.e. most profitable coin?

nvidia GPU: RVN or nicehash-x16r with z-enemy miner

amd GPU: XHV or XMR with XMRStak miner?

none of the above?

tnx

Your electricity cost is FREAKIN' expensive.

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October 24, 2018, 10:45:44 PM
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What is everyone's theory on AMD and Nvidia's stock price. Basically today AMD opened at $25 and after their earnings release it tanked all the way to down to $17, basically a 32% intraday loss, which is considered normal for Crypto but for a stock is horrible.

Who here thinks AMD is going to start buying up Cryptos like ETH and XMR to boost sales on their GPU chips next quarter?

Its been a big rumor that when AMD was down last November, they started buying up Cryptos to bring huge demand to their GPUs and by Dec-January cryptos hit new highs and all the GPUs were sold off the shelves.

AMD peaked earlier this year at $34 so its down roughtly 50% while NVIDIA peaked at almost $300 and its currently $200.

So take a stock like NVDA which has a current market cap of $120B and AMD of $20B. Is it cheaper to buy say $1B worth of ETH and cause the price of ETH to go to a new ATH and instead boost the price of their stock by $60B?

What do all the conspiracy theorists conclude?

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October 24, 2018, 11:06:33 PM
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for my small farm($0.17/kwH):
22 gtx1070
12 gtx1060
18 rx570
4 rx580

what would you guys recommend to mine i.e. most profitable coin?

nvidia GPU: RVN or nicehash-x16r with z-enemy miner

amd GPU: XHV or XMR with XMRStak miner?

none of the above?

tnx

Your electricity cost is FREAKIN' expensive.
You wouldn't believe, that I am mining at $0.22KwH. That's a record.  Cheesy

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October 25, 2018, 02:45:56 AM
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What is everyone's theory on AMD and Nvidia's stock price. Basically today AMD opened at $25 and after their earnings release it tanked all the way to down to $17, basically a 32% intraday loss, which is considered normal for Crypto but for a stock is horrible.

Who here thinks AMD is going to start buying up Cryptos like ETH and XMR to boost sales on their GPU chips next quarter?

Its been a big rumor that when AMD was down last November, they started buying up Cryptos to bring huge demand to their GPUs and by Dec-January cryptos hit new highs and all the GPUs were sold off the shelves.

AMD peaked earlier this year at $34 so its down roughtly 50% while NVIDIA peaked at almost $300 and its currently $200.

So take a stock like NVDA which has a current market cap of $120B and AMD of $20B. Is it cheaper to buy say $1B worth of ETH and cause the price of ETH to go to a new ATH and instead boost the price of their stock by $60B?

What do all the conspiracy theorists conclude?

I like your thoughts on this. I've said before that I think AMD's and NVDA's surges were mostly due to the crypto boom. I understand why NVDA would always say that their increased profits were due to gaming demand to hide this fact from investors, but I'm still not convinced they can tell the difference between a miner like me last year swiping up GPU's in MC or Newegg or Amazon w friends to get around the quantity limits vs. an actual gamer.

How they could possibly parse gaming demand from the actual mining demand is beyond me, and I think the surges were much more reliant on crypto than they let on, and now sales are stagnating for obvious reasons.

That being what it is, I also wondered how long NVDA and AMD were going to sit on the sidelines and watch bitmain come in and strip out and carve out all the algos NVDA and AMD were in demand for with the new ASICs. The equihash ASICs wrecked already teetering NVDA gpu profitability. I would have thought NVDA and AMD might have gotten a little more proactive in at least subtly backing "ASIC-resistant" algos or forks to tank ASIC'd algos... maybe they were, who really knows.

I am a little more keen on AMD just because they have made big strides with their Ryzen CPUs and I do think they can gain market share on the CPU side, even if their GPU sales underperform.

However, so much of these things are driven by the economy at large beyond what AMD and NVDA actually do that I don't know what might happen. Will have to watch the bond market and the interest rates... the price to earnings ratios of so many of these companies is so massively out of whack with historical ratios that if there is flight to bonds the stock market might continue to take these hits on a broad scale. Not to mention the increased cost of servicing corporate debt.
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October 25, 2018, 03:13:07 AM
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What is everyone's theory on AMD and Nvidia's stock price. Basically today AMD opened at $25 and after their earnings release it tanked all the way to down to $17, basically a 32% intraday loss, which is considered normal for Crypto but for a stock is horrible.

Who here thinks AMD is going to start buying up Cryptos like ETH and XMR to boost sales on their GPU chips next quarter?

Its been a big rumor that when AMD was down last November, they started buying up Cryptos to bring huge demand to their GPUs and by Dec-January cryptos hit new highs and all the GPUs were sold off the shelves.

AMD peaked earlier this year at $34 so its down roughtly 50% while NVIDIA peaked at almost $300 and its currently $200.

So take a stock like NVDA which has a current market cap of $120B and AMD of $20B. Is it cheaper to buy say $1B worth of ETH and cause the price of ETH to go to a new ATH and instead boost the price of their stock by $60B?

What do all the conspiracy theorists conclude?

I have said this time and time again crypto does not work as we  without robust gpu coins.

They should buy BCI as it uses progpow which is dirt cheap and asic resistant for the moment.

This is why I have been mining only BCI it has a tiny market cap. And can be pumped like mad.

And the 2080 mines it well.

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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October 25, 2018, 03:14:23 AM
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What is everyone's theory on AMD and Nvidia's stock price. Basically today AMD opened at $25 and after their earnings release it tanked all the way to down to $17, basically a 32% intraday loss, which is considered normal for Crypto but for a stock is horrible.

Who here thinks AMD is going to start buying up Cryptos like ETH and XMR to boost sales on their GPU chips next quarter?

Its been a big rumor that when AMD was down last November, they started buying up Cryptos to bring huge demand to their GPUs and by Dec-January cryptos hit new highs and all the GPUs were sold off the shelves.

AMD peaked earlier this year at $34 so its down roughtly 50% while NVIDIA peaked at almost $300 and its currently $200.

So take a stock like NVDA which has a current market cap of $120B and AMD of $20B. Is it cheaper to buy say $1B worth of ETH and cause the price of ETH to go to a new ATH and instead boost the price of their stock by $60B?

What do all the conspiracy theorists conclude?

Without being insulting, I think the people who hold these theories are grossly uninformed.  Before I say anything further, I think this needs to be read:  http://fortune.com/2018/10/24/tech-stocks-nasdaq-s-and-p-market-correction/

Everything is down.  AMD is down because they had weak sales last quarter and they had previously stated mining accounted for 10% of total revenue, that has obviously gone from 10 to 0. They also have a bleaker outlook;  No new gaming GPUs and datacenter gpus aren't available yet. Now with that being said, market cap does not equal cash on hand.  Market Cap is the total value of all outstanding stocks.  AMD does not have a billion dollars laying around to buy ETH with.  If they did, they wouldn't buy ETH with it.  They manufacture hardware, not invest in crypto.

Also,  AMD did not have a 32% intraday loss.  It opened at $25.04 and closed at $22.79.  That's less than 10%
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October 25, 2018, 03:26:40 AM
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What is everyone's theory on AMD and Nvidia's stock price. Basically today AMD opened at $25 and after their earnings release it tanked all the way to down to $17, basically a 32% intraday loss, which is considered normal for Crypto but for a stock is horrible.

Who here thinks AMD is going to start buying up Cryptos like ETH and XMR to boost sales on their GPU chips next quarter?

Its been a big rumor that when AMD was down last November, they started buying up Cryptos to bring huge demand to their GPUs and by Dec-January cryptos hit new highs and all the GPUs were sold off the shelves.

AMD peaked earlier this year at $34 so its down roughtly 50% while NVIDIA peaked at almost $300 and its currently $200.

So take a stock like NVDA which has a current market cap of $120B and AMD of $20B. Is it cheaper to buy say $1B worth of ETH and cause the price of ETH to go to a new ATH and instead boost the price of their stock by $60B?

What do all the conspiracy theorists conclude?

Without being insulting, I think the people who hold these theories are grossly uninformed.  Before I say anything further, I think this needs to be read:  http://fortune.com/2018/10/24/tech-stocks-nasdaq-s-and-p-market-correction/

Everything is down.  AMD is down because they had weak sales last quarter and they had previously stated mining accounted for 10% of total revenue, that has obviously gone from 10 to 0. They also have a bleaker outlook;  No new gaming GPUs and datacenter gpus aren't available yet. Now with that being said, market cap does not equal cash on hand.  Market Cap is the total value of all outstanding stocks.  AMD does not have a billion dollars laying around to buy ETH with.  If they did, they wouldn't buy ETH with it.  They manufacture hardware, not invest in crypto.


 BCI has only  16 million value

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-interest/

Market Cap
$16,244,323 USD
2,524 BTC

Volume (24h)
$1,819 USD
0.28 BTC



So a pump is easy peasy.  And the 2080  does 24mh  which is higher then the 1080ti's 20mh  

 So to not pump BCI  would be bad  business for NVIDA.


If the price went from 88 cents to 20 dollars  2080s will fly off the shelfs


Since exchange handle was so  tiny    I am stunned  this is yet to happen.

I won't say nsummy is wrong
I won't say adaseb is close to correct  in an ETH pump

I will say  pumping BCI is childs play  so my guess is mine BCI  and hope I am correct.

What  value does BCI have? It uses progpow  which favors RTX 2080   which means NVIDA should pump it to sell their new 2080's.

Yeah  that is how a gpu algo favored coin has value it can boost the sales of gpu's this a simple economic fact.


XMR  tried  by making new algo but  it has a ton of value  so a pump costs $$

ETH  may go progpow  but a pump costs $$$$

BCI is progpow  and a pump is so fucking easy to do  it is something  I could do.  I could spend 20,000 usd and boost  its price close to 2 dollars.


I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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October 25, 2018, 03:35:01 AM
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Yeah Phil the economic argument is solid but NVIDIA may not do the pump.
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October 25, 2018, 03:39:32 AM
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One never knows if a pump will occur even when it lays out right in front of you like a road map with a line printed on it be followed it does not mean it will happen.

BTW raven pump would also be doable for NVIDIA but not more costly.

As market cap is 100,000,000usd  and yesterday’s volume was 92,000,000

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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October 25, 2018, 01:43:07 PM
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I am still on XHV (CN7-Heavy) --- the switch to CN8 didnt last long because less hash and more power, so back to XHV.

Started mining it when diff was low and was just under 1$..... now its 2.50$ which is crazy

Btw, I have pointed my old Baikal ASICs to solo pools for DeepOnion (X13) and DGB (Qubit) - BSOD pool have made it so easy to mine solo all coins they have listed in the poolsite.

You can even solo pool RVN or do a PARTY feature where you can mine together with predetermine miners that matches a group password.

https://bsod.pw/

SOLO mining:
m=solo in password field ("-p m=solo"), so it would look like this:
-a algo -o stratum+tcp://eu.bsod.pw:PORT -u WALLET.rig -p m=solo

PARTY mining:
m=party.YOUR_PARTY_PASSWORD in password field, so it would look like this:
-a algo -o stratum+tcp://eu.bsod.pw:PORT -u WALLET.rig -p m=party.YOUR_PARTY_PASSWORD

Password should contain only a-Z and 0-9


thats super cool, a non scammy solo pool for some less popular coins has been way overdue

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October 25, 2018, 01:45:55 PM
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What is everyone's theory on AMD and Nvidia's stock price. Basically today AMD opened at $25 and after their earnings release it tanked all the way to down to $17, basically a 32% intraday loss, which is considered normal for Crypto but for a stock is horrible.

Who here thinks AMD is going to start buying up Cryptos like ETH and XMR to boost sales on their GPU chips next quarter?

Its been a big rumor that when AMD was down last November, they started buying up Cryptos to bring huge demand to their GPUs and by Dec-January cryptos hit new highs and all the GPUs were sold off the shelves.

AMD peaked earlier this year at $34 so its down roughtly 50% while NVIDIA peaked at almost $300 and its currently $200.

So take a stock like NVDA which has a current market cap of $120B and AMD of $20B. Is it cheaper to buy say $1B worth of ETH and cause the price of ETH to go to a new ATH and instead boost the price of their stock by $60B?

What do all the conspiracy theorists conclude?

Without being insulting, I think the people who hold these theories are grossly uninformed.  Before I say anything further, I think this needs to be read:  http://fortune.com/2018/10/24/tech-stocks-nasdaq-s-and-p-market-correction/

Everything is down.  AMD is down because they had weak sales last quarter and they had previously stated mining accounted for 10% of total revenue, that has obviously gone from 10 to 0. They also have a bleaker outlook;  No new gaming GPUs and datacenter gpus aren't available yet. Now with that being said, market cap does not equal cash on hand.  Market Cap is the total value of all outstanding stocks.  AMD does not have a billion dollars laying around to buy ETH with.  If they did, they wouldn't buy ETH with it.  They manufacture hardware, not invest in crypto.


 BCI has only  16 million value

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-interest/

Market Cap
$16,244,323 USD
2,524 BTC

Volume (24h)
$1,819 USD
0.28 BTC



So a pump is easy peasy.  And the 2080  does 24mh  which is higher then the 1080ti's 20mh  

 So to not pump BCI  would be bad  business for NVIDA.


If the price went from 88 cents to 20 dollars  2080s will fly off the shelfs


Since exchange handle was so  tiny    I am stunned  this is yet to happen.

I won't say nsummy is wrong
I won't say adaseb is close to correct  in an ETH pump

I will say  pumping BCI is childs play  so my guess is mine BCI  and hope I am correct.

What  value does BCI have? It uses progpow  which favors RTX 2080   which means NVIDA should pump it to sell their new 2080's.

Yeah  that is how a gpu algo favored coin has value it can boost the sales of gpu's this a simple economic fact.


XMR  tried  by making new algo but  it has a ton of value  so a pump costs $$

ETH  may go progpow  but a pump costs $$$$

BCI is progpow  and a pump is so fucking easy to do  it is something  I could do.  I could spend 20,000 usd and boost  its price close to 2 dollars.



I'm still very surprised to see how bullish you are on BCI, you seem more bullish on this than anything I've read from you in the past. Normally your strategy is a bit more diverse and reserved.

This isn't criticism or anything, just interesting to see

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What is everyone's theory on AMD and Nvidia's stock price. Basically today AMD opened at $25 and after their earnings release it tanked all the way to down to $17, basically a 32% intraday loss, which is considered normal for Crypto but for a stock is horrible.

Who here thinks AMD is going to start buying up Cryptos like ETH and XMR to boost sales on their GPU chips next quarter?

Its been a big rumor that when AMD was down last November, they started buying up Cryptos to bring huge demand to their GPUs and by Dec-January cryptos hit new highs and all the GPUs were sold off the shelves.

AMD peaked earlier this year at $34 so its down roughtly 50% while NVIDIA peaked at almost $300 and its currently $200.

So take a stock like NVDA which has a current market cap of $120B and AMD of $20B. Is it cheaper to buy say $1B worth of ETH and cause the price of ETH to go to a new ATH and instead boost the price of their stock by $60B?

What do all the conspiracy theorists conclude?

Without being insulting, I think the people who hold these theories are grossly uninformed.  Before I say anything further, I think this needs to be read:  http://fortune.com/2018/10/24/tech-stocks-nasdaq-s-and-p-market-correction/

Everything is down.  AMD is down because they had weak sales last quarter and they had previously stated mining accounted for 10% of total revenue, that has obviously gone from 10 to 0. They also have a bleaker outlook;  No new gaming GPUs and datacenter gpus aren't available yet. Now with that being said, market cap does not equal cash on hand.  Market Cap is the total value of all outstanding stocks.  AMD does not have a billion dollars laying around to buy ETH with.  If they did, they wouldn't buy ETH with it.  They manufacture hardware, not invest in crypto.


 BCI has only  16 million value

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-interest/

Market Cap
$16,244,323 USD
2,524 BTC

Volume (24h)
$1,819 USD
0.28 BTC



So a pump is easy peasy.  And the 2080  does 24mh  which is higher then the 1080ti's 20mh  

 So to not pump BCI  would be bad  business for NVIDA.


If the price went from 88 cents to 20 dollars  2080s will fly off the shelfs


Since exchange handle was so  tiny    I am stunned  this is yet to happen.

I won't say nsummy is wrong
I won't say adaseb is close to correct  in an ETH pump

I will say  pumping BCI is childs play  so my guess is mine BCI  and hope I am correct.

What  value does BCI have? It uses progpow  which favors RTX 2080   which means NVIDA should pump it to sell their new 2080's.

Yeah  that is how a gpu algo favored coin has value it can boost the sales of gpu's this a simple economic fact.


XMR  tried  by making new algo but  it has a ton of value  so a pump costs $$

ETH  may go progpow  but a pump costs $$$$

BCI is progpow  and a pump is so fucking easy to do  it is something  I could do.  I could spend 20,000 usd and boost  its price close to 2 dollars.



I'm still very surprised to see how bullish you are on BCI, you seem more bullish on this than anything I've read from you in the past. Normally your strategy is a bit more diverse and reserved.

This isn't criticism or anything, just interesting to see

the math is right there.

1)  no one uses  progpow except bci.
2) progpow is good with rtx 2080 cards as tested by me.
3) coins are only  worth 16,000,000 usd total at 88 cents.

A large buyer of NVIDIA stock  on the current low number need not spend a lot to pump the coin thus making the rtx sell out.
Or nvidia could pump the coin  helping its bottom line  with faster selling gpus


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