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March 23, 2015, 12:04:41 PM |
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The Wind and the Sun An Aesop's Fable
The Wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger. Suddenly they saw a traveller coming down the road, and the Sun said: "I see a way to decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveller to take off his cloak shall be regarded as the stronger. You begin." So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow as hard as it could upon the traveller. But the harder he blew the more closely did the traveller wrap his cloak round him, till at last the Wind had to give up in despair. Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon thetraveller, who soon found it too hot to walk with his cloak on.
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March 23, 2015, 12:13:23 PM |
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To: smooth, iCEBREAKER, TheDasher,... and many Trollers from Monero.
The Wind and the Sun An Aesop's Fable
The Wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger. Suddenly they saw a traveller coming down the road, and the Sun said: "I see a way to decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveller to take off his cloak shall be regarded as the stronger. You begin." So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow as hard as it could upon the traveller. But the harder he blew the more closely did the traveller wrap his cloak round him, till at last the Wind had to give up in despair. Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon thetraveller, who soon found it too hot to walk with his cloak on.
You make a good point, and it is indeed well taken. A modified approach is perhaps appropriate at this juncture. Though I find it a bit disappointing that someone with such obvious grasp of wisdom still feels compelled to describe people who present an opposing view as trolls. That's a bit of a cheap personal attack that attributes a particular motivation (of causing disruption) which happens to be incorrect. Still thank you for the useful post.
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March 23, 2015, 12:15:07 PM |
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Bounty to fork Darkcoin/Dash and create better masternode cryptocurrency https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999633.0
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DΛSH is digital cash. Transactions are obscured in the blockchain, making them private from the wallet. You can send Dash to family or friends, or pay for goods or services, anywhere in the world. DΛSH Anonymous and Untraceable. The Perfect Digital Cash And The Best Way To Protect Your Privacy https://www.dashpay.io DΛSH is 59.5 times faster with syncing and updating than Monero.My DΛSH Address: XgF6sNzGHU58dn36WsC16no9FHct6nPeZD
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March 23, 2015, 12:22:45 PM |
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Pretty much nothing ever comes from you that doesn't read like marketing and promotion....
The difference is, I'm an investor, not a coin developer, nor do I have any affiliation with any project in this industry. I make my "fanboy" remarks in the DRK ANN thread where they belong (or a neutral one) and usually base them on a good deal of technical appraisal which - while they might not agree with yours - I usually post to endorse conclusions I make about the merits of this project's market viability. You, on the other hand, are directly affiliated to another project in the same market space and come here making adversarial claims trying to undermine an asset that I have invested in with the most dubious defamation of character claims I've seen on bitcointalk. I mean, of all the hundreds of targets you could have legitimately chosen you pick on the one guy that probably has broad respect across the industry and has even been acknowledged as such. Do you realise how that makes you look ? I think you'd better start looking for new devs if you want to keep your own show on the road because after this episode your about as investible as a 2 week old cabbage.
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March 23, 2015, 12:30:45 PM |
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adversarial claims trying to undermine an asset that I have invested in You're attributing motive that doesn't necessarily follow, but its okay for you to have that opinion. Nevertheless it is interesting that you reveal your own highly conflicted status. So with all of your comments about "conflict" the pot has been calling the kettle black all along. We fundamentally disagree about whether "fanboy" comments are more on topic than critical ones just because it happens to be the DRK thread. And if they are not, then one form of "conflict" on the part of the speaker is certainly not morally or ethically superior to another. If that's the kind of discussion you want, take it to a private form or a moderated thread. Otherwise, you going to get all views (whether or not from me) on the thread, not just the positive ones. Anyway I see no purpose to engage a self-described "fanboy" as that is not a style of communication or a level or honest critical thinking for which I have any respect.
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March 23, 2015, 12:35:49 PM |
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Though I find it a bit disappointing that someone with such obvious grasp of wisdom still feels compelled to describe people who present an opposing view as trolls.
Jeez - you sound like some kind of sleazy bank manager that's been caught with his hand in the cash drawer appealing to the jailer for clemency. Ironic that your here banding around "scam" claims. How to deal with competition: Try to defame the developer and patronise the community - nice technique !
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March 23, 2015, 12:36:37 PM |
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March 23, 2015, 12:37:55 PM |
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Just once, cause you guys are so much fun ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJrgrWTm.png&t=665&c=VbNfiOuMWD2PtA)
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March 23, 2015, 12:40:48 PM |
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Yes. It is quite sad really.
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March 23, 2015, 12:42:52 PM |
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We fundamentally disagree about whether "fanboy" comments are more on topic than critical ones
Calling the developer a "fraud" and aggressively promoting that view cannot remotely be characterised as a 'critical comment'. It is a direct personal accusation and one that people are wholly justified in condemning you for.
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March 23, 2015, 12:46:26 PM |
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We fundamentally disagree about whether "fanboy" comments are more on topic than critical ones
Calling the developer a "fraud" and aggressively promoting that view cannot remotely be characterised as a 'critical comment'. It is a direct personal accusation and one that people are wholly justified in condemning you for. How about starting a victim support thread and locking it so you can bump it several times a day but not open it up to comment? I know I was a few days off but I did say that the IRC chatter was indicating a prolonged and organised smear campaign against DRK/DASH!
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March 23, 2015, 12:56:01 PM |
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do you have same statistical data for bitcoin?
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March 23, 2015, 12:56:53 PM |
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People are just silly. If he would have pulled of this great 'conspiracy', how come he had to buy coins? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5007248#msg5007248If darkcoin isn't fair, then what about bitcoin? Bitcoin was stealth mined for years. And what if whole bitcoin community knew about darkcoin and everyone mined it? Then people would still come a year later and say "this is ninjamined, only a small community mined this shit". It's all relative - and the distribution will always benefit the early adopters. Im not saying that we should allow and encourage unfair distribution, Im just trying to imply that we have yet to invent a fair distribution model, because its just childish to say that any other coin is better distributed than darkcoin.
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March 23, 2015, 12:57:54 PM |
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I've update the animation to include the new logo... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWCQu94s.gif&t=665&c=MYmvIGKK2nsDMA) All donations welcome ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 23, 2015, 12:58:50 PM |
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So much trolling! I should buy more!
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March 23, 2015, 01:01:26 PM |
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So much trolling! I should buy more!
Well you know they've blown a fuse somewhere when the trolls have to put the natives on ignore ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thats a new one on me. Just once, cause you guys are so much fun ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJrgrWTm.png&t=665&c=VbNfiOuMWD2PtA)
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March 23, 2015, 01:02:13 PM |
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March 23, 2015, 01:07:16 PM |
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do you have same statistical data for bitcoin?
The average block time for bitcoin during the first year was something like 14 minutes (target=10), meaning not only wasn't it instamined, it was tardymined. The difficulty was stuck at the minimum for a long time. This wasn't necessarily because people didn't mine (Greg Maxwell reported that he and many other people did mine in the first few months), just that the miner was really slow, and people didn't really go out of their way to mine (the wallet just mined when the program was open). Also, many people who mined bitcoin in the first year didn't even save their wallets, or didn't save all of them. It was just a curious cryptographic toy at the time, with no monetary value at all. Wallets were more like temp files. I'm sure there are charts of this somewhere, but overall the whole thing was just totally incomparable to anything going on now.
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March 23, 2015, 01:09:06 PM |
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So much trolling! I should buy more!
Well you know they've blown a fuse somewhere when the trolls have to put the natives on ignore ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Thats a new one on me. Just once, cause you guys are so much fun ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJrgrWTm.png&t=665&c=VbNfiOuMWD2PtA) I would say achievement unlocked! Native ignored by a Troll! This is amazing!
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March 23, 2015, 01:27:47 PM |
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so you say this is wrong "Satoshi certainly has a lot of funds. Bitcoin security consultant Sergio Lerner's oft-cited analysis puts the figure at around 1m BTC, based on the early mining that he or she did." http://www.coindesk.com/dangerous-satoshi-nakamoto/
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