[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[Jestah]

Mr. Icebreaker sure acts jelly.  Why else is he here?

It's really funny, my posts get deleted and his stay.  He should add to his fud that he's a dev for a competing coin.

[GhostPlayer]

Mr. Icebreaker sure acts jelly.  Why else is he here?

It's really funny, my posts get deleted and his stay.  He should add to his fud that he's a dev for a competing coin.

 I especially love the red text. So easy on the eyes, makes me understand the message much better. If it were green, or blue, I may have missed it. But big red letters really does emphasise the importance and urgency of the matter.

 That and haemorrhoids.

 But that is going slightly off topic.

[AdamWhite]

  Deep pockets + Long arms = Broad shoulders... You da man, thank you Otoh, sir!    

Don't thank him for dumping.

Hey man this is Dash... most of the supporters are clinically braindead and will cheer for anything otoh or eduffield do and say including dumping (aka "controlled burn" ROFL)

So otoh claims he believes in the coin yet he's dumping as fast as he can... sounds legit 

Btw ice isnt a dev for any coin... the ghostplayer shill didnt mention that part.why bother correcting misinformation when it furthers your agenda right ghostplayer?

[valentino008]

  Deep pockets + Long arms = Broad shoulders... You da man, thank you Otoh, sir!    

Don't thank him for dumping.

Hey man this is Dash... most of the supporters are clinically braindead and will cheer for anything otoh or eduffield do and say including dumping (aka "controlled burn" ROFL)

So otoh claims he believes in the coin yet he's dumping as fast as he can... sounds legit...  you da man otoh!

You like Dash but you say it's a scam to scare people and let them dump so you can buy the cheap coins.

[wozzek23]

otoh[/b] I decided to do some controlled burning just now, rather than let the price drift down I cleared out all the bids from 0.01 to 0.009 and am moving the BTC to USD for my $2 bid wall, I think this may help but who knows - the market always is right and will decide when and where the price goes. The bids are repopulating now somewhat, I'm actually super optimistic for the prospects of DASH, but if the market wants to see how low it can go that's fine by me, when it finds out I expect a mega bounce, I may even precipitate it as I have approx $0.5MM war chest atm should I choose to use it or some.

  Deep pockets + Long arms = Broad shoulders... You da man, thank you Otoh, sir!    

Don't thank him for dumping.

Hmm... so yet again one investor singularly influences the price and causing many to lose? (some can't withstand the loss, some need cash for private emergencies, some dislike manipulation...) As a result we're #6 on Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations and it seem we soon might drop to #7. This is a significant difference from being #4, a place we mostly held from March to July.

So, as I see it, the future of DASH firmly lies on the shoulders of Evan, Holger, UdjinM6, Francis, Mario, Alexandre and Crowning (not to forget Moli, Slawek and Robert and all non-really-tech guys like Balázs, Tiago, Daniel, Fernando and now legendary, indefatigable Phillip / Tungfa) and their stamina.

There's not a single person in this list I do not trust, i.e. all of them look more than trustworthy so the time, given the price, to come back and invest yet again has come. I fear the price might go lower, but than, it would not be that bad for an investment...

Very, very curious to see how this will develop, both the short-term price and a long-term outcome.

[hiddensphinx]

Price dipped below 0.01 again? why?

[OBAViJEST]

Price dipped below 0.01 again? why?

So we can use the opportunity to buy

[wildduck]

Or to get even lower..

[hiddensphinx]

I have been bag holding since 0.02 LOL

[moocowmoo]

So much concern over the spot price.  Nobody seems able to retain the long view, the big picture.

Maybe they're just young, impatient, hungry for the historical big-swing wins.
Maybe they're just ignorant, uninvolved, gamblers treating these immature innovations as slot machines.

I don't know. Maybe we're all a little of the above depending on what day it is and how honest we are with ourselves.
I know I'm betting big on it.

Today, any big whale could easily throw the price from 0.01 to 0.0001 and then up to 0.1 or even to btc parity.
It only takes a few (dozen) million dollars, and a lot of people out there have the liquidity to do it, if not the will.

That is the nature of pretty much all cryptocurrencies today.  Keyword being today.

That won't be the case when cryptocurrency users multiply ten thousand fold.
And, I believe this is an inescapable eventuality.

Today is the Internet in 1994. Today the future is being built, and you're a part of it.

These cycles are inevitable at this stage of the game.

Buy while it's cheap.

[TanteStefana2]

I notice everyone is wondering why the price is dropping.  Apparently, as posted earlier, there is a popular game that is being illegally downloaded with a dash miner hijack in it where it's taking control of people's (probably pretty good gpu as the game requires it) and mining on coinmine.pl  This is causing, once again, for coinmine.pl to have more than 50% of the hash, and these guys are finding a ton of the blocks (hence earning a ton of coins) and they're immediately dumping the coins they mine.  This is also causing difficulty to be high.

So, I guess until those fools figure out they're paying the electricity bill and wear and tear on their computers for someone else's gain, and uninstall that game, this will continue.

As for our price, well, the demand isn't there to buy up all those coins I guess, so as otoh said, the market is never wrong.  Why get upset?  The truth is, until we get the word out and actually get people using Dash for real world purchases, transfers, etc... we won't see any big price rises.  I don't know how long it will take, another year?  5?  But I do have confidence that this will be the coin that goes mainstream as a currency/fiat replacement.  There are other coins that are interesting, but Dash, IMO, is the one that is going to win this race.  The race for a cash replacement.

Anyway, I don't really see any point in fretting over the price.  If you're a trader, well, every price change is an opportunity, so I guess good luck there, but for people like me, it really doesn't matter.  I've learned not to take it personally when the price drops.  I used to get sad, feeling like we're over-looked, which we are.  But now, I see it wouldn't matter anyway.  It's going to do what it's going to do until adoption happens.  I'm currently just hanging on to my coins and trying to find other ways to pay for my bills.  I won't sell at this price

[110110101]

Probably bad news for everyone running their nodes with "masternode start" (i.e. using local dash.conf): I guess there's a bug with masternode self-activation somewhere.

If you are using local dash.conf to start your remote masternode do NOT run this local wallet while masternode=1 is still in local dash.conf, I think it will try to self-activate for some reason and will drop your node to the end of the queue. Either set it to masternode=0 before you run it OR better option would be to use masternode.conf even if you only have one masternode.

Sorry about that

PS. Code there became a bit messy actually because of many different options. I think we should stop using this one, clean it up and stick to masternode.conf method only to activate remote nodes while old dash.conf method should only be used for activating local Hot masternodes from now.

PPS. Users with masternode.conf setup should not be affected by this.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/v12-release.5888/page-52#post-66578

Thankyou for this information UdjinM6, this could perhaps explain why some payments have been intermittent.
I'll have to check my setup, unfortunately I had the cold wallets sync up yesterday. Would have been a downer if this put my masternode last in queue again.

[Sub-Ether]

I notice everyone is wondering why the price is dropping...
..so as otoh said, the market is never wrong.  Why get upset?  
...It's going to do what it's going to do until adoption happens.  I'm currently just hanging on to my coins and trying to find other ways to pay for my bills.  I won't sell at this price

Hir Tante, good morning  
there are 4 or 5 downward spot price pressures as I see it from my grassy knoll,

1) the rise in the masternode count is slowing down, meaning less new outside buying with btc, making less surplus taken off the market.
2) bitfinex not supporting with fiat and possibly cashing in of multiple k from saved commissions
3) the price of bitcoin is up, so its cashing out time.
4) market reaction to superblocks
5) market anti-climax after yet another stunning release

[CODERsp]

I think, that price is going down because of one (several) persons own 50%+ of masternodes, so budgeting system is in almost one hands, so there is no real decentralization.

In past, I thought, that budget money will be deducted from mined blocks (45% (miners) + 45% (masternodes) + 10% (budgets)) and load will be low, but now I see, that 5861 DASH was generated in the moment.

P.S. Judging on voting results I see, that real masternode operators voted was around 100 persons maximum, and 1000+ vote is always decisive.

As I said in past, who owns more masternodes can create more masternodes without new investments. Some people enjoy MN count rises, but I'm not. These new masternodes creates the same person who own 50% of existing masternodes and the most important - it costs no money for him.

And now, he can control budgeting system, simulating decentralization and real voting.

So, it's not wonderful, that DASH/BTC rate is falling, because project losses trust, I think, it's obvious. But somebody try to prove, that price falling doesn't matter.

Last time, I began to suspect, that this project really was created to simply pump money from it, first: throw instamine, second: throw masternode system, third: throw budgets.

I watch for project long time and I don't see any real promotion of it (especially seeing another projects promotion). Last months, market at all ceased to pay attention on DASH news.

[Rux]

you all talk like that, and in one moment when flash buy starts you just close this thread and forget what you said earlier

ok Otoh have 50% of MN's ... ok ... why dont you drive price up where otoh will say HMM im gonna sell 20% of my MN's, then later another 20% ... then he will have only 10% and then you would be happy? yes?

[CODERsp]

you all talk like that, and in one moment when flash buy starts you just close this thread and forget what you said earlier

ok Otoh have 50% of MN's ... ok ... why dont you drive price up where otoh will say HMM im gonna sell 20% of my MN's, then later another 20% ... then he will have only 10% and then you would be happy? yes?

We have to trust, what he says? People become reach not because they say their real plans.

[Otoh]

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Hmm... so yet again one investor singularly influences the price and causing many to lose? (some can't withstand the loss, some need cash for private emergencies, some dislike manipulation...)
...

Do not put funds that you may need for emergencies into such a high risk vehicle as crypto

buying and selling is not manipulation, it is normal market operating

the market decides the price, I am a part of the market but only a small part of the whole

[tungfa]

Fud Fud Fud
you guys really have nothing better to do ?

there is Press
"oh they paid for it"
there is no press
"they do not do press because it is a scam"

12 years old playing finances
mei oh mei

[BiteMyShinyMetalAss]

So Otoh decided to push the price down to 2$ and this is what is happening, and we are supposed to be happy for some reason?

[BrainShutdown]

So Otoh decided to push the price down to 2$ and this is what is happening, and we are supposed to be happy for some reason?

Happy...sad... it's a market, why have feelings for it?

Markets have players, all have agendas, some are stronger than others...