[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[kointrend]

Hi guys,
I'm trying to spread the word between friends about cryptocurrency, Bitcoin in general and Dash in detail. They are absolutely uninitiated in crypto so I would like to show they some of the best articles about that. I mean, about the filosofy behind crypto world, for exemple related to unbanked people or showing why is healthy not have a central control about our finance. They have heard just from the established mass media about laundering money, black economy, etc etc

Thanks in advance

I don't think it is the best, but philosophical enough: Evolution of money: Cryptocurrency  

+ https://youtu.be/H2YllvbJo6g?t=115 (Erik Voorhees - The Role of Bitcoin as Money - Bitcoin 2013 Conference)

thanks Alex 

[kointrend]

looks like the price is being suppressed by this guy...

Hidden Cryptominers in Game torrents.
http://biersteker.tweakblogs.net/blog/archief/2015/06/

i posted this info in the most popular gtav torrent thread but it was deleted.
someone technical needs to come up with a budget proposal to deal with this issue ASAP.

Well, this puts the price constantly down.
We could easier see the new ATH in price if not that IMO.
Hope that russians will have their good response by contacting the antyvirus companies to KKND this hidden malware miner.

Did anyone contacted antivirus companies?

I guess It should be done in good English, here is some places to send the virus alarm:

samples@eset.com,
support@sophos.com,
samples@ahnlab.com,
v3sos@ahnlab.com,
virus@avg.com,
mailbot@ikarus.at,
virus_malware@avira.com,
urlsamples@pandasecurity.com,
virus@arcabit.com,
malware@agnitum.com,
virus@bytehero.com,
samples@adminus.net,
support@riskanalytics.com,
support@alienvault.com,
support@aegislab.com,
windefend@submit.microsoft.com,
support@emsisoft.com,
root@malwares.com,
sys@zcloudsec.com,
support@bullguard.com,
support@BoostByReason.com,
virus@jiangmin.com,
support@nprotect.rsystems.com,
support@ikarus.at,
soporte@hacksoft.com.pe,
support@cmilabsplc.com,
support@msecuredatalabs.com,
payment@preventon.com,
icna_support@tencent.com,
Bkav@bkav.com,
support.is@cmclab.net,
support@filseclab.com,
newvirus@kaspersky.com,

web-form:
https://virusdesk.kaspersky.com
http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_badware/
http://www.scumware.org/add_url.scumware
http://z-oleg.com/secur/avz/uploadu.php
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/domain/writeComments?firstTry=1&section=domainSuggestion
http://www.c-sirt.org/
https://www.badwarebusters.org/community/submit
http://cybertopcops.com/report-malware-sites.php
http://global.sitesafety.trendmicro.com/
http://cybercrime-tracker.net/submit.php
http://app.webinspector.com/
https://analysis.avira.com/ru/submit-urls
https://support.drweb.com/new/urlfilter/
http://www.crdf.us/#contact
http://www.fortiguard.com/contactus.html
http://www.malware.com.br/contrib.shtml
http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/contact.php
https://www.stopbadware.org/report-badware
http://www.abuse.ch/?page_id=4727
https://support.avast.com/Tickets/Submit/RenderForm
http://antivirus.baidu.com/en/submit-url.php
https://analysis.f-secure.com/portal/login.html

Bump!

[wozzek23]

...

On the bad side of this: trading volume is pathetic. Market cap is irrelevant...

Are you serious ? I don't believe you actually believe this.

Tok, I'm truncating your othwervise (like always) great post for it is just a post or two above. I wasn't clear. "Market cap is irrelevant" meant in conjunction with the pathetic trading volume i.e. so small that is not relevant in the bigger picture (market cap of almost any other asset in the world is multiple of that of DASH)

Let me share something - as a young man I was a chess player, a bit later I was a political columnist - and in both fields I had an advantage of seeing a move or more further down the road than the others. I simple have that talent. I saw Darkcoin potential among the first outside the pure crypto field (I was late to BTC for I simply did not understand the technology at that time, among all the noise) and had my own expectations, based on that potential.

As soon as it was re-branded, the cracks started to show up, in my mind. So, now, is 6 months really that short time to seriously evaluate the progress on the other levels than its underlying genius? Most like is - BUT now, my own expectations are not grounded in anything but my own ideas I can't push. I wonder, if the MAIN advantage, for an AVERAGE user (say an online retailer, say a bar owner) of this thingy are:

- its minuscule fee for a transaction;
- the speed of the transaction (IX);

why don't we push toward the obvious?

A BitPay / Coinbase / credit cards / QR hybrid that would serve DASH exclusively?

Evan is talking about "decentralized corporation" anyway; there's a not-for-profit Foundation established already so the first steps toward establishing a legal framework, for such an entity -- that is a needed first step toward DASH (or any other crypto) autonomy (wide adoption) -- are already in place.

How can anyone hope for any kind of "mass adoption" if you have Bitcoin - that wast majority of people do not get at all - acting, out of necessity, for the lack of our own BitPay / Coinbase infrastructure as intermediary. Try to explain a retailer the chain of events he or she would have to face if they want to accept DASH.

"You get DASH, than you have your wallet (which can be "cold" or "hot"), where your DASH goes, than you have to send it to an exchange, a crypto exchange at that, where you have to buy Bitcoin and than your Bitcoin can be exchanged for fiat etc., etc., etc." - and think of a blank expression on the face of such a person.

The beauty of EVERY SUCCESSFUL project ("mass adopted", that is) is that they are aimed at the end user being an idiot. Think iPhone. Think Netflix. Think Google. How many people have ANY idea how any of these really work? People do not give a fuck. They are dumb. (just take a glance at the idiots they have been voting, for ages, in the respective offices of power all over the world and you'll see how kind I am toward that bunch of feeble-minded, brain-washed idiots I lovingly called "dumb") They want their things / services to work.

So our retailer or a bar owner needs to KNOW that the phantom thingy, a.k.a. DASH, would PAY for her or his service / product (think BitPay) and would, magically, transform into a fiat of their choice (think Coinbase, automatic exchange / transfer) and appear on their account instantaneously (think credit cards, think PayPal) FIRST. Only after this works, he or she will need to be educated about gazillion other possibilities in the wondrous realm they entered.

So, IMHO - this project needs to focus on this and that other think, Masternode usability - i.e. figure out how that wast network of computing power can be used for something useful for the world and the humanity, instead of just spending energy into creating something out of nothing)

If we'd have these two goals clearly outlined I'd see a direction this project is going and will have go back to my insane days of having 90% of ALL my investments poured into it. Like this we, obviously, depend on the others to develop the same but if they don't...

[btcqy]

seems the end of DASH is coming
loved this coin tho

Maybe this is a surprise this year.

[czcool]

Opportunities in a few weeks ago

[splawik21]

So many '0 activity', brand new accounts around.
Looks like someone wants to FUD a bit more.

[wozzek23]

- its minuscule fee for a transaction;
- the speed of the transaction (IX);

I've been thinking a bit about that famous, elusive 'mass adoption' based on what I wrote in my previous post. IX etc., are deemed to be safe. The infrastructure I am proposing can go that far to completely remove a need for a wallet (DASH or BTC) from the equation.

-- a DASH CASH platform;
-- an user, a retailer gets assigned its unique # something they understand in a very easy, safe and secure, streamlined process. It can be associated with their e-mail, Tax ID, name, who cares (and on the back-end of D-C platform) it is identifiable as a simple, unique Dash address;
-- their own website or a physical place of business would have the same stuff like PP button or QR code and accept the payment;
-- the payment goes, via its DASH CASH platform, using DashPay, Dashbase etc., to the retailer's fiat account.

And voila!, these advantages - like the credit cards but instead for a 3% fee, only a 0.03% fee - get even to the most dense, crypto-averse in particular or novelty averse in general people and we can approach them with a clear message without all the voodoo. Let them study the voodoo if they wish. If not we have enough geeks and upcoming generations that will be happy with the crypto world, crypto anarchy, blockchain based governance, blockchain based corporations, passports, nations...

[toknormal]

Let me share something - as a young man I was a chess player, a bit later I was a political columnist - and in both fields I had an advantage of seeing a move or more further down the road than the others.....
If we'd have these two goals clearly outlined I'd see a direction this project is going and will have go back to my insane days of having 90% of ALL my investments poured into it. Like this we, obviously, depend on the others to develop the same but if they don't...

Very interesting and relevant stuff, wozzek. You're right, the adoption stuff is a real challenge and till now things have been strategic - like actually aspiring to something that actually can function as money. As you say, the hard bit is getting it adopted, especially when bitcoin itself isn't even in widespread adoption.

Will digest.

[sundowner]

- its minuscule fee for a transaction;
- the speed of the transaction (IX);

-- a DASH CASH platform;
-- an user, a retailer gets assigned its unique # something they understand in a very easy, safe and secure, streamlined process. It can be associated with their e-mail, Tax ID, name, who cares (and on the back-end of D-C platform) it is identifiable as a simple, unique Dash address;
-- their own website or a physical place of business would have the same stuff like PP button or QR code and accept the payment;
-- the payment goes, via its DASH CASH platform, using DashPay, Dashbase etc., to the retailer's fiat account.

That would be amazing.

Listen to this elderly lady who got scammed and her computer held ransom for BTC. The thing she found most frustrating about the whole ordeal was when she had to try and get bitcoins, within a short time frame. Skip to 6 mins in for BTC talk.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/darkode/
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio.wnyc.org/radiolab_podcast/radiolab_podcast15darkode.mp3

[Callahan]

- its minuscule fee for a transaction;
- the speed of the transaction (IX);

-- a DASH CASH platform;
-- an user, a retailer gets assigned its unique # something they understand in a very easy, safe and secure, streamlined process. It can be associated with their e-mail, Tax ID, name, who cares (and on the back-end of D-C platform) it is identifiable as a simple, unique Dash address;
-- their own website or a physical place of business would have the same stuff like PP button or QR code and accept the payment;
-- the payment goes, via its DASH CASH platform, using DashPay, Dashbase etc., to the retailer's fiat account.

That would be amazing.

Listen to this elderly lady who got scammed and her computer held ransom for BTC. The thing she found most frustrating about the whole ordeal was when she had to try and get bitcoins, within a short time frame. Skip to 6 mins in for BTC talk.

http://www.radiolab.org/story/darkode/
http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/audio.wnyc.org/radiolab_podcast/radiolab_podcast15darkode.mp3

seems the end of DASH is coming
loved this coin tho

Maybe this is a surprise this year.

Opportunities in a few weeks ago

Thanks...
Your under 5 activity is very confortable

[BiteMyShinyMetalAss]

Does anyone know anything about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/3mi633/asic_dash_miner_is_in_town/

If their specs are correct, overclocked to 400MHz (and cooled very well!) will produce 9M hash, or about .16 dash per day at current difficulty.

ROI in about 110 days if diff stays in the same ranges (doubtful. will probably be double or triple that depending on how many come online.)
(each stick represents about 0.01385% of the current total network hash)

I'd grab a couple for $39...... lol take my money please!  Where to order?

https://squareup.com/market/pinidea

YOUR ORDER #XXXX WILL BE READY BY OCT 03

Can't wait to see what this will do....

This could be really good for the network specially for that price, is really accessible for anyone.  Lets see what happens.

Just did some calculations, just 4000 of those USB sticks would match with more then 50% of current total networkhash (55,4%)
So here is a thought : the Dash community orders 4000 ASIC USB miners through budget proposal and leases them out to interested miners to be used on a specific community directed p2p Dash pool to counter-balance other pools.
Slap some shipping costs on it and you can also lease them out to European miners.  

edit : just some brainstorming and also we have absolutely no proof that ASIC Dash Miner is for real .. yet.

It seems now, that you can propose anything and win it due to lack of voting. There should be a rule, as for the proposal to pass, at least 30-40% of MN votes are needed.

[qwizzie]

Does anyone know anything about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/3mi633/asic_dash_miner_is_in_town/

If their specs are correct, overclocked to 400MHz (and cooled very well!) will produce 9M hash, or about .16 dash per day at current difficulty.

ROI in about 110 days if diff stays in the same ranges (doubtful. will probably be double or triple that depending on how many come online.)
(each stick represents about 0.01385% of the current total network hash)

I'd grab a couple for $39...... lol take my money please!  Where to order?

https://squareup.com/market/pinidea

YOUR ORDER #XXXX WILL BE READY BY OCT 03

Can't wait to see what this will do....

This could be really good for the network specially for that price, is really accessible for anyone.  Lets see what happens.

Just did some calculations, just 4000 of those USB sticks would match with more then 50% of current total networkhash (55,4%)
So here is a thought : the Dash community orders 4000 ASIC USB miners through budget proposal and leases them out to interested miners to be used on a specific community directed p2p Dash pool to counter-balance other pools.
Slap some shipping costs on it and you can also lease them out to European miners.  

edit : just some brainstorming and also we have absolutely no proof that ASIC Dash Miner is for real .. yet.

It seems now, that you can propose anything and win it due to lack of voting. There should be a rule, as for the proposal to pass, at least 30-40% of MN votes are needed.

good thing i added my edit when i did... which does make me wonder why you even replied.
there should be a rule though, i agree : dont take people thinking outloud in this forum too seriously.

[Lebubar]

Does anyone know anything about this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/comments/3mi633/asic_dash_miner_is_in_town/

If their specs are correct, overclocked to 400MHz (and cooled very well!) will produce 9M hash, or about .16 dash per day at current difficulty.

ROI in about 110 days if diff stays in the same ranges (doubtful. will probably be double or triple that depending on how many come online.)
(each stick represents about 0.01385% of the current total network hash)

I'd grab a couple for $39...... lol take my money please!  Where to order?

https://squareup.com/market/pinidea

YOUR ORDER #XXXX WILL BE READY BY OCT 03

Can't wait to see what this will do....

This could be really good for the network specially for that price, is really accessible for anyone.  Lets see what happens.

Just did some calculations, just 4000 of those USB sticks would match with more then 50% of current total networkhash (55,4%)
So here is a thought : the Dash community orders 4000 ASIC USB miners through budget proposal and leases them out to interested miners to be used on a specific community directed p2p Dash pool to counter-balance other pools.
Slap some shipping costs on it and you can also lease them out to European miners.  

edit : just some brainstorming and also we have absolutely no proof that ASIC Dash Miner is for real .. yet.

It seems now, that you can propose anything and win it due to lack of voting. There should be a rule, as for the proposal to pass, at least 30-40% of MN votes are needed.

It's not completly true, as already one budget proposal was refused by MN votes.

[tungfa]

https://dashtalk.org/threads/october-2015-budget-proposal.6234/

[qwizzie]

https://dashtalk.org/threads/october-2015-budget-proposal.6234/

it would be nice if Evan could add the liquidity provider budget voting hash on that first page as well.
(see page 6 of above link : #liquidity-providers : mnbudget vote-many 74d557df5d62ea9e3ef1b26a2cbab3b4e71032d7f9480ea773aa9d87d1aecb5e yes)

[tungfa]

it would be nice if Evan could add the liquidity provider budget voting hash on that first page as well.
(see page 6 : #liquidity-providers : mnbudget vote-many 74d557df5d62ea9e3ef1b26a2cbab3b4e71032d7f9480ea773aa9d87d1aecb5e yes)

good point !
i totally forgot about that !!

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

Let me share something - as a young man I was a chess player, a bit later I was a political columnist - and in both fields I had an advantage of seeing a move or more further down the road than the others.....
If we'd have these two goals clearly outlined I'd see a direction this project is going and will have go back to my insane days of having 90% of ALL my investments poured into it. Like this we, obviously, depend on the others to develop the same but if they don't...

Very interesting and relevant stuff, wozzek. You're right, the adoption stuff is a real challenge and till now things have been strategic - like actually aspiring to something that actually can function as money. As you say, the hard bit is getting it adopted, especially when bitcoin itself isn't even in widespread adoption.

Will digest.

The fact that BTC hasn't gained widespread adoption by now is not a concern at all, if you look at a larger timeframe. Bitcoin, from a Dash perspective, is not very adoptable, due to its lack of fungibility and slow transaction speeds, not to mention a clear lack of direction.

Dash, given its intense organization and direction, coupled with a superior product, given a large enough timeframe, will refine and get the word out. It will overtake Bitcoin the rudderless ship at some point. Then it will just be a case of fine-tuning and maintaining.

It's really laughable the problems and infighting that Bitcoin has, that Dash, after only 1.5 years in existence, has solved already. We have the means to succeed where Bitcoin failed. We just need time, and I for one, consider this a long-term effort with lots of expected and unexpected ups and downs.

We will succeed.

[Solarminer]

- its minuscule fee for a transaction;
- the speed of the transaction (IX);

I've been thinking a bit about that famous, elusive 'mass adoption' based on what I wrote in my previous post. IX etc., are deemed to be safe. The infrastructure I am proposing can go that far to completely remove a need for a wallet (DASH or BTC) from the equation.

-- a DASH CASH platform;
-- an user, a retailer gets assigned its unique # something they understand in a very easy, safe and secure, streamlined process. It can be associated with their e-mail, Tax ID, name, who cares (and on the back-end of D-C platform) it is identifiable as a simple, unique Dash address;
-- their own website or a physical place of business would have the same stuff like PP button or QR code and accept the payment;
-- the payment goes, via its DASH CASH platform, using DashPay, Dashbase etc., to the retailer's fiat account.

And voila!, these advantages - like the credit cards but instead for a 3% fee, only a 0.03% fee - get even to the most dense, crypto-averse in particular or novelty averse in general people and we can approach them with a clear message without all the voodoo. Let them study the voodoo if they wish. If not we have enough geeks and upcoming generations that will be happy with the crypto world, crypto anarchy, blockchain based governance, blockchain based corporations, passports, nations...

Actually, all you need is a Dash address linked via ACH account to fiat deposit.  Have a shapeshift like transaction, put in the $ amount you want and it will give you a deposit address and amount of DASH to send. The problem comes in when you deposit with Fiat, you have to have KYC and a money transmitter license/commodity trader license.  Maybe you could somehow make the owner of the dash deposit address the same as the ACH account and eliminate the need for the KYC and other paperwork.

Bitpay pretty much does this with bitcoin already but with more account information requirements.  They also have the licenses and per sale accounting needed to do it.

The other key that is bigger than just a place to accept payments, is how you send them.  Mobile wallets need to be really easy to use.  They should use nfc to communicate the amount and deposit address automatically.  This should be possible like when you bump phones to transfer a contact.  We have QR code scanning with wallets, but this still seems more difficult than what it could be.  If you can do that, it will be really easy to pay for things.  You could even add a password, transaction limits, and other security features.  So not only is this easier than a credit card, but safer.

Now you have a better merchant and consumer experience to propel mass adoption.

[qwizzie]

- its minuscule fee for a transaction;
- the speed of the transaction (IX);

I've been thinking a bit about that famous, elusive 'mass adoption' based on what I wrote in my previous post. IX etc., are deemed to be safe. The infrastructure I am proposing can go that far to completely remove a need for a wallet (DASH or BTC) from the equation.

-- a DASH CASH platform;
-- an user, a retailer gets assigned its unique # something they understand in a very easy, safe and secure, streamlined process. It can be associated with their e-mail, Tax ID, name, who cares (and on the back-end of D-C platform) it is identifiable as a simple, unique Dash address;
-- their own website or a physical place of business would have the same stuff like PP button or QR code and accept the payment;
-- the payment goes, via its DASH CASH platform, using DashPay, Dashbase etc., to the retailer's fiat account.

And voila!, these advantages - like the credit cards but instead for a 3% fee, only a 0.03% fee - get even to the most dense, crypto-averse in particular or novelty averse in general people and we can approach them with a clear message without all the voodoo. Let them study the voodoo if they wish. If not we have enough geeks and upcoming generations that will be happy with the crypto world, crypto anarchy, blockchain based governance, blockchain based corporations, passports, nations...

Actually, all you need is a Dash address linked via ACH account to fiat deposit.  Have a shapeshift like transaction, put in the $ amount you want and it will give you a deposit address and amount of DASH to send. The problem comes in when you deposit with Fiat, you have to have KYC and a money transmitter license/commodity trader license.  Maybe you could somehow make the owner of the dash deposit address the same as the ACH account and eliminate the need for the KYC and other paperwork.

Bitpay pretty much does this with bitcoin already but with more account information requirements.  They also have the licenses and per sale accounting needed to do it.

The other key that is bigger than just a place to accept payments, is the how you send them.  Mobile wallets need to be really easy to use.  They should use nfc to communicate the amount and deposit address automatically.  This should be possible like when you bump phones to transfer a contact.  If you can do that, it will be really easy to pay for things.  You could even add a password, transaction limits, and other security features.  So not only is this easier than a credit card, but safer.

Now you have a better merchant and consumer experience to propel mass adoption.

For a start we need more sites like these :

https://www.litebit.eu/home/dash/nl/?page=landing&coin=drk&lang=nl

To be honest i havent tried that specific site out yet (i will do that soon, for now i'm using it pure as example) but appearently it has several fiat currencies
 (EUR, USD, Pounds, New Turkish Lira, Swiss Franc, Polish Zloty) that can be exchanged for Dash directly (they seem to have 14K Dash available to buy) and visa versa.

Now if they can somehow implement InstantX for Dash, traders / users could be in and out of Dash / FIAT very fast.

Payment methods :



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[eduffield]

Was The Instamine A Positive Thing For Dash?

https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118

TLDR: The instamine was a bug that turned into a feature, it's also why we're continuing to be a success.