[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[TanteStefana2]

whats the large event ive been hearing about?


new release?

A presentation at the monthly Bitcoin Wednesday meetup in Amsterdam where we have 4 presenters (I think, or more?) and Evan, our lead developer, said he will be revealing his plans for replacing DarkSend, our anonymity technology, with something that promises to be far better.  As well as other plans for the future of Dash. As I've stated above, I'm so excited I think I'm going to have a heart attack before I get to hear it!  Ugh!

[TanteStefana2]

Wed ?!
 

But like, are they going to post a video of it and if so how prompt are they about that sort of thing? Iv seen it take weeks/months for videos of shit to finally hit the internet.

Sure we will post a video after
will that take:
1 day ?
1 week ?
i do not know as i do NOT have that video yet !
am i going to amsterdam ?
no i do not.
so i will post it as soon as get it !
as always
 

If you're posting it Tungfa, please post a rough cut as soon as you get it, and worry about a pretty version later??? Please!

Mangled Blue, you're always so vividly colorful when you're excited, LOL. I can't stop laughing!

[TanteStefana2]

Hope there will be GOOD video footage this time, where you can actually hear the questions from the audience and such

Also, anyone have a clue about the recent dump? Bit suspicious that it happens just before the DEVS are starting some sort of promotion tour Before any XMR fudsters start, your coin is down more

1. A good habit as a speaker, is to repeat the question into the mic.

We've been speculating at dashtalk.org, but have come to no real conclusions other than we need to get marketing and the word out.  We also need a market place.  A regular, non-illegal market place.  In my opinion, something like Etsy would be fantastic.  Ebay and Etsy either take a huge cut of your sales or else require you to pay to advertise your wares so they can be found along with high fees.  Being a little old lady that's into little old lady shit, I know that we trade crafts internationally all the time, and using crypto would save us a ton of money.  But where to sell?

I think we need Open Bazaar actually working, and I can see it working on the Masternode network best.  These little old ladies are so frustrated with the difficulties of selling and having their tiny sales chopped 15% just for the privilege of selling, they've moved to other platforms many times.  In fact, Etsy's success is due to these same little old ladies.  So don't discount us!  We're motivated!

[qwizzie]

It must suck having a troll account where one worked soo hard on,
only to find out the whole forum pretty much has you on ignore and
your so called "message" gets lost right after hitting the send button.

edit : hmmm, i guess your fud message did not get lost after all Adam .. you win  

[TanteStefana2]

Why Open Bazaar is a uniquely natural fit for the Dash Network.

The Open Bazaar team are old fashioned in that they believe there should be no fees to use it.  But as Bitcoin and Dash have proven, no compensation = no hosts.  Dash already has a secure compensation setup and a secure - always on - network that can host Open Bazaar.  It could be voluntary or an integrated part of the Masternode network.  But should be compensated.  The compensation should of course be super minimal, especially when compared to current options for sellers.  IMO 1% charge would be extremely high. And this compares with Ebay/Paypal combo of nearly 15%

Like I said above, I'm a hobbyist who buys and sells.  Actually, I've stopped selling because it's just not worth it with the skimming of all profits and more by Ebay and Etsy and Paypal.  I was there when Etsy and many other auction type sites came up, and we moved to sell in these new market places hoping they would take.  Some didn't take, but I tell you, Etsy took because of little old ladies like myself and because they marketed themselves.

So I suggest that the best way to get Crypto Currencies used by the general population is to have a legal, international marketplace.  Market it every time we market Dash.  Accept different payment options by being inclusive, and using converting tools, like that little fox one???  Forgot their name ;P  Make it EASY to use!  Make it versatile!  Not just Bitcoin, not just Dash, but everything that makes sense with every service that wants to integrate.  It all will get converted to Dash to pay the Masternodes.  And if you use Dash, you have a more direct payment system with slightly less fees (as you won't need to use any of the conversion services)  So it will at the same time be more advantageous for Dash.

We could have the biggest marketplace the world has ever seen, with the lowest fees.  Believe me, build it and they will come.  Those little old lady crafters are FED UP!  I'm sure many others are too.  But I can assure you, I'll be marketing such a storefront system to all the crafting groups I belong to, and I belong to a lot of 'em.  But until there is something to use, I can't sell Dash to them, or any crypto currency.  It's all mumbo jumbo to them until they are motivated.  And believe me, they WILL be motivated if we build this!

[TanteStefana2]

OMG Mangled, I'm crackin up!         

[AdamWhite]

Always a good time to buy DASH right Mangled Blue? Better listen to Minotaur26 and EvanTheInstaminer and BUY BUY BUY!!!

[Jestah]

Right then - today should be PAYOUT day

Active Duration    6 days 12 minutes 39 seconds

Let's see if moocowmoo's "fix" get's my MN paid today/soon
-I have faith :-D


okay - outty - DEAL ME IN!!!

It should be, my last payment was almost 7 days ago and it came in this morning.

[olcaytu2005]

 
 @AdamWhite, do you have desire for revenge? Revenge is a dish best served cold but this is still hot. So it can burn your tongue mate.

[eduffield]

...

Uh - I do think that your suppose the BUY on the down slide [dumb-ass]

I really do think you'd pitch a bitch if fucking McDonald's said you get 200 fries with each order - and by accident they gave you 202...
You'd really flip your shit huh??
The sad thing is that you actually counted those damn fries...
[fucking dumb-ass kid]
siktir git

I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

If we break above 0.011, I believe this was a false breakdown <-- We never broke above 0.011


I guess trolls can't read? Not surprising. Anyway, I'm still buying.  

[AdamWhite]

I gave 2 conditions for my trade and neither confirmed.

Anyway, I'm still buying.  

So you're buying even though neither confirmed?

Why even bother with posting TA if you're not going to follow your own rules?


Edit: LOL Evan edit your post a little more  

Evan's original reply:

I gave 2 conditions for my trade and neither confirmed.

Moving averages are crossing as we speak, so momentum is changing from negative to positive: <-- the MA's actually never crossed



If we break above 0.011, I believe this was a false breakdown <-- We never broke above 0.011



I guess trolls can't read? Not surprising. Anyway, I'm still buying.

Which he then changed to:

I gave a condition for my trade and it didn't confirm.

If we break above 0.011, I believe this was a false breakdown <-- We never broke above 0.011


I guess trolls can't read? Not surprising. Anyway, I'm still buying.  

What happened?  Did the MA's cross after all and instead of acknowledging it you just deleted it? Classic eduffield

[wozzek23]

I guess trolls can't read? Not surprising. Anyway, I'm still buying.  

Good to hear that. So am I.

However, in a case like DASH I wonder, what would its intrinsic value be? Still zero?

That's why I was pondering an IPO (MN as class A shares, ordinary shares to be bought and sold on a market while the currency acts on its own) for I'd like to see a real value. This brings up a question - if a Virtual Company behind DASH would offer its own MN service and have a bunch of real servers, not unlike Google's servers, would it not be a step toward a real, tangible asset?

[toknormal]

This brings up a question - if a Virtual Company behind DASH would offer its own MN service and have a bunch of real servers, not unlike Google's servers, would it not be a step toward a real, tangible asset?

I think the 'virtual company' metaphor related to the process of governance, not the expression of value as a stock.

The value comes from the token adopting a decentralised monetary role, not a utility-asset role, since the absence of a trusted third party is an essential factor in its definition as unbacked, base money. If the token represents no more than a 'share' in a company then it no longer has any intrinsic value as money - it simply serves as a proxy for a corporate body of ambiguous economic worth.

[toknormal]

Well, despite all the gleeful troll-gloating over the price decline, there still isn't enough selling going on in the Dash/BTC market because I just logged into Cryptsy and was astounded to see my orders - posted 24 hours ago well up the 8 range - NOT FILLED !

I'm still a couple of hundred Dash short of a collateral multiple and the 4-hour MACD's about to complete its correction, so what do I do ? Wait longer for the dumper or move my orders up ?

[Probleminfected]

Let's take a trip down memory lane...

I'm seeing all sorts of stuff happening in the charts all at once, which is a great sign when you see a bunch of bullish formations at once. This is how I used to day trade for my firm back in the day. The general idea here is you go from the shortest time period, then you walk out to the longest. If you see bullish or bearish signals in all of the charts at once, it's quite meaningful. Here's what I'm seeing:

On the really short term chart, there's a triple top:



Moving averages are crossing as we speak, so momentum is changing from negative to positive:


If you step out a bit, It looks like we're going to cross in a couple days, for a much more meaningful MA


If we break above 0.011, I believe this was a false breakdown


When trading, there's also a couple other things to consider:
- The order book on the buy side, which is quite nice.
- Then there's the fundamental side for the trade (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GACaNvBlwc, The budget system and governance system? Plus everything we're about to do)
 
Away, that was fun.... back to coding

So EvanTheInstaminer is as bad at trading as he is at testing his software.

Wow finally something new, thank you.


But why do you care so much what people do with their money?

Do you care when you see people buy a crap product in a store?

Do you feel the need to tell/yell at them how stupid they are for buying that POS product in person?  Like a crappy car or something?

If so, you must have no friends and everyone around you hates you and wants to kick you ass.

I know you have a giant shield called the computer screen, but I doubt you'd say anything to anyone in person if they were to buy something you thought was dumb.

[wozzek23]

If the token represents no more than a 'share' in a company then it no longer has any intrinsic value as money - it simply serves as a proxy for a corporate body of ambiguous economic worth.

I did not say a token represents a share. As I see it - in this hypothetical mulling over - MNs could act as class "A" shares, so MN owners can have an advantage of "first investors" and the company, if there would ever be a company, could issue its shares. Token stays as a monetary unit and trades separately.

The value comes from the token adopting a decentralised monetary role, not a utility-asset role, since the absence of a trusted third party is an essential factor in its definition as unbacked, base money.

So, we're going back to thinking of DASH as a currency (say XDA for the prefix 'X' denotes a non-national affiliation or a monetary metal) that is "competing" (trading for) against other currencies like USD or YPY, otherwise what would determine its value? Me willing to buy some tokens for "X" amount of fiat and your readiness to match the price and sell it to me?

It seems like a vacuum to me, the vacuum that would suck the life out of this project unless it starts living outside our small lunatic fringe community...

[TaoOfSaatoshi]

The trolls are loving this moment, let them enjoy. It's a party for them when Dash loses significant value like this. Their shallow lives seem fulfilled, as sad as that is.

Remember, the focus here is long term. All of this current price action is just background noise that the sideshow clowns amplify as part of their show. Nothing has changed fundamentally, news is almost always positive, we are building the foundation for the future.

As I've mentioned before, most people I talk with outside of this toxic environment are bullish on Dash. How could they not be? A quality product backed by a solid community and dev team, with a business case for real-world use. Ignore the price swings, let the dogs have their day, and focus long term. The future is extremely bright. Now, back to your regularly scheduled clowning...

[toknormal]

... unless it starts living outside our small lunatic fringe community...

No arguments there.   

[TheDasher]

DASH is crashing pretty hard even with McDuff and OTOH pumping as hard as they can, making appearences at conferences and the like.  I speculate we will see 006 pretty soon the question is how low will it go beyond that.

[TheDasher]

When there is blood in the streets.... BUY BUY BUY

And who knows what the bottom will be, but, buy all the way down to it.

Even if you don't like Dash, anyone can make a ton of cash when the bounce happens.

Bounce will be good to make a few bucks but I speculate we are still far from the bottom.  Too many people gave up on DASH because of all the problems it has as well as its toxic community.