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October 26, 2015, 05:02:59 PM

This is now as good as any time to get in, I should have waited to get more in now and not then. Either way I'm still at a good investment to value ratio.

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October 26, 2015, 05:04:39 PM

Restart it...

Yes, I bet you'd love to be able to go back in time and invest in something, anything that would provide you with a better life, we all would...

But we shouldn't blame others for our own mistakes and could've, should'ves.

There are plenty of cryptos with big potential that i'm invested in, the world doesn't end at Dash. 13M usd marketcap after 2 years is not that big of an accomplishment. As a fan since early 2014, i just wanted to see this project having a clean history, nothing else.

This guy Evan Instaminefield built Dash on greed and deceit, that's the problem. He underestimated everyone, because almost every shitcoin developer was doing shady things and getting away with it in 2014. If he could only come up with the "budgeting system" before releasing the coin, none of this would've happened.

The absolute worst people in history, ranked by the wisdom of the crowd: "Vlad the Impaler", "Mihnea the Evil", "Ivan the Terrible" and "Evan the Instaminer".
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October 26, 2015, 05:05:38 PM

All the bumps.  I am thankful for the trolls, it's nice to know they are looking out for me.  Such unsolicited kindness.

When the trolls leave is when DASH will be in trouble and we should be worried.  As long as they are here and acting butthurt, I'm buying.
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October 26, 2015, 05:07:21 PM


This guy Evan ...He underestimated everyone

Judging by your level of frustration, you got that the wrong way around....everyone underestimated him.
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October 26, 2015, 05:17:56 PM

Dash Masterclass in
Moscow/ Russia
, 28 October 2015
(unofficial)

http://hselab.ru/news/mnogoobeshchayushchaya-raspredelennost-seriya-master-klassov-po-blokcheyn-tehnologii-v-hselab-v



based on this:
«The second master class scheduled for October 28 will be dedicated not to Bitcoin, but to the cryptocurrency Dash. Students will learn more about this currency’s enhanced privacy features, how to use it and how Dash’s blockchain differs from Bitcoin. The master classes are free of charge.»

http://cointelegraph.com/news/115465/bitrubles-qiwi-moscow-high-school-of-economics-launch-blockchain-master-classes
piiing
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October 26, 2015, 05:19:44 PM

Dash News Bot
now available on Telegram
(telegram is a Chat App, similar to Wahtdsup, only better  Wink)

http://telegram.me/dashnews

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October 26, 2015, 05:22:30 PM

the foundation is playing a different role these days, as we switched to the voting/budget system for governance and funding and away from a foundation/donation model like other projects.

The foundation just represents us for some things where a legal entity is required, as you can't operate as a community for many things in the real world. So I would say the foundation role at this point is more on the legal representation side and not at all on project management

OK, so who (or what entity) was the beneficiary of the instamine and used/will use the proceeds to fund development?

Evan, THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION, Hawk Financial Group, or....?

You guys never stick to and follow through on any previously announced plans.  Even the foundation has been relaunched/rebranded!

It's just a never-ending cascade of baits and switches, keeping the bagholder hopes up that if they just buy a little more, the moon rocket will take off.

Why not focus on one thing, and do it better than everyone?  Given the severely botched launch, Duffield is no software da Vinci polymath!

Why keep hopping from goal to goal, does this project not have a core competency on which to concentrate?

Perhaps marketing shitcoin-based HYIP scams (with constantly receding goalposts to string along credulous noobs) is Dash's core competency.


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October 26, 2015, 05:24:33 PM


stale evergrowing garbage

iCEBREAKER - you sure do let your belly rumble loudly in public. We've got the t-shirt, now stfu and get yourself a life.

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October 26, 2015, 05:24:47 PM


Restart it...

You missed that boat. Get over it.

2 years after that, Dash is more alive than ever. Think about that.  

....and I'd wouldn't mess with aleix right now. Looks like his local mayor's been making secret visits down at Bitcoin Barcelona  Wink  (Must be the free beer effect).





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October 26, 2015, 05:27:23 PM

Nobody else successfully implemented blockchain governance until DASH built it into its protocol. I don't see how BTC can ever get out of its own way enough to clone those features. They still have no agreement on a lot of the problems that face bitcoin presently. Until I see that improve I don't believe BTC will simply clone DASH.

They themselves have a foundation, and its proven to be ineffective at funding development. That's why Evan implemented DGBB, after learning the limitations of a foundation.

BTC might be the standard that drives all Cryptocurrency, but who says we can't improve on the standard if the standard refuses to change?

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October 26, 2015, 05:36:39 PM

It's just a never-ending cascade of baits and switches, keeping the bagholder hopes up that if they just buy a little more, the moon rocket will take off.

Just like it's just a never-ending cascade of trolling and fud trying to generate drama, keeping the bagholder hopes up that if the big bad DASH would just go away, the Moronero rocket would take off?
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October 26, 2015, 05:39:15 PM

just tell Evan to restart the project.

I for one have actually considered what might happen if he did that.

There'd probably be a mad scramble by miners, a scramble in the markets and the cap would go straight back to where it is now

Tell him to restart, take it from 0...
So you can now buy shitload of it for pennies and make a buck.


You're missing the point.  The Trolleros don't want to buy back in for pennies or mine it at the start.  The Trolleros want a relaunch as it would destroy DASH.  Then they would be the "serious anonymous project".

Complete delusion.
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October 26, 2015, 05:40:26 PM


Restart it...

You missed that boat. Get over it.

2 years after that, Dash is more alive than ever. Think about that.  

....and I'd wouldn't mess with aleix right now. Looks like his local mayor's been making secret visits down at Bitcoin Barcelona  Wink  (Must be the free beer effect).







The free beer always helps to do the right thing Wink

I don't have a big expectation about that coin, Tok. This coin will be sure centralized by the mayorship. Although I am sure this will help the poor here, we are really screwed in the south of Europe.

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October 26, 2015, 05:40:42 PM

I know people are having trust issues with a bunch of exchanges lately, so I tried https://shapeshift.io/ and WOW they are fast and easy.  Went from BTC to DASH in my wallet within 10 minutes.

Give it a try.
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October 26, 2015, 05:43:00 PM
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Restart it...

You missed that boat. Get over it.

2 years after that, Dash is more alive than ever. Think about that.  

Anyone who took Evan at his word and believed he would wait to (instead of ninja-ambush) launch the insta-mine "missed that boat."

If you really want Dash to succeed or fail based on technical merit instead of instamine shame, you'd support a relaunch.

Not sure what you mean by "more alive than ever."

There is still no (publicly available) optimized miner.  Small wonder >50% of the hashrate is at one pool, given that fact.

vertoe and that other dev are long gone, and never coming back.

The goal of implementing ring signatures is dead, buried, and forgotten.  Ditto for masternode blinding and I2P.

The price, after a brief spike of rebrand hype, has been falling ever since the day Darkcoin officially became Dash.

It's a classic pump and dump.  Anyone not brainwashed by the cult can see it.

Here, I'll draw a picture to help deprogram you.



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October 26, 2015, 05:45:46 PM

Has anybody thought about renting super computer time for mining X11? When I read about the TITAN supercomputer running off of a series of gpus the imagination starts to really come into play here.

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October 26, 2015, 05:48:16 PM


I don't have a big expectation about that coin, Tok. This coin will be sure centralized by the mayorship. Although I am sure this will help the poor here, we are really screwed in the south of Europe.

Neither do I, but I think the fact that these initiatives are being tried shows that the whole idea of monetary diversification is starting to put pressure on the institutions.

There is a similar kind of initiative going on in Scotland: http://www.neweconomics.org/blog/entry/scotpound-a-new-digital-currency-for-scotland

I had a brief email chat once with the guy who is behind that initiative. He knows all about bitcoin and blockchain based currencies but as with the Barcelona one, they're attempting to do a "fiat backed by fiat" job. Maybe it will take a few banana skins like these for them to eventually arrive at the 'real thing'.
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October 26, 2015, 05:51:30 PM

The difference between envy and jealousy

Envy happens when you see somebody else experiencing something you’d like to have. You get a wishful feeling inside, like you want what they have. But this feeling does not necessarily lead to jealousy, you see; you can be envious of somebody’s situation and make common cause with them. For example, say one of your friends is doing a workout routine and has gotten into really good shape. You envy them, and thus you come up to them and ask them what their secret is, and maybe even whether you can join them and do what they do. This is an example of an envious response that leads not to jealousy, but rather to motivating, progressive thinking.

Jealousy is different; it is an altogether negative, regressive state of mind. The jealous thought says “I want what you have, and thus until I have it, you shouldn’t have it either.” This is very different from simple envy, because now the emphasis is not on you moving forward, but rather on keeping the other person back. That’s why jealousy can be so destructive and all-consuming; the jealous individual gets into a state of mind that presumes the right to control other people’s pleasure! Yikes. Even if they say nothing at all, the feelings are still there, and the air becomes heavy with them.

Little feelings of jealousy are understandable sometimes, and I will talk about why in a minute. However, once we get into a situation of chronic jealousy, I don’t think it is extreme to say that there is potential abuse down the road, since jealousy involves that sense of entitlement to control. There’s definitely a really big incentive out there for folks that are prone to jealousy to work on themselves to minimize the recurrence of such all-consuming feelings. Jealousy is not an emotion that should be embraced as a sign that strong love exists. In fact, it’s the opposite; jealousy comes from a perspective of self-preservation, not love towards others. Now let’s talk about why that is.
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October 26, 2015, 05:55:08 PM

Has anybody thought about renting super computer time for mining X11? When I read about the TITAN supercomputer running off of a series of gpus the imagination starts to really come into play here.
I remember someone saying they throw 1 gigahash at the mining, and it pushed the difficulty up and caused instablities at the pool, so its a catch 22 situation, and also if you're talking ultra quick then there is a getwork supply problem from the network, so your mega quantum powered computer is just a little too fast for everything around it to keep up.

Dash is 27.3 times faster with syncing and updating than Bitcoin and 93.7 times faster than Monero. Bitcoin (v0.11.0) has a Tao ratio 11.2% faster than bitcoin (v0.10.0) release.
Dash (v.0.12.0.49) = Tao sync ratio = 0.15 seconds / hour of update || Dash (v.0.11.2.23) = Tao sync ratio = 0.24 seconds / hour of update. V12 versus V11 speedup = +36.5%
Bitcoin (v.0.11.0) = Tao sync ratio = 4.14 seconds / hour of update || Monero (v.0.41.1)  = Tao sync ratio = 14.2 seconds / hour of update
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October 26, 2015, 05:56:31 PM


Cool post and everything, but the coin you support isn't doing so well.

In fact, the subject of iCEBREAKER's 'privacy' propaganda just took another nosedive and is now heading for sub 001, unlikely to ever return due to being as compatible as a candle in a light-socket with the emerging cryptocurrency ecosystem.
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