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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722683 times)
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October 20, 2015, 02:22:50 AM


Nice!

Good to see that someone has finally been picking up the ideas of Datacoin and went forward.
You mean DigiByte?
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October 20, 2015, 02:31:45 AM


Nice!

Good to see that someone has finally been picking up the ideas of Datacoin and went forward.
You mean DigiByte?

He means Datacoin an old coin from 2013 that experimented with decentralized storage I don't think is still going though. Why would he mean DigiByte? I don't remember that having any sort of technical improvements.
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October 20, 2015, 02:45:01 AM


Nice!

Good to see that someone has finally been picking up the ideas of Datacoin and went forward.
You mean DigiByte?

He means Datacoin an old coin from 2013 that experimented with decentralized storage I don't think is still going though. Why would he mean DigiByte? I don't remember that having any sort of technical improvements.
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October 20, 2015, 02:46:40 AM

The development plan seems to promise so much that is almost unbelievable given that in crypto a lot of the things we are dealing with are compromises: If you fix something, you break something else (make it operate in a non-optimal way). If even half of what is promised can be delivered without compromising security, decentralization, etc, it'll be great.
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October 20, 2015, 05:35:50 AM

The development plan seems to promise so much that is almost unbelievable given that in crypto a lot of the things we are dealing with are compromises: If you fix something, you break something else (make it operate in a non-optimal way). If even half of what is promised can be delivered without compromising security, decentralization, etc, it'll be great.

The entirety of Crystallographic currency has been based on a single layer network.  I think making a two tier network has opened tons of doors.  That and now, using quorums to split the tasks has simply empowered an already super healthy Masternode Network possibly eventually over 1000 fold (currently, what? 660 fold?) over "traditional" ways.

So, IMO, it's not magic, it's simply harnessing ideas from other walks of technology for use in cryptographic currencies.  Bitcoin hasn't done anything, really, NOTHING since I got here in December 2013.  They may have cleaned up the code, made the wallet work smoother, but have introduced nothing structurally new that a person like me can see.  I know you coders can appreciate whatever they did do.  And I'll admit, my wallet did download in a couple of days recently rather than 3 weeks, like it took the first time I tried, but frankly that's boring.

The technology that the Dash team are introducing isn't mumbo jumbo, it isn't untested.  Sure it may be untested in this type of use, but it has been tested in other uses and reviewed and shown to work so why not in this instance?  

Anyway, Just saying, no magic here, only thinking outside the box and doing research.  In other words, hard work with clear goals and an abundance of intelligence and wisdom.

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October 20, 2015, 07:36:22 AM



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October 20, 2015, 02:00:25 PM

The development plan seems to promise so much that is almost unbelievable given that in crypto a lot of the things we are dealing with are compromises: If you fix something, you break something else (make it operate in a non-optimal way). If even half of what is promised can be delivered without compromising security, decentralization, etc, it'll be great.

The entirety of Crystallographic currency has been based on a single layer network.  I think making a two tier network has opened tons of doors.  That and now, using quorums to split the tasks has simply empowered an already super healthy Masternode Network possibly eventually over 1000 fold (currently, what? 660 fold?) over "traditional" ways.

So, IMO, it's not magic, it's simply harnessing ideas from other walks of technology for use in cryptographic currencies.  Bitcoin hasn't done anything, really, NOTHING since I got here in December 2013.  They may have cleaned up the code, made the wallet work smoother, but have introduced nothing structurally new that a person like me can see.  I know you coders can appreciate whatever they did do.  And I'll admit, my wallet did download in a couple of days recently rather than 3 weeks, like it took the first time I tried, but frankly that's boring.

The technology that the Dash team are introducing isn't mumbo jumbo, it isn't untested.  Sure it may be untested in this type of use, but it has been tested in other uses and reviewed and shown to work so why not in this instance?  

Anyway, Just saying, no magic here, only thinking outside the box and doing research.  In other words, hard work with clear goals and an abundance of intelligence and wisdom.

 Grin Cheesy Wink Grin

Well-said, Stef. As with everything, Evan builds something, and then that paves the way for something else, and so forth. For instance:

a) He created a two-tier network with incentivized masternodes so that these nodes could host mixing sessions for Darksend

That worked out really well, and then he saw another opportunity. We already have a masternode network, so why not give them another job?

b) Evan realized that fractions of the masternode network (quorums) could agree on the validity of a transaction and "lock" it, even before the block containing the transaction was published. Due to statistics, it's impossible for anybody to attack this system without owning a majority of the masternodes and thus having an enormous stake in the currency. We call this InstantX and it's the first step on a very important journey: it's where Evan realizes that "sharding" is possible. More on this later.

Once this worked well and was solid, he then realized:

c) Masternodes could be allowed to vote on changes to the network, which would allow the devs to have a good idea of what the community wanted.

And then, taking that a step further:

d) People could submit proposals and masternodes could vote on whether to fund these proposals. These votes would be binding and the funds would be paid directly from the protocol.

Now, Evan has realized that he can take this principle of "sharding" that is already used for InstantX and take it further. He's basically doing what all online roleplaying games have done for years (Everquest, World of Warcraft, etc.). Instead of every node processing every transaction or request for service, decentralized quorums can be used to provide that functionality. This allows vastly increased transactions per second, etc.

I'm really excited about this, as well as the decentralized API and the built-in anonymity and improved masternode blinding. The future looks really impressive.

One last thing: we tend to get distracted by the trolls here and they can make it look like the whole world is skeptical. But look at what's happening in the real world--Evan has secured an invite to one of the most prestigious bitcoin conferences in the world. Real people are listening. Really important people.

P.S. Dash currently has a marketcap of around $14 million. This is literally pocket change when thinking about real world numbers. When stuff like Tender, WhatsApp, Snapchat, Twitter, Uber, AirBnB, Facebook, etc. are worth BILLIONS...the return on our Dash investment could be beyond staggering. Ever wonder what it would have been like to get in on Bitcoin in 2010? You may very well find out in a few years.

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October 20, 2015, 03:04:22 PM

Anyone know if there is a deterministic dash wallet or if it is in the pipeline?

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October 20, 2015, 03:13:57 PM

Anyone know if there is a deterministic dash wallet or if it is in the pipeline?



I heard Electrum for Dash is nearly finished.
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October 20, 2015, 03:17:24 PM

I don't suppose Trezor could be used to issue masternode start commands? Is there a deterministic wallet that can?

We really need a better solution...I hate having to load my keys onto a hot pc to scrape off my MN payments or to start my MNs.

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October 20, 2015, 03:22:50 PM

Anyone know if there is a deterministic dash wallet or if it is in the pipeline?



I heard Electrum for Dash is nearly finished.

Who is creating electrum wallet?

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October 20, 2015, 03:29:28 PM

Anyone know if there is a deterministic dash wallet or if it is in the pipeline?



I heard Electrum for Dash is nearly finished.

Who is creating electrum wallet?

Evan at Dashtalk:
"The electrum client has been implemented and is done. We should have this released soon, then I will make the final payment to the developers for $750."

Funded by blockchain.

https://dashtalk.org/threads/october-2015-budget-proposal.6234/
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October 20, 2015, 03:36:20 PM

I don't suppose Trezor could be used to issue masternode start commands? Is there a deterministic wallet that can?

We really need a better solution...I hate having to load my keys onto a hot pc to scrape off my MN payments or to start my MNs.
I remember Evan wanted to implement the token which is generated for the tx id or something like that for starting the node without loading the wallet with the coins....

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October 20, 2015, 03:45:07 PM

I don't suppose Trezor could be used to issue masternode start commands? Is there a deterministic wallet that can?

We really need a better solution...I hate having to load my keys onto a hot pc to scrape off my MN payments or to start my MNs.
I remember Evan wanted to implement the token which is generated for the tx id or something like that for starting the node without loading the wallet with the coins....

I remember that too...I'm assuming it probably took a backseat to Evolution though

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October 20, 2015, 06:57:20 PM

Interesting 10K (90 BTC) sell wall at 0.009 on Cryptsy ... who wants 10 masternodes on discount ?  Grin

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October 20, 2015, 07:07:43 PM

Interesting 10K (90 BTC) sell wall at 0.009 on Cryptsy ... who wants 10 masternodes on discount ?  Grin

It's annoying the Cryptsy doesn't show more of the order book. I'd like to know if this is part of the large wall that's been up > .01 for a few weeks or is new.

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October 20, 2015, 07:11:50 PM

Interesting 10K (90 BTC) sell wall at 0.009 on Cryptsy ... who wants 10 masternodes on discount ?  Grin
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October 20, 2015, 07:14:40 PM

Guys,
does anybody have problem with Cryptsy???

BTC withdrawal takes more then 3hrs and still no TX??

Weird, always they act swiftly!

I'm currently on 22 hrs waiting on a withdrawal < 5 BTC. I have not contacted support yet.

Edit: Forgot to add that I did get a 3 BTC withdraw out two days ago. Took 2-3 hrs I think.

Either way it looks like cryptsy is slowly dying.. Sad Buy side has completely dropped off and volumes going down day by day. There's a large sell side there but no takers. 12k+ sells and 800 buys. All seems a bit terminal to me... If I was the seller I'd be moving my stack from there an onto another exchange quick.

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Fudders are working, they are angry because Ether, maid, etc are falling and dash price is strong

Be careful.
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