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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9723476 times)
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March 03, 2016, 09:29:07 AM



Dash depositing takes less than 12 seconds (looks very cool in comparison with 12 confirmations that requires poloniex).
It is great for everyone who uses Exchanges as a simplified "mixer"-anonymizer through altcoins.
You can quickly deposit Dash - "launder" money through the EXMO - and can withdraw them quickly (including Fiat currencies)!

 Neat little feature, but not the best marketing copywrite alex  Grin

 "launder" and "exhcange =  gasoline + fire  Tongue


I`ve never understood that. I`ve heard people using tumblers and mixers when they want more anonymity, when they could go to some exchange and trade BTC for XY and back again. So I thought that exchanges somehow keep track of it.
How is it?

 Because tumblers/mixerss usually operate under TOR and are by default rogue agents, while exchanges are legal entities with AML and KYL practices, and if not, I wouldn't touch them with a 2000km titanium pole.
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March 03, 2016, 09:51:54 AM
Last edit: March 03, 2016, 10:05:26 AM by toknormal


This is a fantastic interview.

Everyone in the whole world should watch this. I can now stop posting all over bitcointalk on this subject, relax and go ski-ing because all the points I've been trying to make are now hammered home so thouroughly that I can see this argument reaching critical mass.

This is a watershed interview and Dash's long term future is now fully secured IMO.

Whatever you do DO NOT watch minute 22:48. It may adversely impact your (Bitcoin or fiat) wallet.

It's also at the top of today's bitcoinchannel feed.
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March 03, 2016, 10:04:50 AM



Dash depositing takes less than 12 seconds (looks very cool in comparison with 12 confirmations that requires poloniex).
It is great for everyone who uses Exchanges as a simplified "mixer"-anonymizer through altcoins.
You can quickly deposit Dash - "launder" money through the EXMO - and can withdraw them quickly (including Fiat currencies)!

 Neat little feature, but not the best marketing copywrite alex  Grin

 "launder" and "exhcange =  gasoline + fire  Tongue


I`ve never understood that. I`ve heard people using tumblers and mixers when they want more anonymity, when they could go to some exchange and trade BTC for XY and back again. So I thought that exchanges somehow keep track of it.
How is it?

Because different people need different level of privacy.

Some people don't want to hide their transactions from the "whole world" - they just want to hide them from: wife, neighbor, competitor, his country's officials, ...
So it's not a problem for them if FBI gets their transaction history from exchange.  Smiley

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March 03, 2016, 10:43:31 AM

Because tumblers/mixerss usually operate under TOR and are by default rogue agents, while exchanges are legal entities with AML and KYL practices, and if not, I wouldn't touch them with a 2000km titanium pole.

Thanks. But Bittrex and Polo don`t give a fuck of who you actually are, right? You can open as many accounts as you want. But maybe you wouldn`t touch them with that pole  Cheesy
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March 03, 2016, 11:12:49 AM

Because tumblers/mixerss usually operate under TOR and are by default rogue agents, while exchanges are legal entities with AML and KYL practices, and if not, I wouldn't touch them with a 2000km titanium pole.

Thanks. But Bittrex and Polo don`t give a fuck of who you actually are, right? You can open as many accounts as you want. But maybe you wouldn`t touch them with that pole  Cheesy

 Given the fact that the Poloniex front-end is a bogus trading platform due to it's spectacular lag and "ooops, sorry, servers crashed", constant non-triggering orders at critical times, basically feeding the API bots... No, I would not touch Poloniex with any sort of pole, ever more.

 They don't "give a carp" as long as you dont trade FIAT, but there is a 2k equity withdrawal limit, so take that into account.

 If you are doing funny things, your IP is massively easier to attain and crap loads easier to hunt you down, if they so wish.

 But, as mentioned, yup, they can indeed work great as low-level mixers.
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March 03, 2016, 11:20:31 AM


 If you are doing funny things, your IP is massively easier to attain and crap loads easier to hunt you down, if they so wish.


Oh, just for the records, I don`t do funny things, as I`m far too noobish for this stuff. I can`t even use TOR. But I like reading about this and try to understand it. Thanks for the info!
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 If you are doing funny things, your IP is massively easier to attain and crap loads easier to hunt you down, if they so wish.


Oh, just for the records, I don`t do funny things, as I`m far too noobish for this stuff. I can`t even use TOR. But I like reading about this and try to understand it. Thanks for the info!

you better call reuben (Boleh) for a VPN
changed my life  Wink
(and tor and the onion world i can tell you some)
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 If you are doing funny things, your IP is massively easier to attain and crap loads easier to hunt you down, if they so wish.


Oh, just for the records, I don`t do funny things, as I`m far too noobish for this stuff. I can`t even use TOR. But I like reading about this and try to understand it. Thanks for the info!

you better call reuben (Boleh) for a VPN
changed my life  Wink
(and tor and the onion world i can tell you some)

Yup, another shoutout to BolehVPN (and Reuben, he's awesome.)

 I simply cannot live without VPN right now. I am always on the move, and Boleh is rock solid !  Increased my internet speed, I feel much safer, and in certain 3rd world countries I visit, I can actually surf the unrestricted 100% clearnet without issues. Even in europe, lots of bullshit censoring going on. No fake ISP throttling any more.
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March 03, 2016, 03:07:06 PM


This is a fantastic interview.

Everyone in the whole world should watch this. I can now stop posting all over bitcointalk on this subject, relax and go ski-ing because all the points I've been trying to make are now hammered home so thouroughly that I can see this argument reaching critical mass.

This is a watershed interview and Dash's long term future is now fully secured IMO.

Whatever you do DO NOT watch minute 22:48. It may adversely impact your (Bitcoin or fiat) wallet.

It's also at the top of today's bitcoinchannel feed.

Bump - Yes, very good show!

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 Dental care is cheap at your end, hum?
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March 03, 2016, 04:33:01 PM

For what it's worth, Bill Gross thinks banks are doomed, too:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/03/investing/bill-gross-janus-banks-stocks/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

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March 03, 2016, 05:17:56 PM


I still don't think he 'gets' it.  Once you can take out a loan with negative interest, fiat loses it's value.  There is no reason to ever pay the loan back.  A negative interest rate isn't just a temporary indicator that will bounce back.  

His statement, "Luckily the banks are not charging average customers with negative interest rates.", is misleading.  Banks will use the monthly maintenance fee to implement the equivalent of negative rates.  Eventually, customers will leave as this fee increases.
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March 03, 2016, 05:24:21 PM

 Dental care is cheap at your end, hum?


i will explain u how cheap that are

my monthly income is 650 lei that is 150 euro - apartment cost-water cold+warm in 1 month i have maximum 50 euros to eat something
maybe now u anderstand why i need help tnx man

1 teth repair cost 80 lei
1 operation my nerve must be killed and repair after cost 140 lei
140 lei =30-35 euro thats cheap yes but i dont have the money for it
witch the money what i have per month i cant live very goood u anderstand this ?
tnx man for help the man ho send me 1 dasch tnx
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March 03, 2016, 05:26:13 PM


 Dental care is cheap at your end, hum?


i will explain u how cheap that are

my monthly income is 650 lei that is 150 euro

1 teth repair cost 80 lei
1 operation my nerve must be killed and repair after cost 140 lei
140 lei =30-35 euro thats cheap yes but i dont have the money for it
witch the money what i have per month i cant leave very goood u anderstand this ?
tnx man for help the man ho send me 1 dasch tnx

Just out of curiosity, how do you convert Dash/BTC to Lei in Romania (I guess)?
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March 03, 2016, 05:32:09 PM


I still don't think he 'gets' it.  Once you can take out a loan with negative interest, fiat loses it's value.  There is no reason to ever pay the loan back.  A negative interest rate isn't just a temporary indicator that will bounce back.  

His statement, "Luckily the banks are not charging average customers with negative interest rates.", is misleading.  Banks will use the monthly maintenance fee to implement the equivalent of negative rates.  Eventually, customers will leave as this fee increases.

I agree, but at least people are starting to see a glimmer of truth. You are completely right about fees increasing; banks WILL find a way to pass on any costs that affect their bottom line. Always.

It's just like when Congress was all gung-ho about ending the tax credits that oil companies get. I agree in principle, but all that's going to do is slightly increase the cost of gasoline. The oil companies will make sure to get that profit back, and will do so by passing along the costs to consumers.

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March 03, 2016, 05:58:33 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2016, 06:16:02 PM by toknormal


Must keep the observations going  Wink

The Dash/BTC 1-Day chart (relatively long range for crypto) has had two OBV crossovers to the upside during the last quarter. The first (in December) precipitated a rally off the 0.0055 bottom to near 0.01 again, then corrected back to 0.07 during a 2-week profit take.

The second occurred in mid-January and took us all the way to 0.017, into near ATH territory, then corrected over a 4-5 week profit take and a bit of a double dip before stabilising around 0.09 where we are now.

The 1-Day chart On Balance Volume signal continued to diverge from its moving average till mid February at which point it started to converge.

A new crossover has just established itself in the last 72 Hours. (In perfect sync with calendar epoch crossover as it happens in case thats of any significance to anyone Grin  )



Lets just get a closeup on that perfected crosshair....



On top of that, the 10, 21 and 100 Day EMAs are all converging to conclude their correction from the upside move initiated back in mid January.



It's hard packed folks  Wink
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March 03, 2016, 06:48:39 PM

 Dental care is cheap at your end, hum?


i will explain u how cheap that are

my monthly income is 650 lei that is 150 euro

1 teth repair cost 80 lei
1 operation my nerve must be killed and repair after cost 140 lei
140 lei =30-35 euro thats cheap yes but i dont have the money for it
witch the money what i have per month i cant leave very goood u anderstand this ?
tnx man for help the man ho send me 1 dasch tnx
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Just out of curiosity, how do you convert Dash/BTC to Lei in Romania (I guess)?

dash conver in btc is simple right  afther that u gou there  BTCXchange.ro
its very simple here                                
u can convert btc-lei   or lei-btc end thei put uour money same day in uour acont very fast
12 a clock next day u have the money in uour acount direct transfer



now can any help me witch a little cash ?
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March 03, 2016, 07:51:40 PM
Last edit: March 03, 2016, 08:13:14 PM by qwizzie

From 0.0091 to 0.0095, not bad.
Dash silently but steadily dashing forward and onward ...

Edit : looking at the Poloniex orderbook this could get interesting, it could actually lead to a major price break-out : https://dc-charts.com/depth_dash.php?ex=16&cu=0&tz=5&ar=1



Edit : 0.0097 with 1.3K buy-order support at 0.00966,  where is the popcorn when you need it  Grin

Dash volume per market over the last 24 hours :


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March 03, 2016, 08:08:40 PM


it could lead to a major outbreak

Hopefully you mean "breakout". (Although I suppose the buying could get infectious  Grin  )
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March 03, 2016, 08:13:05 PM

Do you know?
EXMO sell 0.93
Poloniex buy 0.97

XxG6WRPA5ef767m37eEbGjK8T1UPAVGdCq  - to share your profit with me  Wink

This is when InstantX does matter!  Roll Eyes

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