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"Note that you don’t need to be the owner of a masternode to see these logs. Most of the masternodes are hosted on cloudhosting services. If a government demands access to these logs, they will probably get it. It’s entirely possible that right now the NSA is spying on the majority of masternodes without the owners even knowing their masternodes are being spied upon."Just one of many grave examples that eliminate from the competition. Good reading (and viewing). Thanks for everything you guys have shared. When it sounds too good to be true . . . when it's touted as everyone's nirvana . . . . . . it's probably pie in the sky. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) (Wonder if this quote and opinion/conclusion will get me put on the almighty ignore list. Hey guys, chill a bit. It's only one person's analysis. If your product really is what you say it is, you should welcome comments like this since they give you an opportunity to shine by showing how wrong the analysis is - hopefully with reasonably intelligent arguments as I'd be the first to happily admit I'm wrong if you can objectively refute the scam accusations made against you.) Sure to get me ignored. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Warning: DASH privacy is worse than Bitcoinhttp://weuse.cash/2016/10/26/warning-dash-privacy-is-worse-than-bitcoin/This article analyses how DarkSend works and will explain why there’s absolutely no good reason to use DASH for private transactions. Why the darkcoin/dash/dashpay instamine mattershttps://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999886.0March 22, 2015 smooth explains reasons Dash hasn't gone legitimate yet -- and it may not be the reasons you've been told elsewhere. CryptoScam #4 - Dash (w/ "Really Cool Guy" Tone Vays) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrKU0Ymta-UPublished on Feb 3, 2017 In this 4th Episode of CryptoScam we explore XCoin --- Darkcoin --- Dashpay. We spend a lot of time on the early days and the events surrounding the insta-mine. We then discuss the concepts of Master Nodes (which is a defacto PoS), DarkSend & InstantX, all of which are extraordinary claims to be useful. We then go into detail on the current promotional efforts by Dash to get adoptions and conclude with what future potential Dash has. Thank you for posting those crucial links again. That is all MUST READ INFO for noobs as well as existing Dash bagholders. Here are some more important Dash Facts. 1. Darkcoin had a problematic launch: 2 million Darkcoin were mined in the first day (incidentally, there are around 2 800 Darkcoin emitted daily right now, so that should give some level of contrast). This may not seem to relate to your question, but it is important to establish the legitimacy and technical competency of the developer. The fact that the block reward does not match either of the three block reward formulae published by the developer is worrying. This points to an outright scam at worst, pure incompetence at best.
2. When dealing with a cryptocurrency you need to be able to cryptographically and mathematically prove a particular claim. So in the original Bitcoin whitepaper Satoshi was able to mathematically prove the validity of the longest chain rule. The rest of his cryptographic claims were backed by the papers he quotes (Adam Back's Hashcash paper in particular). Darkcoin has no cryptographic proofs of their claims. This is important, because a cryptocurrency is a manifestation of cryptographic theory, not the other way around. If you try and shoe-horn it the other way around you'll likely find your model unsafe under the most basic of assumptions.
3. The developer seems to eschew well-defined, anti-fragile, and proven Bitcoin concepts (eg. building a model based on paying for services via micropayment channels) for bizarre models that are poorly implemented and fragile (eg. payments based on uptime make a MasterNode a ripe target for DDoS attacks null-routing that IP).
4. I have seen no evidence that InstantX transactions are not susceptible to malleability. This means that it is trivially easy to disrupt every InstantX transaction, and the network will fall back to processing them as "normal" transactions.
5. This malleability approach also allows for easy forking of the network if you own a subset of MasterNodes, whereby your malicious MasterNodes vote for both of your transactions and feed those votes to two groups of miners. The claim made in the InstantX "whitepaper" is that the conflicting messages will "cancel each other out", but once the network is forked that isn't the case, as half the conflicting messages won't even be received by the one part of the forked network. By continuing to run this group of malicious nodes, feeding sets of InstantX transactions that appear to be voted in as valid, you can keep the network split indefinitely.
6. The entire basis for "anonymising" transactions is based on clients being online at a given point in time, which means that those clients are also open to leaking information via temporal association.
7. The developer seems to have a grave lack of understanding when it comes to the danger of incentives. The clearest example of this is this table of MasterNode ROI. As you can clearly see, a MasterNode's ROI is substantially higher when there are fewer MasterNodes. Thus there is clear incentive for a MasterNode operator to systematically attack and destroy other MasterNodes, but not so much that the network ceases to exist. Just enough to double or triple his ROI. Incidentally, this is a self-fulfilling prophecy, as in a hypothetical future where Darkcoin is processing thousands of transactions an hour it will require quite a hefty server to act as a MasterNode. The fewer MasterNodes there are, the more work individual MasterNodes will have to do, which means that those run by non-technical people or on cheap VPS's will be the first to go, eventually leaving a group of big boys with big guns operating the remaining MasterNodes.
8. We've already seen ample evidence of law enforcement turning seemingly anonymous people into informants (eg. Sabu), hacking servers, and infiltrating systems in other ways. It is safe to say that LEA could also outrightly purchase large portions of the MasterNode network. It is impossible to tell which MasterNodes are real and which are owned by LEA (in perpetuity). Unfortunately it appears that the developer's line of reasoning, with respects to "how much" privacy Darkcoin gives you, started with the assumption that a supermajority of the MasterNodes are honest / not being watched / not infiltrated by LEA. This leaves open a huge, gaping hole whereby all of the "mixing" MasterNodes are involved in can be revealed by an owned / compromised majority. I can guarantee that the bulk of all MasterNode operators do not know even the first piece of opsec required to keep from your tin from being tampered with.
9. MasterNodes can be tricked into believing they can no longer accept new connections, simply by filling up all their file descriptors. It is somewhat trivial to force new connections to a group of MasterNodes under your control.
10. The developer has no clue how dangerous and stupid it is to chain hashing algorithms, as you open them up to pre-image attacks among other things. As a security researcher who discovered a flaw in chained hashing algorithms in PHP concluded: "The underlying problem is that combining cryptographic operators that weren't designed to be combined can be disastrous. Is it possible to do so safely? Yes. Is it a good idea to do it? No. This particular case is just one example where combining operations can be exceedingly dangerous. But the bottom line: never roll your own crypto. It can have fatal consequences."
What logs? debug log? There are no logs, except the debug log. What do you hope to find in the log? Recycled FUD.. Either that or he's too stupid to look into things carefully I would go with the too stupid option. Ignorant as all f&^k And despite all these years of trolling and FUD'ing dash, not one of them has been able to break a mixed transaction; not one of them has been able to de-anonymise a transaction, ever. That's proof of their lies and deceitful fear mongering right there, their fraudulent claims Monero crew (including fluffy/smooth/risto) all have claimed that it is trivial to break DASH. When asked for proof they merely claim that it is so trivial there is no point and they have other things to do. I think they probably have pokemon to play or nitendo after school. Monero ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) 5 belligerent, disrespectful replies, all demonstrating complete ignorance and/or desire to evade the subject, and none of which makes any effort at all to intelligently address the issue(s). Now we know how this thread grew to be more than 6 thousand posts! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) As is almost always the case, those who spend all day spewing out the "troll" word really need to look in the mirror. It's called psychological projection. But not all is lost. You and Ethereum are building great case studies that will be taught in universities someday and that honest altcoins will be able to use to show people exactly what they're not. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Cheers P.S. It's not exactly best practice to edit out critical information, links, etc., from a post you are critical with. You once again show that you have no answer and cut off your nose to spite your face. Okay then, best of luck to you. When you disturb a scammer and disrput their scamming, belligerent, disrespectful replies are to be expected. 6000 posts, most of which are low info graphics, price charts, huuuge marketing adverts, deflection from criticism, pump cheerleading, and exhortations to ignore all criticism (including multi-page lists of specific critics). The most obnoxious thing DashHoles do is gossip endlessly about who they are ostensibly ignoring, as if it's logically/physically possible to ignore someone while responding to and discussing them. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It would be nice if they used the proper cultist term "shun" rather than the misnomer "ignore." ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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March 05, 2017, 10:46:43 PM |
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This guy ^^ icebreaker reminds me of this http://wisdomofchopra.com/ ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Someone just hits generate button and ice's "posts with wisdom" appears.
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It is easier to be an aggressive victim than to be a free man.
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March 05, 2017, 11:24:31 PM |
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Indeed, any miners who weren't happy with the coin supply or block reward or anything else, they got out three years ago! And a good job too because the miners Dash has now are the best miners in Crypto. Don't you know that when Dash rolled out the recent hardfork in February, 100% of the miners updated to the new version within something like 24 hours! Show us any other coin that can do that!
So I'd like to propose a toast to Dash's miners. The best, the most efficient, the most dedicated and the most appreciated miners in Cryptospace!
100 hours ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Thanks for correcting me. Still bloody good!
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March 06, 2017, 02:59:51 AM |
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*** Instamined or Ninja Mined and even Premined...is a must.
Now Is Evan a wealthy man now?...damn straight. I'd rather be a lined with a successful developer and project leader. ***
I obviously don't have a clue what I'm talking about. .... I think you need to find another job that doesn't involve trolling, DASH has the best miners in crypto...PERIOD! Again...for those that obviously still don't get it. The instamine was a great tool to fund development, of course unless your a commie loving socialist, then sorry, this isn't your coin.
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Looking at the long queue of 40K unconfirmed transactions currently affecting Bitcoin, https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions how can Dash prepare for a sudden influx of transactions in the size of the Bitcoin network? I am of course aware of our block time of 2.5 minutes, and the decision to increase the block size to 2MB should this be necessary. This would provide almost a 8x increase of the capacity compared to the Bitcoin network and that is great. But then what? I admit to not be fully up to speed with the coming features of evolution, but are there measures to increase the transaction capacity by utilizing the masternode tier in some fashion? If most transactions were an InstantSend transaction, this would not increase the transaction throughput per say, but it would get the funds around faster as the transaction would be confirmed and the receiver would at least have the perception that the network is working efficiently. Besides InstantSend, are there other blockchain implementations being addressed to help make Dash a true global digital cash with a capacity that can rival VISA/Mastercard/Paypal? I didn't have access to my account from my phone earlier, and wanted to answer / speculate on your questions here when I read your post ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So, first, yes, as of right now, we have plans that put us at 8X the capacity of Bitcoin (thought those 2mb blocks won't be implemented until there is need) So that's all traditional / normal / current technology that should cover us for the next few years, but then what? Well, if segwit can be implemented while preserving account information for people (we could do a hybrid with some info on blockchain and other info in the Dash Drive?) there is also blockchain pruning if that solution ever pans out, and last, hopefully never ever, and IMO least, is off chain transactions. Undoubtedly there will be other ideas that come up. So far no solution is without a cost. In the end, the technology will simply have to keep up. Bandwidth and storage might simply have to be expanded. You know with Masternodes, we can instantly process an unlimited number of transactions per second using IS technology. I guess it's the miners that have to write things into the blockchain where the bottle neck happens. If that's the case, and if we switch to making every transaction an IS transaction, then we could have miners create blocks once an hour, and make those blocks as big as necessary. The miners would download as much as they can in that time, commit the transactions to the block, and what isn't committed goes in the next block an hour later. I really don't know if that helps, as it's a simplification of what I understand is the problem from others who have posted?? But certainly there is a lot of room for creativity, and if we have 8X the block transactions of Bitcoin in the next 4 or so years, and my estimate of time needed to solve this problem is good, we'll be in excellent condition!
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Another proud lifetime Dash Foundation member ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) My TanteStefana account was hacked, Beware trading "You'll never reach your destination if you stop to throw stones at every dog that barks."Sir Winston Churchill BTC: 12pu5nMDPEyUGu3HTbnUB5zY5RG65EQE5d
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March 06, 2017, 09:00:40 AM |
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Looking at the long queue of 40K unconfirmed transactions currently affecting Bitcoin, https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions how can Dash prepare for a sudden influx of transactions in the size of the Bitcoin network? I am of course aware of our block time of 2.5 minutes, and the decision to increase the block size to 2MB should this be necessary. This would provide almost a 8x increase of the capacity compared to the Bitcoin network and that is great. But then what? I admit to not be fully up to speed with the coming features of evolution, but are there measures to increase the transaction capacity by utilizing the masternode tier in some fashion? If most transactions were an InstantSend transaction, this would not increase the transaction throughput per say, but it would get the funds around faster as the transaction would be confirmed and the receiver would at least have the perception that the network is working efficiently. Besides InstantSend, are there other blockchain implementations being addressed to help make Dash a true global digital cash with a capacity that can rival VISA/Mastercard/Paypal? I didn't have access to my account from my phone earlier, and wanted to answer / speculate on your questions here when I read your post ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So, first, yes, as of right now, we have plans that put us at 8X the capacity of Bitcoin (thought those 2mb blocks won't be implemented until there is need) So that's all traditional / normal / current technology that should cover us for the next few years, but then what? Well, if segwit can be implemented while preserving account information for people (we could do a hybrid with some info on blockchain and other info in the Dash Drive?) there is also blockchain pruning if that solution ever pans out, and last, hopefully never ever, and IMO least, is off chain transactions. Undoubtedly there will be other ideas that come up. So far no solution is without a cost. In the end, the technology will simply have to keep up. Bandwidth and storage might simply have to be expanded. You know with Masternodes, we can instantly process an unlimited number of transactions per second using IS technology. I guess it's the miners that have to write things into the blockchain where the bottle neck happens. If that's the case, and if we switch to making every transaction an IS transaction, then we could have miners create blocks once an hour, and make those blocks as big as necessary. The miners would download as much as they can in that time, commit the transactions to the block, and what isn't committed goes in the next block an hour later. I really don't know if that helps, as it's a simplification of what I understand is the problem from others who have posted?? But certainly there is a lot of room for creativity, and if we have 8X the block transactions of Bitcoin in the next 4 or so years, and my estimate of time needed to solve this problem is good, we'll be in excellent condition! Thank you for a great reply Tante, I was starting to think that my post wold get lost in a sea of troll-postings. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Interesting approach of letting the masternodes process the transactions, but then the miners would have to play catch up to the blockchain later. We would have a constant backlog of transactions, but at least the network would tug along and it wouldn't be stopping merchants and individuals from making transactions. Come to think of it, that's what all banks do as well: make transactions during the day and crunch the numbers during night. Assuming that each InstantSend transaction takes some 1-3 seconds to lock in, for 6 (?) randomly selected masternodes to accomplish, the network as a whole could theoretically process 4500 masternodes / 6 (?) = 750 transactions every 3 seconds? or conservatively speaking about 250 tx per second? Maybe I have made an incorrect assumption how many masternodes are queried for the InstantSend transaction, but 250 TX/sec seems pretty good for the moment. I guess if the blockchain verifying became a problem we would have to look into quicker blocks or larger blocks to deal with the ever growing backlog.
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Because she is a contractor on monthly salary lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Because she is a contractor on monthly salary lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) No, that is why she became a contractor. Comunity wanted and voted for that!
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Because she is a contractor on monthly salary lol ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) No, that is why she became a contractor. Comunity wanted and voted for that! And the investors appreciate being treated nicely. She called some folks with masternodes half-jokingly her "employers" at Anarchapulco and has proven to be the perfect spokeperson. You may dismiss that, but people actually like that. The same folks got pissed off by that arrogant Blockstream-Johnny by the way. Meanwhile I took some profits but now I think about buying back Dash, because my super-fancy fairly distributed super liquid DinoCoins are stuck on Polo now thanks to the fee. PS: @Icebreaker: I really enjoy your original trolling, but self-copy-pasting yourself is boring.
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Dash De-anonymization ContestIcebreaker and other trolleros: I have donated $1 to Monero's development team. I sent 0.25 Dash (TX ID: 59d51690d4b56ddbf1e393fa8d3a49bcfc3247f270f36be3b6ee411802666cba-000) to shapeshift.io, which converted it to Bitcoin and sent it to the official Monero donation address listed at https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/. I challenge you to de-anonymize this transaction. To make it just a little easier, I only used four rounds of Darksend, so it's exponentially less private than it would be with the maximum eight rounds. Please tell me what address this transaction originated from. Cheers! Icebreaker, could you ask the Monero dev team to refund my 0.25 DASH that I donated last year? One year later, and that $1 donation is now worth $10.96, and I'd really like it back. Cheers!
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Thanks for the show Tao, let's see if the disgruntled Bitcoiners take a look on the other side of the fence, and step over to the Dashy side of the crypto sphere. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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March 06, 2017, 06:28:58 PM |
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I'm literally crying because I sold my Dash too soon ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Everybody should exercise caution when doing withdrawals from Poloniex. Be sure you have email verification turned on, and that you carefully review the withdrawal address in the email before you confirm it. Saturday night I logged into Poloniex using my Galaxy S7 phone and copied/pasted my withdrawal address from my withdrawal history. Everything worked perfectly. About 45 minutes later, I went to withdraw again, and used the same procedure (copy/paste my address from the withdrawal history section). This time I didn't read the withdrawal confirmation email very carefully, and just clicked the link to authorize the withdrawal. The following morning I did another withdrawal from my phone, again copy/pasting the withdrawal address. Well, the first and third withdrawals went fine. But the second withdrawal was sent to the wrong address: XiYy9fpSTwd35jsri6K2UetYtbJdt1APfh (not the "d8k" address I had pasted into the withdrawal box). When I created a ticket with Poloniex, I received an email back saying that I probably was infected with malware and there's nothing they can do. I emailed them back and requested an investigation, but haven't heard back yet. Consider the following: a) Malwarebytes and Norton both say my phone is clean, so if I do have malware on my phone it is evading detection. b) I've done a number of withdrawals on my phone, including one before and one after this, and no other withdrawals have been tampered with. Do I have some form of malware that only works part of the time? Also, the withdrawals before and after were both twice the size of my "hacked" withdrawal. These facts make me and some others in slack believe that it may have been an inside job by somebody who works for Poloniex. I'm not saying that Poloniex is doing anything wrong, but there may be a bad employee who is stealing from customers. I've asked Poloniex to do an actual investigation instead of just saying "we're sorry you were hacked" but so far I have not received a reply. tl;dr BE VERY CAREFUL WITHDRAWING FUNDS FROM POLONIEX.You will get an email confirmation like the one below. I was stupid and didn't double check the address. ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK THE ADDRESS. A request to withdraw 116.31000000 DASH from your Poloniex account to address XiYy9fpSTwd35jsri6K2UetYtbJdt1APfh was just made. To confirm the withdrawal, please click the following link: https://poloniex.com/confirmWithdrawal?h=592abf5b6d884d35c6ce153295261873If you did not request this withdrawal, please contact Poloniex support immediately at poloniex.freshdesk.com.
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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Everybody should exercise caution when doing withdrawals from Poloniex. Be sure you have email verification turned on, and that you carefully review the withdrawal address in the email before you confirm it. Saturday night I logged into Poloniex using my Galaxy S7 phone and copied/pasted my withdrawal address from my withdrawal history. Everything worked perfectly. About 45 minutes later, I went to withdraw again, and used the same procedure (copy/paste my address from the withdrawal history section). This time I didn't read the withdrawal confirmation email very carefully, and just clicked the link to authorize the withdrawal. The following morning I did another withdrawal from my phone, again copy/pasting the withdrawal address. Well, the first and third withdrawals went fine. But the second withdrawal was sent to the wrong address: XiYy9fpSTwd35jsri6K2UetYtbJdt1APfh (not the "d8k" address I had pasted into the withdrawal box). When I created a ticket with Poloniex, I received an email back saying that I probably was infected with malware and there's nothing they can do. I emailed them back and requested an investigation, but haven't heard back yet. Consider the following: a) Malwarebytes and Norton both say my phone is clean, so if I do have malware on my phone it is evading detection. b) I've done a number of withdrawals on my phone, including one before and one after this, and no other withdrawals have been tampered with. Do I have some form of malware that only works part of the time? Also, the withdrawals before and after were both twice the size of my "hacked" withdrawal. These facts make me and some others in slack believe that it may have been an inside job by somebody who works for Poloniex. I'm not saying that Poloniex is doing anything wrong, but there may be a bad employee who is stealing from customers. I've asked Poloniex to do an actual investigation instead of just saying "we're sorry you were hacked" but so far I have not received a reply. tl;dr BE VERY CAREFUL WITHDRAWING FUNDS FROM POLONIEX.You will get an email confirmation like the one below. I was stupid and didn't double check the address. ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK THE ADDRESS. A request to withdraw 116.31000000 DASH from your Poloniex account to address XiYy9fpSTwd35jsri6K2UetYtbJdt1APfh was just made. To confirm the withdrawal, please click the following link: https://poloniex.com/confirmWithdrawal?h=592abf5b6d884d35c6ce153295261873If you did not request this withdrawal, please contact Poloniex support immediately at poloniex.freshdesk.com. Thanks for the advice!
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March 06, 2017, 07:37:21 PM |
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Thanks too.... this is a very serious situation....
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March 06, 2017, 07:39:43 PM |
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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Everybody should exercise caution when doing withdrawals from Poloniex. Be sure you have email verification turned on, and that you carefully review the withdrawal address in the email before you confirm it. Saturday night I logged into Poloniex using my Galaxy S7 phone and copied/pasted my withdrawal address from my withdrawal history. Everything worked perfectly. About 45 minutes later, I went to withdraw again, and used the same procedure (copy/paste my address from the withdrawal history section). This time I didn't read the withdrawal confirmation email very carefully, and just clicked the link to authorize the withdrawal. The following morning I did another withdrawal from my phone, again copy/pasting the withdrawal address. Well, the first and third withdrawals went fine. But the second withdrawal was sent to the wrong address: XiYy9fpSTwd35jsri6K2UetYtbJdt1APfh (not the "d8k" address I had pasted into the withdrawal box). When I created a ticket with Poloniex, I received an email back saying that I probably was infected with malware and there's nothing they can do. I emailed them back and requested an investigation, but haven't heard back yet. Consider the following: a) Malwarebytes and Norton both say my phone is clean, so if I do have malware on my phone it is evading detection. b) I've done a number of withdrawals on my phone, including one before and one after this, and no other withdrawals have been tampered with. Do I have some form of malware that only works part of the time? Also, the withdrawals before and after were both twice the size of my "hacked" withdrawal. These facts make me and some others in slack believe that it may have been an inside job by somebody who works for Poloniex. I'm not saying that Poloniex is doing anything wrong, but there may be a bad employee who is stealing from customers. I've asked Poloniex to do an actual investigation instead of just saying "we're sorry you were hacked" but so far I have not received a reply. tl;dr BE VERY CAREFUL WITHDRAWING FUNDS FROM POLONIEX.You will get an email confirmation like the one below. I was stupid and didn't double check the address. ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK THE ADDRESS. A request to withdraw 116.31000000 DASH from your Poloniex account to address XiYy9fpSTwd35jsri6K2UetYtbJdt1APfh was just made. To confirm the withdrawal, please click the following link: https://poloniex.com/confirmWithdrawal?h=592abf5b6d884d35c6ce153295261873If you did not request this withdrawal, please contact Poloniex support immediately at poloniex.freshdesk.com. sorry to hear (assuming you didn't fuck up yourself). and it would NOT SURPRISE ME to see polo being scammy fucks here for this stuff. ie. your stuff is clean but they are the culprits. it is a cartel exch that do as they please with devs, coins and btc. so with vol they get away with ANYTHING. dirty fucks. come use 1ex.trade and try a legit exchange with TOP OF THE FUCKING LINE SECURITY. you should see nicer vol there by summer time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 06, 2017, 07:41:12 PM |
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Is second wave coming? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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