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[t3a]

Re: mapping coinjoins, I assume you mean logging which inputs match with which outputs. This doesn't need an anti-incentive to prevent, you can simply make it so it isn't possible to log through the use of blind signatures.

I think DarkSend does not implement blind sigs because they didn't work when DOS'ed (?) or something to that effect:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6001085#msg6001085

...and, again, if I remember correctly the solution was one where the node knows what is being transacted.

(note: I'm no coder or cryptography expert, so I'm going with my understanding of past discussions I've read - some of which may be inaccurate).

Re: Bitcoin foundation, they aren't involved with this decision. All it takes is one person to implement it and upload the implementation

That's unsettling for Bitcoin's stability It's like the opposite end of bureaucracy (=>anarchy)

Re: delaying payments, no, it isn't possible to have consensus that way. You can check yourself, but anyone that's offline will need to trust someone. This means if the party they trust lies, consensus is broken.

Hm...


edit: check this too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg6003693#msg6003693

The DoS can be mitigated with a blacklist or PoS.

Well Bitcoin has no central authority in case you were unaware.

That document is irrelevant to the consensus and PoR.

[camosoul]

Can someone explain why don't all altcoins have blocktimes of 30 seconds or less like zetacoin or ultracoin? Does it have a negative effect on security or block chain bloat?

Mempool propogation, among others, one which you mentioned.

[lunswor]

The official pool is down ? Where Can i mine ?

some help at drk.cryptorus.com would be appriciated

It would be appreciated greatly

[thelonecrouton]

Until proof of even FPGAs are posted, ASIC = Pulled out of Obama's ass vaporware and not A real NSA product.

Proof of FPGA is not required, we know that FPGA can do it if someone programs them to. However their acceleration factor is not that big and it's highly unlikely to find thousands of them.

ASIC = I don't know. But even at a 500x acceleration factor compared to a GPU (say a 3 MHs GPU / 1.5 GHs ASIC) it'd take HUNDREDS of them to pull stuff like 800-900 gigahash. FPGAs even more so because their acceleration is much closer to GPUs. I saw the link the guy gave as "x11 fpga program" which was bullshit, but hashpower is hashpower and it was tremendous.

The main propagandist behind that campaign is cryptohunter who has been pushing this in order to discourage Darkcoin miners since it claims ASIC resistance. If ASICs existed you mean to say they were tested on the crapcoin first and never on DRK ?

If I were the NSA I'd make sure to have hardware ASICs for every single algorithm out there. If I want to break a wallet, or control a crypto network, I won't do it with GPUs. The budget for acquiring such equipment is pretty low for their standards. They could control 51% of bitcoin right now if they spent something like 100-200mn in ASIC for SHA256 and destroy bitcoin. Even 1 bn budget for ASIC hardware is peanuts compared to protecting the hegemony of the dollar.

I believe they have the theoretical possibility of overriding every single POW network out there with 51% but a POS coin would remain resilient from a POW attack as it works through POS staking. So they would have a mess at their hand with an anonymous coin that remains resilient. So their hardware would be useless for 51% override. But it wouldn't be useless in the coin generation phase (POW). That's where I suspect they put their hardware on and started mining with that insane hashrate to get a 51% stake and control the future of the coin. If they didn't manage that, they'll manage it through buying a few more to get there.

The absence of that hashrate from every other x11 coin is a huge indicator. The fact that, suddenly, 900gh of x11 hashpower appeared out of nowhere just to mine XC, doesn't "just" happen.

Government agencies like the NSA have a lot to gain from ensuring DRK is a major success...  Governments have more to hide than the average punter out there, it would make funding their wars offshore so much more efficient...

except they can only afford that stuff because of money printing and they cant print crypto.

Uh, what does that have to do with the fact that Darkcoin would be incredibly useful to the CIA? They don't need to 'print crypto' they'll just buy it and use it. The richer and more powerful you are, generally the more you value your privacy, for whatever reason(s).

Darkcoin right now has no credible competition in the field, and is unlikely to for some time if the clownlike 'efforts' of MRO and XC, for example, continue.

[camosoul]

2000 and 4000 MNs

Did you source these numbers from Uranus?

Not flaming you, just toilet poetry...

[Joshuar]

2000 and 4000 MNs

Did you source these numbers from Uranus?

Not flaming you, just toilet poetry...

There are around 400(3hundred and something) Masternodes atm, not anywhere close to 2000 or 4000 lol

[Ignition75]

Until proof of even FPGAs are posted, ASIC = Pulled out of Obama's ass vaporware and not A real NSA product.

Proof of FPGA is not required, we know that FPGA can do it if someone programs them to. However their acceleration factor is not that big and it's highly unlikely to find thousands of them.

ASIC = I don't know. But even at a 500x acceleration factor compared to a GPU (say a 3 MHs GPU / 1.5 GHs ASIC) it'd take HUNDREDS of them to pull stuff like 800-900 gigahash. FPGAs even more so because their acceleration is much closer to GPUs. I saw the link the guy gave as "x11 fpga program" which was bullshit, but hashpower is hashpower and it was tremendous.

The main propagandist behind that campaign is cryptohunter who has been pushing this in order to discourage Darkcoin miners since it claims ASIC resistance. If ASICs existed you mean to say they were tested on the crapcoin first and never on DRK ?

If I were the NSA I'd make sure to have hardware ASICs for every single algorithm out there. If I want to break a wallet, or control a crypto network, I won't do it with GPUs. The budget for acquiring such equipment is pretty low for their standards. They could control 51% of bitcoin right now if they spent something like 100-200mn in ASIC for SHA256 and destroy bitcoin. Even 1 bn budget for ASIC hardware is peanuts compared to protecting the hegemony of the dollar.

I believe they have the theoretical possibility of overriding every single POW network out there with 51% but a POS coin would remain resilient from a POW attack as it works through POS staking. So they would have a mess at their hand with an anonymous coin that remains resilient. So their hardware would be useless for 51% override. But it wouldn't be useless in the coin generation phase (POW). That's where I suspect they put their hardware on and started mining with that insane hashrate to get a 51% stake and control the future of the coin. If they didn't manage that, they'll manage it through buying a few more to get there.

The absence of that hashrate from every other x11 coin is a huge indicator. The fact that, suddenly, 900gh of x11 hashpower appeared out of nowhere just to mine XC, doesn't "just" happen.

Government agencies like the NSA have a lot to gain from ensuring DRK is a major success...  Governments have more to hide than the average punter out there, it would make funding their wars offshore so much more efficient...

except they can only afford that stuff because of money printing and they cant print crypto.

You're one step ahead of me, I was thinking of a more interim use to move funds around anon...

[camosoul]

2000 and 4000 MNs

Did you source these numbers from Uranus?

Not flaming you, just toilet poetry...

There are around 400(3hundred and something) Masternodes atm, not anywhere close to 2000 or 4000 lol

I'll set up a masternode as soon as invisibility and multi-entry are realities. Until then, why give away my IP?

[Ozziecoin]

If anyone wants me to setup a Masternode for them, PM me.  Cost is 10 Drks.  

If you want more than 3 MNs, I'll work out a deal with you. More than 10, I'll do for 5 Drks each.

If you're worried about security, you keep your own wallet encryption passphrase secret. You then change your server password. And I'll show you how to lock your server down.

If you're truly paranoid, contact DyslexicZombei and he may be able to do further hardening steps.

MN count increased to 374 from 371 yesterday.

I dont wanna say you have bad intentions, but you could just install a keylogger. I would not recommend anybody to give away his wallet!!

edit: i am waiting for the local-remote cold storage method before offering that kind of service

Please don't scare people! http://www.walletrecoveryservices.com/

Impossible!
If you have no idea at all of your passphrase, and it was more than a handful of characters long, then we cannot help you. No-one in the world, including the NSA, CIA, D-Wave or anyone else can crack the encryption used in the bitcoin wallet if the passphrase is more than 15 fairly random characters. The bitcoin wallet encryption is strong by design. There are no known flaws in the implementation, and many people have tried to break it!

[Joshuar]

2000 and 4000 MNs

Did you source these numbers from Uranus?

Not flaming you, just toilet poetry...

There are around 400(3hundred and something) Masternodes atm, not anywhere close to 2000 or 4000 lol

I'll set up a masternode as soon as invisibility and multi-entry are realities. Until then, why give away my IP?

A masternode could be routed through TOR if I'm correct or you could always use a VPS to hide your IP

[slapper]

Sleazy faggotry deleted

I see that some regulars here have forgotten about your troll faggotry and end up quoting you.

Is it true that there are more sheep in New Zealand than men http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/mythbusters/3million-people-60million-sheep.aspx

Is that the reason for men having sex with sheep over there? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10666166  Do you use rubber for safety?

[Sleepyx]

Anyone who wants to set up masternodes but doesn't know how, just post what youre doing in this thread, me and others will help you for free. Or go in the irc room and people will help you there to, its not hard.

[AlexGR]

Until proof of even FPGAs are posted, ASIC = Pulled out of Obama's ass vaporware and not A real NSA product.

Proof of FPGA is not required, we know that FPGA can do it if someone programs them to. However their acceleration factor is not that big and it's highly unlikely to find thousands of them.

ASIC = I don't know. But even at a 500x acceleration factor compared to a GPU (say a 3 MHs GPU / 1.5 GHs ASIC) it'd take HUNDREDS of them to pull stuff like 800-900 gigahash. FPGAs even more so because their acceleration is much closer to GPUs. I saw the link the guy gave as "x11 fpga program" which was bullshit, but hashpower is hashpower and it was tremendous.

The main propagandist behind that campaign is cryptohunter who has been pushing this in order to discourage Darkcoin miners since it claims ASIC resistance. If ASICs existed you mean to say they were tested on the crapcoin first and never on DRK ?

If I were the NSA I'd make sure to have hardware ASICs for every single algorithm out there. If I want to break a wallet, or control a crypto network, I won't do it with GPUs. The budget for acquiring such equipment is pretty low for their standards. They could control 51% of bitcoin right now if they spent something like 100-200mn in ASIC for SHA256 and destroy bitcoin. Even 1 bn budget for ASIC hardware is peanuts compared to protecting the hegemony of the dollar.

I believe they have the theoretical possibility of overriding every single POW network out there with 51% but a POS coin would remain resilient from a POW attack as it works through POS staking. So they would have a mess at their hand with an anonymous coin that remains resilient. So their hardware would be useless for 51% override. But it wouldn't be useless in the coin generation phase (POW). That's where I suspect they put their hardware on and started mining with that insane hashrate to get a 51% stake and control the future of the coin. If they didn't manage that, they'll manage it through buying a few more to get there.

The absence of that hashrate from every other x11 coin is a huge indicator. The fact that, suddenly, 900gh of x11 hashpower appeared out of nowhere just to mine XC, doesn't "just" happen.

Government agencies like the NSA have a lot to gain from ensuring DRK is a major success...  Governments have more to hide than the average punter out there, it would make funding their wars offshore so much more efficient...

The modus operandi of US embassies around the world is money bags and briefcases of money. Money delivery is not hard.

On top of that, the funding is zero-cost due to the printing of all the money that they want. The dollar is an infinite resource. This infinity can only be maintained if rivals to the dollar are not more stable than it, so the elite ensure that the politicians of the "developed" world all go into the route of competitive debasement.

Third-world-countries are even more debased. Gold and silver are manipulated with paper contracts that are like 100x the actual supply traded. Bitcoin is the only one standing and it is safe to assume that the double digit trillion M3 of USD will not be under threat by it (or other cryptos). If I were the elite I'd want a "Bitcoin kill switch" at my disposal, whether that involves buying asics to control 51%, or other tactics. The cost would be peanuts compared to what's at stake. For POS coins that might be a future threat => I'd have to buy them off or mine them at the initial stage.

I consider the existence of NSA-owned SHA256/scrypt/x11/scrypt-n/quark/cryptonote ASICs as a given. Anything less would be incompetence both on their part / the Elite's part.

[tcherkin]

Hello,

My name is Georgii Cerkiin and I am the one who wrote the DarkCoin Orchestral Anthem. I would like to present you the full piece, where the anthem comes from - “The Order of the Dark Coin” - Orchestral Suite

Feel free to listen to it here:
https://soundcloud.com/tcherkin/the-order-of-the-dark-coin-orchestral-suite

It took me a month of hard work to compose that piece and I am lucky that had a friend - conductor, who agreed to perform live that piece as an encore after a symphonic concert. Unfortunately you can hear some coughing from the public and it was not that perfect as a studio recording, which is now my dream to do of that piece.

I am already started saving for this studio recording and if you enjoy the music and the DarkCoin Anthem itself, your donation is really appreciated!

Here is my DRK address, followed by an amazing story:

XiG7xsjFrAwtk3iAmxgapycErnErLCxuJQ

Today I just got 2400 DRK by mistake from a person, who wished to send me donation of about 20 DRK, so he contacted me with the hope that I will return his money. Of course I did it and today I realized how there are much more important things in life than money, so I felt more than happy to return them to him, since they did not belong to me. If I was selling this amount for 40 BTC, that would also negatively affect quite a bit the value of the DRK in exchanges.

I really believe in DRK and the way cryptos can change the world in a good way. I can also assure you, that the person I contacted is really a strong supporter of DarkCoin and we all believe it will prevail.

Thank you!

[JGCMiner]

Anybody else raise a bit of an eyebrow at the "no forks" part of Evan's post?  If that can be done, then why did we try to hard fork in the first place? Was the original method really thought through and the best option to pay masternodes selected? Or is there some compromise in implementing forkless payments that is now being ignored becuase of the chaos over the last few days? And then there is the obvious increasing of the masternode incentive (20%, multiple tickets) which I guess is fine... but is also a convenient price lifeboat.

My wallet has remained closed during this mishap and I have no plans to dump any part of my modest stash, but I have a lot of questions right now. Anybody that has any insight (Evan himself is best, but that is hoping for too much) that could answer some of these questions would be appreciated.

Or maybe I am being too skeptical and nobody else sees anything odd here...

[Joshuar]

Hello,

My name is Georgii Cerkiin and I am the one who wrote the DarkCoin Orchestral Anthem. I would like to present you the full piece, where the anthem comes from - “The Order of the Dark Coin” - Orchestral Suite

Feel free to listen to it here:
https://soundcloud.com/tcherkin/the-order-of-the-dark-coin-orchestral-suite

It took me a month of hard work to compose that piece and I am lucky that had a friend - conductor, who agreed to perform live that piece as an encore after a symphonic concert. Unfortunately you can hear some coughing from the public and it was not that perfect as a studio recording, which is now my dream to do of that piece.

I am already started saving for this studio recording and if you enjoy the music and the DarkCoin Anthem itself, your donation is really appreciated!

Here is my DRK address, followed by an amazing story:

XiG7xsjFrAwtk3iAmxgapycErnErLCxuJQ

Today I just got 2400 DRK by mistake from a person, who wished to send me donation of about 20 DRK, so he contacted me with the hope that I will return his money. Of course I did it and today I realized how there are much more important things in life than money, so I felt more than happy to return them to him, since they did not belong to me. If I was selling this amount for 40 BTC, that would also negatively affect quite a bit the value of the DRK in exchanges.

I really believe in DRK and the way cryptos can change the world in a good way. I can also assure you, that the person I contacted is really a strong supporter of DarkCoin and we all believe it will prevail.

Thank you!

Impressive! You seem like a geniunely good person for returning that DRK. I listened to the anthem a few days ago and it sounded really good!

[Ozziecoin]

If anyone wants me to setup a Masternode for them, PM me.  Cost is 10 Drks.  

If you want more than 3 MNs, I'll work out a deal with you. More than 10, I'll do for 5 Drks each.

If you're worried about security, you keep your own wallet encryption passphrase secret. You then change your server password. And I'll show you how to lock your server down.

If you're truly paranoid, contact DyslexicZombei and he may be able to do further hardening steps.

MN count increased to 374 from 371 yesterday.

I dont wanna say you have bad intentions, but you could just install a keylogger. I would not recommend anybody to give away his wallet!!

edit: i am waiting for the local-remote cold storage method before offering that kind of service

Please don't scare people! http://www.walletrecoveryservices.com/

I dont wanna scare anybody, just told them you could install a keylogger!

Oh, in that case, I suggest you install the Ubuntu server and everything. I do the Masternode step.  You install the encrypted wallet.dat yourself.  You check for keyloggers. We shutdown all ports.  We shut me from your server. You start the masternode yourself by copy and pasting it in.

[shfc]

why dark dump?
 

[HiddenDark]

Sleazy faggotry deleted

I see that some regulars here have forgotten about your troll faggotry and end up quoting you.

Is it true that there are more sheep in New Zealand than men http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/population/mythbusters/3million-people-60million-sheep.aspx

Is that the reason for men having sex with sheep over there? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10666166  Do you use rubber for safety?

We also have 10 million cattle, which is about 2 per person. https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/23465475/south-island-dairy-cattle-number-continues-to-rise/

[Ozziecoin]

Anybody else raise a bit of an eyebrow at the "no forks" part of Evan's post?  If that can be done, then why did we try to hard fork in the first place? Was the original method really thought through and the best option to pay masternodes selected? Or is there some compromise in implementing forkless payments that is now being ignored becuase of the chaos over the last few days? And then there is the obvious increasing of the masternode incentive (20%, multiple tickets) which I guess is fine... but is also a convenient price lifeboat.

My wallet has remained closed during this mishap and I have no plans to dump any part of my modest stash, but I have a lot of questions right now. Anybody that has any insight (Evan himself is best, but that is hoping for too much) that could answer some of these questions would be appreciated.

Or maybe I am being too skeptical and nobody else sees anything odd here...

Implies that current version already has everything built in. I think he will release new wallet and "soft fork" to allow payments. So, there will be no hard forks and random chains appearing when new wallet is released.