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[GhostPlayer]

 Pool that HAVE NOT UPDATED !!  

 LTCRabbit
 Coinotron
 Coinmine.pl
 XHash.net
 Multipool.us
 Coinmine.pw
 

 Boooooooo!!!!    .. I dont mind about LTCRabbit and Multipool.us, as they pay in LTC and BTC respectively.

perhaps the OP can be updated with a proper list of pools? Adding my DRK paying multipool too of course www.xpool.ca

Cheers

Too soon, this is was an unannounced "spork", and still early. About >50% of the network has updated I'm told

[GaliX]

why is the volume so low and on top even the value decreasing currently?

[GhostPlayer]

why is the volume so low and even decreasing currently?

Because 1 fork went wrong, the second was reverted. Lots of panic. Most still might not know that the third was the charm  

Which is just brilliant!! I may end up with another node if this price maintains    (f*king fiat snail currency)

[Freckleg]

RC4 Development and Path Going Forward

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc4-development-and-path-going-forward.1604/

With this launch, we introduced a new soft-fork method, which some users have affectionately dubbed the “spork”

Haha, whoever "coined" this term, bravo 

love this name "spork" looks like market could not classify the spork and waited for the news

I also got two payments on one of my masternodes, gonna get some junkfood and beer from that today cheers

Save it for something healthy like... Champagne!

[yellowcox]

Hey!

First payment for my masternode!!!

Evan rocks  

Edit: The team rocks!

[tifozi]

RC4 Development and Path Going Forward

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc4-development-and-path-going-forward.1604/

With this launch, we introduced a new soft-fork method, which some users have affectionately dubbed the “spork”

Haha, whoever "coined" this term, bravo 

love this name "spork" looks like market could not classify the spork and waited for the news

I also got two payments on one of my masternodes, gonna get some junkfood and beer from that today cheers

Cheers. Enjoy 

[flound1129]

Multipool has been updated.  Some advance notice next time would be great.

[TsuyokuNaritai]

Multipool has been updated.  Some advance notice next time would be great.

It's OK, it wasn't a hard fork. Nothing bad happened from not updating yet, your blocks still got paid.

[toknormal]

This is a fundamental problem with PoS, and is why Peercoin incorporates both PoW and centralized checkpointing.  Sunny King is not a stupid guy, he knows that PoS has a big flaw or else he would have implemented pure PoS for Peercoin

I've heard this argument quoted many times.

I don't agree with the idea that there's a "fundamental problem" with POS. I think there are more fundamental problems with POW.

I also think that POS is a far more elegant and modern approach to crypto currencies, being that it more closely represents the idea of "tokenised" wealth than POW does. POW kind of panders to the false premise that a store of wealth has to have "done something to deserve its value". In fact it doesn't and that's a highly flawed analysis of the definition of money in itself.

The fact that you can potentially take control of it by owning more than half the money supply doesn't impress me either as a criticism. In the modern world, you can take control of just about anything by owning more than half of it and as I said before, these are hypothetical scenarios anyway, not practical ones.

So all in all, I see POW as being obsolete. I'm into DRK for other reasons - I don't mind the fact that it's POW - I don't have any problem with that. Bitcoin itself is a POW algo, but if we're comparing "investability" issues based on algo alone, give me POS any day.

[abercrombie]

why is the volume so low and on top even the value decreasing currently?

Seems like there are too many bag holders from previous runups selling at every spike just to break even or cut their losses.

[GhostPlayer]

why is the volume so low and on top even the value decreasing currently?

Seems like there are too many bag holders from previous runups selling at every spike just to break even or cut their losses.

Which is natural. Many guys are in for instant profit. DRK resilience is proof of long term
Remember, there was no announcement date this time. Heck, I went to bed 10 mins before the "spork"

[slapper]

why is the volume so low and on top even the value decreasing currently?

Seems like there are too many bag holders from previous runups selling at every spike just to break even or cut their losses.

Or traders from the BTC-E trollbox thinking too much about themselves. Where is Mike3 when you need them.

abercrombie:
sold on strength of just posted drk rc4 announcement
6/26/2014 1:21:11 PM
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abercrombie:
sold all my drk from yesterday. i'm all cash (btc)

[salmion]

why is the volume so low and on top even the value decreasing currently?

Seems like there are too many bag holders from previous runups selling at every spike just to break even or cut their losses.

I'd say give it time. The spork is less dramatic.. I think the HARD FORK! SUCCESS!! Is like a big tick in some ways. I'm all for the spork but some will be waiting to see if any issues pop up. The enforcement needs to be turned on. And ideally more details of the new anonymity layer. And the lifting of the 10 drk limit. I do think it will drift higher as it becomes evident that :

RC3 is WORKING!!

[GhostPlayer]

 If US Marshall used Darkcoin, this would be a non issue 

http://www.coindesk.com/government-sale-bitcoin-establishes-fungibility-precedent/

[rickraw]

 If US Marshall used Darkcoin, this would be a non issue 

http://www.coindesk.com/government-sale-bitcoin-establishes-fungibility-precedent/

I was just actually thinking, those coins are going to be followed and 'kept an eye on' forever!

[eltito]

 Pool that HAVE NOT UPDATED !! 

 LTCRabbit
 Coinotron
 Coinmine.pl
 XHash.net
 Multipool.us
 Coinmine.pw
 

 Boooooooo!!!!    .. I dont mind about LTCRabbit and Multipool.us, as they pay in LTC and BTC respectively.

perhaps the OP can be updated with a proper list of pools? Adding my DRK paying multipool too of course www.xpool.ca

Cheers

That'd make the OP 3 pages long...

I have a list here: https://darkcointalk.org/threads/pools-exchanges-etc.1456/#post-10137

Please PM me on darkcointalk if there are any missing.

[baddw]

This is a fundamental problem with PoS, and is why Peercoin incorporates both PoW and centralized checkpointing.  Sunny King is not a stupid guy, he knows that PoS has a big flaw or else he would have implemented pure PoS for Peercoin

I've heard this argument quoted many times.

I don't agree with the idea that there's a "fundamental problem" with POS. I think there are more fundamental problems with POW.

I also think that POS is a far more elegant and modern approach to crypto currencies, being that it more closely represents the idea of "tokenised" wealth than POW does. POW kind of panders to the false premise that a store of wealth has to have "done something to deserve its value". In fact it doesn't and that's a highly flawed analysis of the definition of money in itself.

The fact that you can potentially take control of it by owning more than half the money supply doesn't impress me either as a criticism. In the modern world, you can take control of just about anything by owning more than half of it and as I said before, these are hypothetical scenarios anyway, not practical ones.

So all in all, I see POW as being obsolete. I'm into DRK for other reasons - I don't mind the fact that it's POW - I don't have any problem with that. Bitcoin itself is a POW algo, but if we're comparing "investability" issues based on algo alone, give me POS any day.

I'm not saying it's a problem with PoS as an idea, in general; but it is a problem with PoS as currently implemented by Peercoin and all of its copycats (pretty much any copycoin with a QT interface and not too much original development).  The PoS mechanism in NXT may be better (I have not seen any real details of it), and maybe somebody else has a solution implemented somewhere that I have not read about.  I know that Daniel Larimer (who is a very smart guy) who is developing BitShares, had problems creating a PoS system from scratch.  He kept running into all of these issues, came up with a system called "TaPoS" (Transaction as Proof of Stake) and ended up morphing into a PoS system called DPoS that implements a Delegate system with some similarities to the MasterNodes of Darkcoin.  We will see how that system turns out.  But all Peercoin-derived PoS implementations are flawed in several ways, this being a major one.

[ddink7]

This is a fundamental problem with PoS, and is why Peercoin incorporates both PoW and centralized checkpointing.  Sunny King is not a stupid guy, he knows that PoS has a big flaw or else he would have implemented pure PoS for Peercoin

I've heard this argument quoted many times.

I don't agree with the idea that there's a "fundamental problem" with POS. I think there are more fundamental problems with POW.

I also think that POS is a far more elegant and modern approach to crypto currencies, being that it more closely represents the idea of "tokenised" wealth than POW does. POW kind of panders to the false premise that a store of wealth has to have "done something to deserve its value". In fact it doesn't and that's a highly flawed analysis of the definition of money in itself.

The fact that you can potentially take control of it by owning more than half the money supply doesn't impress me either as a criticism. In the modern world, you can take control of just about anything by owning more than half of it and as I said before, these are hypothetical scenarios anyway, not practical ones.

So all in all, I see POW as being obsolete. I'm into DRK for other reasons - I don't mind the fact that it's POW - I don't have any problem with that. Bitcoin itself is a POW algo, but if we're comparing "investability" issues based on algo alone, give me POS any day.

Again, the problem isn't that you can take control by owning more than half the money supply. The problem is that the threat of taking control (if credible) is by itself enough to destroy the value of the currency. Creating a credible threat is easier in POS (since it only requires a large amount of money) than it is in POW (since it requires a large amount of scarce hardware to be assembled secretly and come online at exactly the same time).

[GhostPlayer]

 Down price is peanut sales!!

[dstorm]

The following p2pools are on the wrong share-chain. There are probably more pools that I have not found yet.

http://69.164.207.41:7903/static/
http://64.231.8.35:7903/static/
http://62.210.178.13:7903/static/
http://109.74.203.79:7903/static/
http://95.85.9.5:7903/static/
http://23.92.31.161:7903/static/
http://212.83.168.86:7903/static/
http://5.135.161.150:7903/static/
http://192.99.3.15:7903/static/
https://www.crypthash.fr/p2p_dark/static/
http://202.171.65.10:7903/static/
http://p2poolcoin.com:7903/static/
http://ca.p2poolcoin.com:7903/static/
http://85.25.194.238:7903/static/
http://157.56.161.215:7903/static/
http://p2pool.e-pool.net:7903/static/
http://drk.mynetfixes.com:7903/static/
http://p2phash.com:7903/static/

You need to update the wallet and p2pool code. Delete the "data" directory and restart the pool to get the correct chain.