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[GhostPlayer]

As a merchant and a soon to be exchange operator Monero's bloat problems are massive issues. If it ever reaches mass adoption I will have to dedicate extra hardware and bandwidth for their blockchain or resort to using a centralized blockchain which defeats a lot of the advantages in my opinion.

The bloat is caused by dust transactions, recently a upgrade was made for pools to stop dust transactions.

AKA problem is solved.

Even then, Ring Signature anonymity is Much much better than coinjoin/masternode anonymity..

How can you be so certain, considering Evan hasn't announced all the details on RC4? Monero also uses a lot of computer resources, and it's uncertain whether it can scale. It's a very new technology, so you'd have to be naive to say it's perfect. Monero won't be anywhere near complete for 6 months minimum. Likely closer to a year.

Are you being serious..?

RC3 failed 2 times, RC4 at this rate might not come out until November for all we know..Ring Signatures isnt new, it's been around for 2 years on the premined coin, Bytecoin... lol! However, what Evan is trying to do is Very new, and Darkcoin might be the one taking a year to have "anonymity" through the use of masternodes/coinjoin.

To each their own. If you can't see that Monero is FAR behind, I don't think you're technically literate.

You're not making any sense...

Darkcoin has yet to deliver anonymity...
Darkcoin's RC3 failed 2 times and forked..
Darkcoin's coinjoin isn't anonymous...

Monero already delivers anonymity

Who's technially illiterate now..?

You are.

Darkcoin is anonymous right here, right now. (just not masternode payments, which have zero to do with anonymity)
Darkcoin HAS FAILED 1x and forked, the second was not a fork, was a pull back from the Dev to avoid excessive orphaned blocks.
Darkcoin has base code shared with coinjoin, but is nothing to do with coinjoin. Get your facts straight

I do not know about Monero enough to talk about it, so I dont talk about it. See the difference here?

You should stop making a fool of yourself. Did you not listen to Julio just now?

Just in case you missed him

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[Brilliantrocket]

Sigh..arguing with idiots. Litecoin was forked from Bitcoin making Dark's code 4-5 years old. Bytecoin had near 0 activity for 2 years. Bitcoin was actively being improved for those 4-5 years. So it isn't equivalent.

Again, you're plain old Lying.

Bytecoin was activiely mined for 2 years by those who knew about it, and has been improved upon since being released to the general public(go read the Bytecoin thread Please..) much more than Bitcoin and it's clones, and go check Bytecoin's blockchain yourself.

You said it yourself, Darkcoin's code is 4-5 years old, Monero's is only 2 years old, and it's codebase has since changed drastically in the last few weeks, while Darkcoin's has remained the same...

There's been several months of improvement by a small team. If you think that gives anywhere near the same result as hundreds of people contributing over 4+ years, you're delusional. The reason it changed drastically is because it was full of bugs and utterly incomplete. That's not exactly a positive.

[darkota]

As a merchant and a soon to be exchange operator Monero's bloat problems are massive issues. If it ever reaches mass adoption I will have to dedicate extra hardware and bandwidth for their blockchain or resort to using a centralized blockchain which defeats a lot of the advantages in my opinion.

The bloat is caused by dust transactions, recently a upgrade was made for pools to stop dust transactions.

AKA problem is solved.

Even then, Ring Signature anonymity is Much much better than coinjoin/masternode anonymity..

How can you be so certain, considering Evan hasn't announced all the details on RC4? Monero also uses a lot of computer resources, and it's uncertain whether it can scale. It's a very new technology, so you'd have to be naive to say it's perfect. Monero won't be anywhere near complete for 6 months minimum. Likely closer to a year.

Are you being serious..?

RC3 failed 2 times, RC4 at this rate might not come out until November for all we know..Ring Signatures isnt new, it's been around for 2 years on the premined coin, Bytecoin... lol! However, what Evan is trying to do is Very new, and Darkcoin might be the one taking a year to have "anonymity" through the use of masternodes/coinjoin.

To each their own. If you can't see that Monero is FAR behind, I don't think you're technically literate.

You're not making any sense...

Darkcoin has yet to deliver anonymity...
Darkcoin's RC3 failed 2 times and forked..
Darkcoin's coinjoin isn't anonymous...

Monero already delivers anonymity

Who's technially illiterate now..?

You are.

Darkcoin is anonymous right here, right now. (just not masternode payments, which have zero to do with anonymity)
Darkcoin HAS FAILED 1x and forked, the second was not a fork, was a pull back from the Dev to avoid excessive orphaned blocks.
Darkcoin has base code shared with coinjoin, but is nothing to do with coinjoin. Get your facts straight

I do not know about Monero enough to talk about it, so I dont talk about it. See the difference here?

You should stop making a fool of yourself. Did you not listen to Julio just now?

Just in case you missed him

Darkcoin has failed twice when trying to do masternode payments
Darkcoin's darksend is coinjoin and can be traced
Darkcoin's codebase is a clone of Litecoins


I'm done here, and you're clearly lying. This is sad on your part.

[Brilliantrocket]

Ignore the guy, his stupidity is its own punishment.

[darkota]

Sigh..arguing with idiots. Litecoin was forked from Bitcoin making Dark's code 4-5 years old. Bytecoin had near 0 activity for 2 years. Bitcoin was actively being improved for those 4-5 years. So it isn't equivalent.

Again, you're plain old Lying.

Bytecoin was activiely mined for 2 years by those who knew about it, and has been improved upon since being released to the general public(go read the Bytecoin thread Please..) much more than Bitcoin and it's clones, and go check Bytecoin's blockchain yourself.

You said it yourself, Darkcoin's code is 4-5 years old, Monero's is only 2 years old, and it's codebase has since changed drastically in the last few weeks, while Darkcoin's has remained the same...

There's been several months of improvement by a small team. If you think that gives anywhere near the same result as hundreds of people contributing over 4+ years, you're delusional. The reason it changed drastically is because it was full of bugs and utterly incomplete. That's not exactly a positive.

You do realize that both code's are similar, except that Cryptonote coins is much more advanced than Bitcoin's. They don't fall prey to 51% attacks where a double spending is possible, such as Bitcoin's ghash scare last week. They also offer full anonymity, unlike any Bitcoin clones(darkcoin etc)

If you're happy with Darkcoin having a 50% instamine and a non-anonymous coinjoin method, then...all I can say is goodluck.

[chaeplin]

xc.. now mo??

[stilgars]

Sigh..arguing with idiots. Litecoin was forked from Bitcoin making Dark's code 4-5 years old. Bytecoin had near 0 activity for 2 years. Bitcoin was actively being improved for those 4-5 years. So it isn't equivalent.

Again, you're plain old Lying.

Bytecoin was activiely mined for 2 years by those who knew about it, and has been improved upon since being released to the general public(go read the Bytecoin thread Please..) much more than Bitcoin and it's clones, and go check Bytecoin's blockchain yourself.

You said it yourself, Darkcoin's code is 4-5 years old, Monero's is only 2 years old, and it's codebase has since changed drastically in the last few weeks, while Darkcoin's has remained the same...

There's been several months of improvement by a small team. If you think that gives anywhere near the same result as hundreds of people contributing over 4+ years, you're delusional. The reason it changed drastically is because it was full of bugs and utterly incomplete. That's not exactly a positive.

You do realize that both code's are similar, except that Cryptonote coins is much more advanced than Bitcoin's. They don't fall prey to 51% attacks where a double spending is possible, such as Bitcoin's ghash scare last week. They also offer full anonymity, unlike any Bitcoin clones(darkcoin etc)

If you're happy with Darkcoin having a 50% instamine and a non-anonymous coinjoin method, then...all I can say is goodluck.

There 3 guys in the dev team now by the way.
I think everyone took good note of your dislike of darkcoin by now, you could move trying to reanimate the monero thread, thanks.

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[GhostPlayer]

 It is actually quite a compliment to DRK to have so many FUDsters around. Anyone with half a brain will realize the merit of having so many trolls.

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I'm telling y'all, a well-curated ignore list is the best. Pages and pages of "This user is currently ignored." Makes it so much easier to find the relevant stuff!

[minersday]

Summer has come, the trolls are here! 

[salmion]

RC3 Relaunch Strategy and Testing:

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rc3-relaunch-strategy-and-testing.1482/

BUMP

[Minotaur26]

What applications do you think would be good for Darkcoin?

I was thinking Darkcoin would be great for online auctions of speciality products like high end coffee for example.  Geisha coffee can reach up to 350 USD/lb  we could market to coffee growers associations, etc.  This is just one example, I cant wait for the release of RC4 that is when the community can really show its strength by going out and promoting adoption in market segments that are currently outside the reach of any crypto-currency even Bitcoin, specially in B2B applications where anonymity in transactions is indispensable to protect competitive information. I advise people not to underestimate the power of this community there is really good organization and volunteer efforts happening over at Darkcointalk.org.  I feel we are right now in some sort of forced hiatus with regards to promotion until RC3 is implemented and really after the 10 DRK limit is raised we are going to start educating people and promoting adoption in a very professional way.  Do you have ideas about other applications we should include in our promotion efforts?

[salmion]

What applications do you think would be good for Darkcoin?

I was thinking Darkcoin would be great for online auctions of speciality products like high end coffee for example.  Geisha coffee can reach up to 350 USD/lb  we could market to coffee growers associations, etc.  This is just one example, I cant wait for the release of RC4 that is when the community can really show its strength by going out and promoting adoption in market segments that are currently outside the reach of any crypto-currency even Bitcoin, specially in B2B applications where anonymity in transactions is indispensable to protect competitive information. I advise people not to underestimate the power of this community there is really good organization and volunteer efforts happening over at Darkcointalk.org.  I feel we are right now in some sort of forced hiatus with regards to promotion until RC3 is implemented and really after the 10 DRK limit is raised we are going to start educating people and promoting adoption in a very professional way.  Do you have ideas about other applications we should include in our promotion efforts?

https://darkbids.com

Get friends who are curious about cryptos/DRK to sell stuff.. spread the word and help them get DRK without the scary buying btc process.

[HinnomTX]

I like DRK, XMR, and NXT. I also like to root for underdogs of underdogs, so I have a small bet on Boolberry (BBR). They have aliases for the long cryptonote addresses, as well as a GUI. They're still young, with a small coin count. Also, they're not listed on coinmarketcap yet so they are flying under the radar. Check them out when you get a moment.  

I have, but there is a Huge Huge problem with Boolberry. That's because they use the aglorithm Wild Keccak instead of Cryptonote. There is a private gpu miner for Wild Keccak, as users have been getting on average, 7,000 boolberry per day using the private gpu miner...I recently saw a 80,000 boolberry sell on Poloniex also..

AKA

Boolberry has been extremely instamined, most likely more than 50%.

This isn't a reason not to invest. All CPU-targeted coins like XMR are mined with huge botnets. That's every bit as ugly as private GPU mining.
Private mining software is what it is. I'm quite sure DRK was mined with private GPU software before public release. And, as we've now learned, the earliest versions of sph-sgminer weren't very efficient at X11. Who knows how long a more optimized version was being used privately? I will never attack someone for being clever enough to build their own mining software to gain an edge. That's part of what drives the cryptocurrency economy. BBR is still very young, and there's plenty of opportunity for someone to write a GPU implementation of wild keccak to steal back the private miner's edge.

[darkota]

I like DRK, XMR, and NXT. I also like to root for underdogs of underdogs, so I have a small bet on Boolberry (BBR). They have aliases for the long cryptonote addresses, as well as a GUI. They're still young, with a small coin count. Also, they're not listed on coinmarketcap yet so they are flying under the radar. Check them out when you get a moment.  

I have, but there is a Huge Huge problem with Boolberry. That's because they use the aglorithm Wild Keccak instead of Cryptonote. There is a private gpu miner for Wild Keccak, as users have been getting on average, 7,000 boolberry per day using the private gpu miner...I recently saw a 80,000 boolberry sell on Poloniex also..

AKA

Boolberry has been extremely instamined, most likely more than 50%.

This isn't a reason not to invest. All CPU-targeted coins like XMR are mined with huge botnets. That's every bit as ugly as private GPU mining.
Private mining software is what it is. I'm quite sure DRK was mined with private GPU software before public release. And, as we've now learned, the earliest versions of sph-sgminer weren't very efficient at X11. Who knows how long a more optimized version was being used privately? I will never attack someone for being clever enough to build their own mining software to gain an edge. That's part of what drives the cryptocurrency economy. BBR is still very young, and there's plenty of opportunity for someone to write a GPU implementation of wild keccak to steal back the private miner's edge.

Are you kidding me? You can't compare to Darkcoin's 50% instamine

Not to mention, Monero has a Open Source Gpu Miner, so you and your friends can mine with your GPU if you like.

Boolberry has a private gpu miner, which earns it's user 7,000 Boolberry a day on average AND it has Botnets.
I'm 100% sure Boolberry has a instamine worse than Darkcoin's 50%, probably a 60-70% instamine for Boolberry.
Even if the private gpu miner issue was fixed(it never will be since it's a private miner), a countless amount of Boolberry would have already been mined and in the hands of just a few people.

7,000 Boolberry mined by 1 person per day using the private gpu miner is around 15 Bitcoin per day for that person. I saw a 80,000 Boolberry sell order on Poloniex two days ago..

[sin242]

blah blah blah, i'm a dumb whore

I thought you were leaving....

[salmion]

shouty boring butthurt fud.

For anyone who'd like to read about Darkcoin including answers to most of the fud you hear against it read this at your leisure:
http://wiki.darkcoin.eu/wiki/FAQ

[GhostPlayer]

blah blah blah, i'm a dumb whore

I thought you were leaving....

Its also a good idea to not quote trolls. Quote them, but please do us the pleasantry of removing the text

[stilgars]

DarkCoin is now better distributed than most coins - specially shitcoins copycats - you are just an embarrassment for yourself  darkota
Just leave